Question about Used Board
Andrew and Alyson Chalnick
Lucia and spent twelve straight days windsurfing - I'm hooked and am looking
to buy equipment. A neighbor has a used board -- it's called a "Masterclass
Sailboard" and is 335 cm. It has foot straps and a centerboard. He wants
$400 for the board, sail and rig which seems to me like a great price. Does
anyone know anything about this board? Is it worthwhile to buy this setup,
or should I just invest in new stuff? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanx.
MTVNewsGuy
Congratulations on your great trip! As for the gear, do you know who the
manufacturer is? It sounds quite old, which could present a number of
problems. One is that many of the big old boards that are available
inexpensively are former race boards that are not suitable for beginners. Same
for the rigs. Now that you've had a great introduction to the sport, you
should get gear that will help you progress. For $400 I would hope you could
get something made in the early 90's. Certainly you want to make sure you have
a clamp on boom and battens in your sail.
Where do you live? Where will you be sailing? Is there a shop near you to
check out for used consignment gear?
Michael
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Peter Burnham
It was reasonable at that time with it's "Lipsticks" adjustable mast track
and aluminium dagger board but is well dated.
IMHO it's overpriced. It may provide some fun over the summer but if you get
into the sport you'll want something more modern and you'll be lucky to get
anything for the old Sailboard. On that basis I'd offer the vendor $100 to
get it out their way. Better still put your $100 to something more modern.
The company "Sailboard" were one of the pioneers in mass producing boards
but went bust in the late 80's. The 335's hull is ok to learn on if you're
not too heavy, likewise the sail if it's not falling apart. However, the
boom (if original) will be a tie-on (inhaul) type and by later standards
inconvenient to use, modern booms have mechanical clamps to fit them to the
mast making fitting and adjustment easy. If you can, go somewhere to try
modern stuff, early 90's onward. Happy sailing, Pete.
Weed Fin
Sailboard" and is 335 cm. It has foot straps and a centerboard.>>
This board is a Sailboard Masterclass 335. I think this board came out around
1986, give or take a year. I would pay no more than $50 bucks for the board.
Laurence
for the windbreak. Sailboard were a good manufacturer in their day
(German) but for $400 you must be able to do better.
Weed Fin wrote in message <19990701160855...@ng-fx1.aol.com>...
Alan Sandoval
Andrew and Alyson Chalnick wrote:
>
> Hello all - I am new to this board and sport. I just returned from Saint
> Lucia and spent twelve straight days windsurfing - I'm hooked and am looking
> to buy equipment. A neighbor has a used board -- it's called a "Masterclass
> Sailboard" and is 335 cm. It has foot straps and a centerboard. He wants
> $400 for the board, sail and rig which seems to me like a great price. Does
> anyone know anything about this board? Is it worthwhile to buy this setup,
b...@spam_sync.com
> Hello all - I am new to this board and sport. I just returned from
> Saint Lucia and spent twelve straight days windsurfing - I'm hooked
> and am looking to buy equipment. A neighbor has a used board -- it's
> called a "Masterclass Sailboard" and is 335 cm. It has foot straps
> and a centerboard. He wants $400 for the board, sail and rig which
> seems to me like a great price. Does anyone know anything about this
> board? Is it worthwhile to buy this setup, or should I just invest in
> new stuff? Any help would be appreciated. Thanx.
Never heard of it. It's probably quite old and I assume that the rest of
the rig is ancient too. $400 is way to much, in my opinion. Maybe
$50-$100. (Chances are his wife's been bugging him to throw it out
already). But you'll probably have a dandy of a time trying to find
replacement parts and ancient equipment (more than 8 years old)
generally doesn't sail/feel as nice as more recent gear. A complete used
setup which is a few years old may go for around $500-$800 but you will
probably be able to find parts and/or add-on to it without much problem.
It may not be as fast as the newest technology but will have a good feel
to it and even after you move to short boards you could still use it
(without embarrassment) on a light wind day.
Do you live in a windy area? How well have you progressed in St. Lucia?
Is there a rental place available to you? How much do you weigh? These
are all factors which would give me (and others) a clue as to what might
possibly be good for you.
