F2 Axxis 260 vs. Sputnik 265
Robert Prevett
So, I would like some opinions about what board to go with for choppy Bay sailing. My impression of the Sputnik 265 was that it was really fast and handled the mild chop OK. For the Axxis 260, it didn't seem as fast, but seemed easier to drive around in the mild chop.
I have heard that the no-nose designs (like the Sputnik 265) are really meant to be fast slalom boards that are more at home in flatter water speed sailing conditions; and the conventional "cigar" shaped slalom boards are better suited for choppy/wavey conditions.
Any opinions about this?
Tnx
BobP
Stig Johansen
|> I had a chance to demo the F2 Axxis 260 and Sputnik 265 Jump Jibe on Sunday at the Candlestick Demo (San Fran Bay). The type of board that I am looking for is one that would be well suited for choppy SF Bay conditions (3rd Ave/Coyote Pt.) and 4.0 to 5.5m|> 2 winds. Ideally, I would have preferred to demo these boards under conditions more similar to my usual sailing spots. However, the Candlestick sailing area is relatively flat (mostly 1ft chop, some 2ft).
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|> So, I would like some opinions about what board to go with for choppy Bay sailing. My impression of the Sputnik 265 was that it was really fast and handled the mild chop OK. For the Axxis 260, it didn't seem as fast, but seemed easier to drive around in|> the mild chop.
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|> I have heard that the no-nose designs (like the Sputnik 265) are really meant to be fast slalom boards that are more at home in flatter water speed sailing conditions; and the conventional "cigar" shaped slalom boards are better suited for choppy/wavey co|> nditions.
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|> Any opinions about this?
|>
strong wind slalom boards ever made, but it also handles wave sailing in moderate
waves (less than 3 meters). I simply love the 265 and have no problems
reccommending it for smaller sails than 5.5 (5.7). I havent tried the Axxis.
Arctic Surf Bums:-)
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Colas Nahaboo
|> I have heard that the no-nose designs (like the Sputnik 265) are really
>meant to be fast slalom boards that are more at home in flatter water
>speed sailing conditions; and the conventional "cigar" shaped slalom
>boards are better suited for choppy/wavey co|> nditions.
on the opposite, no-nose boards are as fast as old boards on flat water
but they really shines in chop and waves. They are not good when going slow
however (pointing very high, keeping speed out of jibes, finding its
balance out of a plane).
Take a no-nose in harsh chop, bear off, sheet in, and you wont beleive it!
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Stig Johansen
|> co...@crios.inria.fr (Colas Nahaboo) writes:
|>
|> >Take a no-nose in harsh chop, bear off, sheet in, and you wont beleive it!
|>
|> cup pros like Phil McGain (2nd last year in course racing)
|> and Bruce Wylie don't even use no-nose slalom boards. These
|> guys find them too hard to jibe. Of course, they (Phil they Bruce) sail really
|> fast and powered up. The virtue of the F2 265 is that it's
|> fast when you're not real powered up.
|>
|> K Winner
Not to forget Robby Naish. He uses conventional boards and A WAIST HARNESS!
I have great respect for Robby, but wouldn't go back to neither waist harness
nor conventional boards, even if he sails fast.
The clew might be to stay with the equipment you know best, instead of changing
to something new that takes time to get used to. Especially when you are among
the best sailors it makes no sense to risk bad results by changing to new
equipment. Some are willing to take that risk and they sail fast to, so I guess
it's a matter of belief (or should we say religion).
The point I try to make is that no-nose works great for me, and many other
sailors. But conventional boards are still competitive in the hands of a good
sailor. No-nose might be just another jippo, like cut-away and slotted slalom
fins. But as I said: it works great for me!
The most important aspect is to sail, sail, and sail some more! That's what
makes you good, not the difference between no-nose and conventional boards.
Still I believe that no-nose is faster and easier to jibe in rough chop, and
that it's more efficient than conventional boards. Call me religious:-)
kwinner on BIX
>Take a no-nose in harsh chop, bear off, sheet in, and you wont beleive it!
You no-nose fans should know that a number of hard-core world
Colas Nahaboo
writes:
|> >Take a no-nose in harsh chop, bear off, sheet in, and you wont beleive it!
|>
|> You no-nose fans should know that a number of hard-core world
|> cup pros
Well, I was speaking of production no-nose (my tiga 284), which is MUCH
less extreme than some World Cup prototypes I have seen which wre
ridiculous. I think production no-nose are not what these WC racers would
call no-nose, which means also a drastic volume and width reduction for
them.
PS: I use my tiga 284 a as light-wind wave board, does frontside surfing
perfectly for my 200 lbs :-)
Bob Galvan
That's what I've found with my Protech 8'9". It's not hard to get it
around, it just falls off a plane very easily. I have to be super
careful about footplacement and timing the sailflip in order to maintain
speed. But this is a very narrow board, and the wide point is more
forward than other nonoses...
OTOH, my new ASD wave enduro 8'2" I can jibe it no problem, right out of the
box. The wide point is aft.
Bob Galvan
kasp...@crl.com