fiberspar boom recall??
gt.gundlach
4 booms have broken in the same place -- connection at the boom head. I've
had two break within one year. These booms were only a few years old and
had moderate (great lakes) sailing. Looking at the aluminum connector, it
is obvious they have all been deteriorating over time. I thought carbon
meant carbon?
Has anyone else experienced similar breakage? I've got $900 in booms and
zero confidence that they will hold up.
I know they're out of warranty, but what's the deal fiberspar and Nevin
Sayre????
Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)
Most likely the problem is that you have the old head piece which has been
improved and is ALL carbon. They can fix and retrofit your old booms for like
$60. Pretty worth it when you consider that a new boom costs around $400.
Give them a call and I am sure you will be quite pleased.
gt.gundlach wrote:
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Marc Lefebvre (US-775)
Cape Cod Windsurfing Association
Gear: AHD/NeilPryde/Fiberspar/Finworks
Phone: (508)862-3282
Email: lefe...@ultranet.com
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Motto: "Windsurfing is life, the rest is just details!"
Jaime Torres
>
> You should probably contact Fiberspar/Nevin Sayre directly at: (508)291-2770.
> Most likely the problem is that you have the old head piece which has been
> improved and is ALL carbon. They can fix and retrofit your old booms for like
> $60. Pretty worth it when you consider that a new boom costs around $400.
> Give them a call and I am sure you will be quite pleased.
>
> gt.gundlach wrote:
>
> > What's the deal with fiberspar carbon booms. Among 3 sailors in our group
> > 4 booms have broken in the same place -- connection at the boom head. I've
> > had two break within one year. These booms were only a few years old and
> > had moderate (great lakes) sailing. Looking at the aluminum connector, it
> > is obvious they have all been deteriorating over time. I thought carbon
> > meant carbon?
> >
> > Has anyone else experienced similar breakage? I've got $900 in booms and
> > zero confidence that they will hold up.
> >
> > I know they're out of warranty, but what's the deal fiberspar and Nevin
> > Sayre????
>
> ---
> Marc Lefebvre (US-775)
Marc
The boom head is about $60 (thats cost), the labor to replace it is
another story. I hear that Fiberspar replaces the boom head for about $160.
BTW the retail price of new FS or NP all carbon boom is around $525
depending on the size
jaime
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Mike
carbon head retrofit kit. If you have a hacksaw and a flat surfac it is
an easy repair.
dcro...@us.ibm.com
I've been thinking about the carbon boom thing for quite a while. Here's my
problem: I keep bending aluminum Windsurfing Hawaii booms like they are soda
straws. It's mostly "pilot error" in the waves, but that's life. It's getting
annoying not to mention expensive. I figured that a carbon boom would do the
trick -- lighter/stronger and all that. I was thinking the Fiberspar "All
Carbon" model, but after seeing the various posts I'm not too confident that
these are really any better in terms of durability, just more expensive. The
weight/stiffness issue is nice, but we're talking wave sailing on the NorCal
coast, not slalom racing in the Bay - durability is the issue, not speed. I
know for a fact that "Fibersnap" is harder to deal with on a warranty claim
(they must have a lot of practice). People have suggested that Gulftech is
the way to go if you really want a durable carbon boom and a solid warranty.
What are other people's actual personal experiences?
Dave
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Has ANYONE snapped their new all-carbon booms?
Michael
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Alex Pang
>I've been thinking about the carbon boom thing for quite a while. Here's my
>problem: I keep bending aluminum Windsurfing Hawaii booms like they are soda
>straws. It's mostly "pilot error" in the waves, but that's life. It's getting
>annoying not to mention expensive. I figured that a carbon boom would do the
>trick -- lighter/stronger and all that. I was thinking the Fiberspar "All
>Carbon" model, but after seeing the various posts I'm not too confident that
i do a lot of those "pilot errors" too.
recently, bent the tail piece of my chinook all-aluminum booms
with my ribs. i'm glad it's not one of those all-carbon booms :-)
alex
Ray Lainey
other one has a slight bend in the arm about halfway down the arm. John Mic
owns one, his snapped for no apparent reason whilst sailing on flat water,
the other guy is still using his boom with the kink in it....... Neil Pryde
replaced John Mics' boom under warranty, no problem.... I hav'nt broken any
carbon booms yet, (touch wood ) and have not heard of anyone in my area that
uses them having any problems with the new all carbon ones..... Ray.