Ben
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Andrew and Alyson Chalnick
OK, I'm convinced that I should get something else. For all those who
offered their help, I'm about 230 pounds, six feet tall. At the end of my
St. Lucia trip I was able to sail consistently in fairly gust winds with a
5.3 sail and a board from mistral that was 330 cm (and described to me as
pretty fast). I can tack and sometimes jibe. I've read in various places
on the net that the only truly all around board is a long "race" board?
But, some people on this group have suggested a shorter board? What are the
advantages of a shorter board over a race board? Does anyone have
suggestions as to particular boards that perform well and are reasonably
priced? (BTW - is it worthwhile to at least buy the sail from the guy - I
don't know what he'll want - it's a 6.0 sail from Neil Pryde. He's been
using it with a "clamp-on" boom which I gather he added to the original
boom).
QriusGrge
>advantages of a shorter board over a race board? Does anyone have
>suggestions as to particular boards that perform well and are reasonably
>priced? (BTW - is it worthwhile to at least buy the sail from the guy - I
>don't know what he'll want - it's a 6.0 sail from Neil Pryde. He's been
>using it with a "clamp-on" boom which I gather he added to the original
>boom).
These are some basic rules about a shorter board:
Pros: lighter, easier to transport, simpler, faster in higher winds, more
sensitive to foot steering,
Cons: less flotation, slower in light winds, can't go upwind as well as a
longboard with a centerboard, less stable in light winds(there are exeptions
now with ultra-wide shorter boards).
You are a big guy, I would go with a longboard until you can at least
waterstart.
A board that would BARELY keep you above water would be about 110 liters so I
would stay away from any board (for now) that's under 200 liters in volume.
About the sail: find out what year, model, and condition the sail is. Sail
design made huge strides around 93-94 so if it's older than that, it might be a
good idea to shop around for some newer (but used if you're worried about
trashing a brand new sail) sails. The boom may be not be appropriate for
someone as heavy as you. If it's a very short boom at full extension(most
adjust in length) for that 6.0, than it may bend or outright break if you're in
high winds----just a precaution, find out the year, model, and condition of
that boom (if there's a lot of wear and tear, you may want to steer clear).
b...@spam_sync.com
wrote:
> This newsgroup is terrific! Thank you all for the responses.
>
> OK, I'm convinced that I should get something else. For all those who
> offered their help, I'm about 230 pounds, six feet tall. At the end
> of my St. Lucia trip I was able to sail consistently in fairly gust
> winds with a 5.3 sail and a board from mistral that was 330 cm (and
> described to me as pretty fast). I can tack and sometimes jibe. I've
> read in various places on the net that the only truly all around
board > is a long "race" board? But, some people on this group have
board over a > race board? Does anyone have suggestions as to
particular boards that > perform well and are reasonably priced? (BTW
- is it worthwhile to at > least buy the sail from the guy - I don't
know what he'll want - it's > a 6.0 sail from Neil Pryde. He's been
using it with a "clamp-on" boom > which I gather he added to the
original boom).
Andrew,
You didn't mention how windy it is where you will be going sailing and
this is a significant factor for sail size. At 230lbs, I think a long
board will be the best choice and (assuming Summer winds of 15mph and
under) a 7.0 sail might be good for a beginner who has already
developed board feel. I would not recommend a shorter board at this
time. A beginner needs a floaty board and one's weight determines what
will be floaty and what won't. I think that at 230 lbs, a longboard
will be an integral part of your sailing (unless you live at some very
windy location) and would recommend a better (faster) longboard such as
a used Mistral Equipe or Fanatic CAT.
Also be sure to purchase a PFD (life jacket). Keep it fun and safe.
Ben
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WINDSUMIKE
Good advice so far, a race board is the way to go for now.
Mega Cat = delicate
Ultra Cat = solid
Lightning WCR = very solid
Equipe XR = delicate
Equipe any other = solid
I've a Mega Cat and a Lightning!
Mike K445
Andrew and Alyson Chalnick
newsgroup how it turns out, Andrew.
P.S. If anyone has any other tips please email them directly to me
(and...@chalnick.net) as I'll be gone for a week and won't be able to
monitor this newsgroup. Thanx again.