Naish Global vs. Exo Wave
Florian Feuser
I am looking for a new light wind board and would like to hear from
people who've ridden the big Naish Global (98).
I would like to hear how it compares to the Exo Wave 95 and what the
useful sail range is. I am planning to use a 5.7 and 6.4 wave and
crossover (Kaos and Kult)
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florian - NY22
MoBay
wind.sh@dow
wrote:
>Where's Wardog when you need him????
>
He isn't hard to find.
M. Gunn
lurking wrote on 6/10/07 6:01 PM:
Probably harder to need.
mo
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Team Coyote
http://www.teamcoyote.net
Florian Feuser
> Probably harder to need.
Ouch.
I respect Wardog's opinion - he actually sails, doesn't he -, but I am
less than enthusiastic about certain products that he seems to believe in.
<cough>
Evo...
<cough>
I'd like to throw in another alternative... maybe someone here has
ridden any two of these boards and can illuminate:
2006 RRD Wave Cult 99
2006-2007 Exo Wave 95
2007 Naish Global Wave 98
This is for light wind (<18knots) side-onshore wave sailing (no Kona,
thanks - won't fit into my elevator).
M. Gunn
flo...@SPAMTRAPfunnygarbage.com wrote on 6/10/07 7:22 PM:
> M. Gunn wrote:
>
>> Probably harder to need.
>
> Ouch.
>
> I respect Wardog's opinion - he actually sails, doesn't he -, but I am
> less than enthusiastic about certain products that he seems to believe in.
Sorry 'bout that Florian (and anyone else offended.) A keyboard-kneejerk
response on my part.
I always assume that everyone posting here actually sails.
I might better have said, "I" don't need any vendor who has disrespected so
many here ( on recdot) who participate in the sport.
wind.sh@dow
wrote:
>A keyboard-kneejerk
>response on my part.
Typing with your knees again. I swear, I don't see how you Mac people
use those things. :)
Florian Feuser
> Sorry 'bout that Florian (and anyone else offended.) A keyboard-kneejerk
> response on my part.
>
Hey, I'm not offended - especially not on behalf of other people...
However, I am not sure if everyone here actually sails, but yes -
participate in the sport they do, these vendors.
;-)
Back on topic:
2006 RRD Wave Cult 99
2006-2007 Exo Wave 95
2007 Naish Global Wave 98
2007 Starboard Kombat 97
There's GOT to be someone with an opinion on these things.
Florian Feuser
>
> There's GOT to be someone with an opinion on these things.
>
I know Mickey F would have something to contribute...
wee...@aol.com
wrote:
LOL... Mike F is still going strong yapping about his marathon dawn
till dust sessions over at iWindsurf.com or as he says and I quote
"That's one great thing about the Gorge: It often blows from dawn 'til
dark, so the bigger problem here when it does blow is finding time to
sleep and eat. Getting on the water before 5 AM and sailing until well
after 9 PM with only food and potty breaks, then repeating until the
wind quits after one or six days doesn't leave much time for
festering."
Some things just never change.
shredulato
wrote:
> florian ,... i say my two bits i was in maui in the spring and tried out alot of wave /freeride boards some i liked more then others. I did not try the exact boards you mentioned and as such you may want to dismiss my comments outright. I did try the naish global wave the 87 , the starboard kombat 87and acid 86 the Jp freestyle wave 87
i own and sail at home an evo 92 .
i would say try to ride both and compare but you are probably in the
same boat as the rest of us and that not going to happen. As such i
write my comments.
Board tests quite frankly i find very interesting and as such
being in maui for two weeks was a good time to try different
kit ,compare , think about what i am sailing and how it feels in
comparison to the other gear ,and in the end get on something that
works for me. Throw out my mental opions on bad days where the wind
was scketchy or i was feeling burnt out.
But overall see how stuff works in good conditions and interestinly
see if a board live up to magazine expectations. The jp niash and
kombat were reviewed by windsurf magazine earlier that year.
Most days were 4.2 to 4.7 although some days i was on a 5.5 and it
was a day full of holes.
the boards i liked the best were the starboards the board i disliked
the most the naish..
the reason i wrote this note was that i was suprised how much i didnt
like it!!
When one rides certain brand names I believe it biases our views, well
i guess that really a no brianer. The naish name is no exception,
maybe i felt it would improve me as a sailor or it should have been
easy to ride. I ahve always felt it would be best if all testing in
mags were done with boards , sails masts were painted or covered up in
some way , all the same color , so then one cant infer something is
better or worse based on the brand . You definatly feel something
different before sailing a bic versus a naish!!.
But after sailing the global, for two days ( after a week of
getting dailed in on other more freeride orientated gear )i stared at
it on the beach looking at its rocker planshape etc etc tryign to
figure out what I was doing wrong . It has a very wave orientated
tail, a very narrow pin with little volume, but mid board moving to
the nose, the board seemed to flare into a more freestyle shape ie
wider with soft rails very disproportionate in comparison to a pure
wave.
Hey i am no naish team rider, i know "I" was doing something wrong . I
read windsurfing mags review of it and agreed with there comments they
stated ( and i paraphrase) the expert riders were the most apt to get
this platform to perform. Again i am no expert, and I could not do
it , i traded for the acid 87 but I wondered whether i was getting
into more of the same problem, not so. The acid as better on all
counts.
I have to say it gybed beautifully, waves were OK ........just ok.
The boards shape and bigger area up front and its nose seemed too wide
to turn easy, going down the line i really felt i had to bring waay
too much weight on the nose to get it to turn more like a freestyle
wave board or a crossover like the kombat and JP freestyle wave.
It did suck beam reaching and trying eake it back upwind even in
big gusts with a 4.2 and my 1956 lbs trying to eake everything out of
it . I changed my stance ,more front foot pressure, tried not to
pressure the rail too much, took a break moived the mast base ,i tried
alot and still dint like it.
. I will bet it was me, and some big changes in style or more time
on the water would make this board perform better. I just think
that the global compromised its wave ability for some performance in
other areas , but it fell down in those areas. It seemed much worse
all around then the all wave acid. Maybe if it lost a bit of length
and became more "evo "like it would solve some of the big nose
problems .
looking at naish's previous lineup, it seemed like the designer
at naish took the hybrid/wave stretched it longer into the global
wave. I dont the global wave concept works for the average joe
sailor . Chop some off the front and i bet it would feel more
balanced.
Again just my experience and of course my humble opinon. i say that
so i wont get flamed LOL
' shred
shredulato
> it
LOL
shred
Florian Feuser
That was exactly the info I was hoping for.
It sounds like you enjoy a deeper, more settled planing state of an
actual down the line wave board. On a 4.7 day in Maui, that's probably
what I would want, too.
I am looking for the most compact wave/crossover I can pop onto a plane
in 6.4 conditions, burn and turn in waves up to just overhead-high. When
it gets 5.0 or better, I'll be on my DTL board anyway. It needs just
enough buoyancy to float me (~190), but no more than neutral. I am now
sailing a Mistral Heat 90l in these conditions and would like a board
that feels a little shorter, lighter and just as turny, and has a little
more width around the mast track.
I liked the Exo when I tried it - I would have preferred more tail
rocker though.
Thanks again,