Vaughan James Sanders
<mtvne...@aol.com> writes
>
>Has ANYONE snapped their new all-carbon booms?
>
>
>Michael
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I had 3 of the early FS snap for no apparent reason in the space of
about a year.
The NP I have had since is over 2 years old
Jamie
Jamie Sanders
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Jaime Sanders replied:
>
>Has ANYONE snapped their new all-carbon booms? >
I had 3 of the early FS snap for no apparent reason in the space of
about a year.
The NP I have had since is over 2 years old>
I'm asking about Fiberspar's all-carbon booms, which they just introduced. Not
their old booms. I'm asking because it seems like all the discussion of
actually broken Fiberspars are their older booms. Also I've read here (some
time ago) that around 1995 Fiberspar was having a problem that they corrected.
So I'm wondering if the talk about "fibersnap" is relevant anymore? Me I own
two Fiberspar booms, a 1996 (which I've pounded on) and an all-carbon 1998, and
I've had no problems other than early grip wear on the 96.
Michael
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Patrick Schelauske
>I'm asking about Fiberspar's all-carbon booms, which they just introduced. Not
>their old booms. I'm asking because it seems like all the discussion of
>actually broken Fiberspars are their older booms. Also I've read here (some
>time ago) that around 1995 Fiberspar was having a problem that they corrected.
What do you mean with "corrected"?
Do you mean, they produce new typs and they do repair the old ones under full charge.
This is "corrected" or "correct" in your opinion?
> So I'm wondering if the talk about "fibersnap" is relevant anymore?
I dont now for the product. But i do think the behavior of the is relevant, even for
future problems.
Patrick "tired of beeing beta-tester, charged with high-end prices" Schelauske
Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775)
> In article <19981002134536...@ng67.aol.com>, MTVNewsGuy
> <mtvne...@aol.com> writes
> >
> >Has ANYONE snapped their new all-carbon booms?
> >
> >
> >Michael
> >US5613
>
> I had 3 of the early FS snap for no apparent reason in the space of
> about a year.
> The NP I have had since is over 2 years old
>
You may be interested to know this but Fiberspar makes ALL of Neil Pryde
booms and masts so the boom you are using is made by Fibespar. Thought
you would like to know that.
Also, the new booms from Fiberspar are ALL CARBON, the ones from the
past were actually part Carbon (arms) and part Aluminum/Plastic
(head/tail). As far as the All Carbon Booms I have had ZERO failure
since their introduction. However, I have NOT taken them out in extreme
wave sailing conditions that some of you are talking about. In those
conditions, ALL BETS OFF for any brand on the market!!
Vaughan James Sanders
<mtvne...@aol.com> writes
>
>Jaime Sanders replied:
>
>>
>>Has ANYONE snapped their new all-carbon booms? >
>
>about a year.
>The NP I have had since is over 2 years old>
>
>their old booms. I'm asking because it seems like all the discussion of
>actually broken Fiberspars are their older booms. Also I've read here (some
>time ago) that around 1995 Fiberspar was having a problem that they corrected.
>two Fiberspar booms, a 1996 (which I've pounded on) and an all-carbon 1998, and
>I've had no problems other than early grip wear on the 96.
>Michael
>US5613
Michael
The only difference between the early Fiberspars and the Neil Pryde is
the front end.
The FS seemed to get fatigued at the front end when sailed hard on close
chop. The NP shock absorber front end seems to have cured this.
