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Flat Noses: More Suseptable To Mast Hits?

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(PeteCresswell)

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Jun 29, 2008, 7:30:45 PM6/29/08
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The nose on my new board is cut off almost straight across-
little or no curvature.

viz:
http://tinyurl.com/6eogjd
http://tinyurl.com/6omowg

I'm no engineer, but somehow this looks a lot more vulnerable to
something like a baton fracture from a mast hit - especially from
a skinny. Rounded noses seem like they'd "slip the punch" to
some extent.

Anything to this, or am I just obsessing (again...)?
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PeteCresswell

Brian Sangeorzan

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Jun 29, 2008, 8:39:38 PM6/29/08
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Eva (boardlady) has complained about this, so your concerns are probably
valid. Many brands now offer a foam nose protector if your so inclined.
brian

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John I

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Jul 1, 2008, 6:32:21 AM7/1/08
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On Jun 29, 6:30 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> The nose on my new board is cut off almost straight across-
> little or no curvature.
>
> viz:http://tinyurl.com/6eogjdhttp://tinyurl.com/6omowg

>
> I'm no engineer, but somehow this looks a lot more vulnerable to
> something like a baton fracture from a mast hit - especially from
> a skinny. Rounded noses seem like they'd "slip the punch" to
> some extent.
>
> Anything to this, or am I just obsessing (again...)?
> --
> PeteCresswell

Yup, they are. The large amount of extra reinforcement to overcome
such a weakness would lead to a marked performance change. Nearly
every intermediate sailor I know who has a board like that has
recurring rhinoplasty repair syndrome. Yet, those type of boards are
"sizzled" into the unsuspecting market as never before. Eventually,
buyers will beware?

sm...@fit.edu

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Jul 1, 2008, 11:26:50 AM7/1/08
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Looks like splitting hairs to me. But one way to look at it would be
that there is less actual nose there for you to hit. And the square
nose looks like it's a fairly thick section (as compared to say those
old Bic Technos).

If you catapult hard into any nose, there's a pretty good chance it's
going to be damaged. If it's that much of a concern, put foam padding
on the nose and mast.

sm

On Jun 29, 7:30 pm, "(PeteCresswell)" <x...@y.Invalid> wrote:
> The nose on my new board is cut off almost straight across-
> little or no curvature.
>

> viz:http://tinyurl.com/6eogjdhttp://tinyurl.com/6omowg

Michael

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Jul 3, 2008, 7:13:16 AM7/3/08
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I own the JP 109 Freestyle, which has such a nose. I split it open
twice before opting for a protective plastic "nose cone" that can be
ordered from JP. Foam padding works, but the custom fitted piece
works just as well and looks better. If you click on the photo on
this blog page you can see the nose piece:
http://www.peconicpuffin.com/the_peconic_puffin/2006/12/board_names_par.html

On a conventionally shaped board, any mast hit is a glancing blow. On
a square nosed board the impact is "complete"...the nose of the board
brings the mast to a complete halt, so it is absorbing all of the
energy.

The good news is that the boards are wonderful to sail.

(PeteCresswell)

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Jul 4, 2008, 5:58:13 PM7/4/08
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Per Michael:

> I split it open
>twice before opting for a protective plastic "nose cone" that can be
>ordered from JP. Foam padding works,

I went with the foam as a stopgap - thinking how PO'd I'd be if I
broke the nose suspecting what I suspect...

But it's butt-ugly and slightly dysfunctional - so I'll probably
go with the "nose cone" if it seems to work.

Has your's taken any hits yet?

Do you notice the added swing weight?

Only reason I didn't go with it on day 1 is that Somebody Who
Knows opined that the mfr didn't put them on as part of the stock
board bco the handling implications of the added weight.

That and wondering if it could take a hit, crack the material
under the cover, open up a little seam in the adhesive, and suck
water anyhow - but without showing any symptoms until it's too
late
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PeteCresswell

Michael

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Jul 7, 2008, 8:00:43 AM7/7/08
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Pete, I've had the nose cone on for three and a half years...it's
probably taken a dozen hard hits during that time (no counting the
minor stuff) and everything is fine. There's no swing weight to
notice.

As far as concerns over a crack underneath the thing, all I can say is
3.5 years into it the board is doing just fine. When the time comes
to replace this board (which I currently have no plans of doing...I'm
very happy with it) if the next board I select has a squared nose,
I'll go for the nose protector at the outset if its offered.

I'd like to note that I've never dinged a board with a mast hit before
I bought this board...I've been windsurfing 16 years. The square
nose is definately a mixed bag.

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