One Design-Daggerboard problem
Patrice Boily
I bought this 1990 One Design (Mistral) and after racing with it about 5
times, I began to have a daggerboard problem: after sailing a while with
it retracted, when I push it down to go upwind, it sometimes goes down too
far, i. e. it almost gets out of the board through the bottom. It seems
the problem is that the red spring-buttom keeping it into place is not
strong enough. A number of other racers told me that this is a design
problem with the daggerboard, and that I just have to learn to live with
it. This seems a little odd considering the price of the board and the
fact that it is the next olympic baord. I can't imagine racers at the
olympics having to temporarilly stop sailing to fix their daggerboard.
Has anyone else had this problem? Any tips???
trevor
Lechner for the last games would pick a board with a crap dagger board
and mast track pedal ?
I don't sail an IMCO but I race against them at my sailing club. I think
that together with the foot pedel "falling over" they are all like this
I stand to be corrected though.
Is a 1990 IMCO competitive in a race board fleet or are you still new to
this madness?
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Pat J. Pinchera
Yes, we've all had this problem at one time or another. The new
IMCO's have an improved daggerboard cassette (box) that supposedly
doesn't let happen. What I've seen people do is put a type of 'stop' in
the daggerboard, like a wooden dowl through the board near the top so
that the daggerboard will only go so far into the well, then the wood
hits the deck of the board. There was some discussion at the
Tudor/Mistral Finals this past December as to whether this was class
legal or not. I believe it was voted in (maybe some other readers who
were there can confirm this?).
Anyway, this is good solution if you are good at fixing things. If you
are not, then get someone who is, because you are going to have to drill
into your daggerboard! A mistake can be very costly. :-)
With this fix in place, you can slam the board down, i.e. when you are
in a racing situation, and it will only go so far. Then when it comes
time to put it back up, you can easily do so because the board is NOT
buried in the well.
Pat
'P19'
P.S. Only 2 more weeks until the Mid-Winters. This weekend was a
'perfect' regatta weekend..... 0 to 5 knots both Saturday and Sunday,
and forecast for today (Monday) is North 20-25!! :-)
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>the daggerboard, like a wooden dowl through the board near the top so
>that the daggerboard will only go so far into the well, then the wood
>hits the deck of the board. There was some discussion at the
>Tudor/Mistral Finals this past December as to whether this was class
>legal or not.
pointing? If so, how does one weight the advantage/disadvantage?
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David C. Troup
>I don't sail an IMCO but I race against them at my sailing club. I think
>that together with the foot pedel "falling over" they are all like this
>
>I stand to be corrected though.
Didnt Mistral give out a larger pedal for the IMCO's so that they
would not 'fall over' (ie. retract) while racing/sailing? Though I own an
IMCO, I didnt install the larger pedal that came with
mine (actually, I lost it before I could install it!)
I dont have any problems with my daggerboard, and I've been quite
happy with the performance of the board. Thought I think the booms are for
crap, and we could loose that mast, but its not bad for a One Design.
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Pat J. Pinchera
> Didnt Mistral give out a larger pedal for the IMCO's so that they
>would not 'fall over' (ie. retract) while racing/sailing? Though I own an
>IMCO, I didnt install the larger pedal that came with
>mine (actually, I lost it before I could install it!)
They have a little red 'pedal cover' that sells for $2 that goes over
the black pedal and prevents the pedal from flipping back to flush with
the board. I simple, inexpensive, and ingeniuos solution.
Pat
'P19'
Pat J. Pinchera
> Curious: Does the dowl 'stop' reduce the amount of dagger to inhibit
>pointing? If so, how does one weight the advantage/disadvantage?
>
No. The dowl 'stop' is installed at the maximum daggerboard down
position. This way you get the same performance with the daggerboard as
was intended.
William Martinson
The pin in the daggerboard is a great fix, but you still have another
potential problem which is slop in the daggerboard well, which means
that the daggerboard is moving side to side.
Remove the gasket and take out the daggerboard cassette and put shims
in each side. Adhesive backed floor tile works very well as does
ding stick. The ideas is to narrow the daggerboard well.
Another tuning method is to stiffen the springs in the buttons of the
daggerboard. 1 or two pennies on each side usually works fine. Remove
the button that stops the movement of the board, a 1/2" socket works well
with a hammer, but be gentile and use a knife to pry apart the button.
Insert the pennies between the spring and the center spacer.
The result of the above is a stiffer moving daggerboard that does not
wobble, go too deep in the well and does not fall down when reaching
at high speeds through large chop.
Good Luck and keep sailing your One Design and look for ways to grow the
fleet.
Bill Martinson
US-940
Patrice Boily
: The pin in the daggerboard is a great fix, but you still have another
: potential problem which is slop in the daggerboard well, which means
: that the daggerboard is moving side to side.
: Remove the gasket and take out the daggerboard cassette and put shims
: in each side. Adhesive backed floor tile works very well as does
: ding stick. The ideas is to narrow the daggerboard well.
: Another tuning method is to stiffen the springs in the buttons of the
: daggerboard. 1 or two pennies on each side usually works fine. Remove
: the button that stops the movement of the board, a 1/2" socket works well
: with a hammer, but be gentile and use a knife to pry apart the button.
: Insert the pennies between the spring and the center spacer.
Are all these modifications "legal" in IMCO racing????
Does anyone know exactly what modifications can be made to the equipment:
I am particularly interest (on top of the dagerboard problem) in using the
new carbon mast, add-on adjustable down/outhaul that you put on the boom,
etc.
PaulMeesterSmith
(William Martinson) writes:
> The result of the above is a stiffer moving daggerboard that does not
> wobble, go too deep in the well and does not fall down when reaching
> at high speeds through large chop.
>
> Good Luck and keep sailing your One Design and look for ways to grow
> the
> fleet.
>
> Bill Martinson
> US-940
You do realise of course that all of the above is illegal and does
not comply with IMCO Class rules!!
So if all of you who plan to modify your board or indeed already have
done so send me your sail numbers I'll have a lot less to worry about
at the next International One-Design competition!
Thanks,
Paul Meester H-51.
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