I have a new carbon race NP 200 t0 246, but I believe although changed,
the FS version still has a different front end. I have not heard that
the new FS are any more likely to break than the NP. By the way I hear
that the price of NP carbon booms are to go in the UK from 299ps to
380ps I should imagine this applies to FS as well. What’s happening in
the US
Vaughan James Sanders
<lefe...@ultranet.com> writes
>Vaughan James Sanders wrote:
>
>> In article <19981002134536...@ng67.aol.com>, MTVNewsGuy
>> <mtvne...@aol.com> writes
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >US5613
>>
>> I had 3 of the early FS snap for no apparent reason in the space of
>> about a year.
>> The NP I have had since is over 2 years old
>>
>
>booms and masts so the boom you are using is made by Fibespar. Thought
>you would like to know that.
>Marc Lefebvre (US-775)
>Cape Cod Windsurfing Association
Sorry, thought that was well known.
Jaime Torres
>
> The FS seemed to get fatigued at the front end when sailed hard on close
> chop. The NP shock absorber front end seems to have cured this.
> I have a new carbon race NP 200 t0 246, but I believe although changed,
> the FS version still has a different front end. I have not heard that
> the new FS are any more likely to break than the NP. By the way I hear
> that the price of NP carbon booms are to go in the UK from 299ps to
> 380ps I should imagine this applies to FS as well. What’s happening in
> the US
>
> Jamie Sanders
The new FS all carbon front end is the exact same as the NP all carbon
front end.
Re the price increase. FS decided that it was time to get what the booms
are worth.
Jonathan M Richardson
: Re the price increase. FS decided that it was time to get what the booms
: are worth.
I think that Fiberspar has opened up a market opportunity with its
current pricing. It seems that they have gone way too high! You can
buy a decent bicycle for what they want for a boom. Actually you can
buy two decent bicycles for what they want for a boom and
mast. Myself, I have been reevaluating the other booms on the market
including the aluminum Chinooks that have great adjustability and cost
less than $200.
-Jonathan (US233)
Don Fukushima
current all carbon units, did SNAP. Until this year, I consistently broke
two or three sets of booms at the head each season. I broke one early this
year but it was the older kind. The two new booms (all carbon) have not
broken this season.
I know of two sets of all carbon booms breaking this year. One broke at the
head, the other in the rear. I did see a third set getting stress factures
in the head but it had not broken off yet.
Overall, my own experience here in the Bay is the all carbon heads are far
stronger than any other in the past.
Marc A. Lefebvre (US-775) wrote in message
<3618CFC0...@ultranet.com>...
>Vaughan James Sanders wrote:
>
>> In article <19981002134536...@ng67.aol.com>, MTVNewsGuy
>> <mtvne...@aol.com> writes
>> >
>> >Has ANYONE snapped their new all-carbon booms?
>> >
>> >
>> >Michael
>> >US5613
>>
>> I had 3 of the early FS snap for no apparent reason in the space of
>> about a year.
>> The NP I have had since is over 2 years old
>>
>
>You may be interested to know this but Fiberspar makes ALL of Neil Pryde
>booms and masts so the boom you are using is made by Fibespar. Thought
>you would like to know that.
>
>Also, the new booms from Fiberspar are ALL CARBON, the ones from the
>past were actually part Carbon (arms) and part Aluminum/Plastic
>(head/tail). As far as the All Carbon Booms I have had ZERO failure
>since their introduction. However, I have NOT taken them out in extreme
>wave sailing conditions that some of you are talking about. In those
>conditions, ALL BETS OFF for any brand on the market!!
>
>---
>Marc Lefebvre (US-775)
>Cape Cod Windsurfing Association
MTVNewsGuy
Jonathan wrote:
<<I have been reevaluating the other booms on the market
including the aluminum Chinooks that have great adjustability and cost
less than $200.>>
I own a small and a large Chinook boom. I'd never use anything else for my
4.3, but rigging a 7.5 on a Chinook compared to a Fiberspar is no contest...the
Fiberspar blows the Chinook away.
Michael
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