Tiga Wave Vs. AHD"s Swell City.
Roy Gat
I have been trying to make up my mind about those two for - what seems to be-
a >very< long time, so I thought I'd consult here. I know there was some
pretty extensive discussion here on AHD's but I missed it :{
First the basics:
Tiga:
8'5", 84L, 16 lbs, 22", triple concave, Duratene, 799$ hull.
Swell City:
8'3", 80L, 16 lbs, 21", dunno, carbon composite, 875$ hull.
Some "facts":
1. I only hear good things about the Tiga except for one friend who sold it.
2. A sales guy at Sailways told me he doesnt like the AHD and is selling it
because it not durable and it has only a 6 month warranty
and the foot strap placement is funky (?).
Some "real" facts:
I need a 25knot+ board because thats when my Fanatic Boa (8'10",95L-but has
significant quantities of water in it :( )
starts to lose touch with reality so to speak. Conditions here on lake Eerie
when the wind is 25+ vary between 2 ft really messed up chop to 14 ft swells.
(how big is the chop in the Gorge?? - I've never been there.)
And I'm 155lbs btw.
Any half reasonable comments much appreciated.
(any totally reasonable comments will be summarily ignored).
-Roy.
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*Real men do it in their dry suits.*
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P.S. I like that British fellow's idea of signaturing with the boards
you own, that way everybody knows just what kind of a windsurfer you are.
-Fanatic Ultra Boa, Rocket 88
PPS. Rocket 88 for SALE. Bulllet proof short wave board, 8"11', 95L, thrusters,
spare parts and non-skid with mast, boom and sail, 300$ OBO.
Colas Nahaboo
g...@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Roy Gat) writes:
> Tiga:
> 8'5", 84L, 16 lbs, 22", triple concave, Duratene, 799$ hull.
The 91 line has two tiga wave boards: one at 2m50/80l for high winds, the other
at 2m57/85l for low winds. Both are reported to be excellent in waves. Here in
France Tiga Wave boards have a great deal of success. You may want to
investigate both models. (if it means something, I looked at at recent test on
wave sails in a french magazines, and they conducted the test on the same board,
a tiga wave 257, preferring it to F2, fanatic and bic wave boards).
It may not be the ideal board for chop, however.
> P.S. I like that British fellow's idea of signaturing with the boards
> you own, that way everybody knows just what kind of a windsurfer you are.
8'0" (2m43) custom wave board (Swell Expression by marco copello)
Eagerly waiting for my 2.55 epoxy sandwich wave board by same shaper!
Steve Madere
|
| I have been trying to make up my mind about those two for - what seems
to be-
| a >very< long time, so I thought I'd consult here. I know there was
some
| pretty extensive discussion here on AHD's but I missed it :{
|
.
.
| 1. I only hear good things about the Tiga except for one friend who
sold it.
| 2. A sales guy at Sailways told me he doesnt like the AHD and is
selling it
| because it not durable and it has only a 6 month warranty
| and the foot strap placement is funky (?).
A couple of friends of mine each own an AHD SS 8-3 and they both love
them.
They have not done any wave sailing, mostly Corpus Christi and small
lakes.
One of these guys owns: HiPer Tech 9.0, Hi Tech 9.0, 2 speed needles.
He likes the AHD better than any of the others when he can use it.
It requires a fair amount of wind. However, he has no problem sailing
it with a Rushwind 5.7 sail. I would have thought that 5.7 was too much
sail
for such a small board but it works out quite well.
BTW I often surprise people when I tell them that I use a Waddell 6.9
on my Hi-Tech 9.0. I have to admit, it is kind of borderline.
Steve Madere
Hi-Tech 9.0 XTC 95l
st...@pkg.mcc.com
Bob Maccione
>
> 8'3", 80L, 16 lbs, 21", dunno, carbon composite, 875$ hull.
>
>Some "facts":
>
>2. A sales guy at Sailways told me he doesnt like the AHD and is selling it
>because it not durable and it has only a 6 month warranty
>and the foot strap placement is funky (?).
gee, the 'bic' dealer told me the same thing :-/
actually the AHD is getting pretty good reviews from the locals, i can carry
a 5.0 without too much trouble and it's pretty fast, personally though i'd
buy something like a 8'2 or 3 Shuler or other gorge custom, they really
handle the chop like a dream.
I think the 83 will hold up real well, just put jump pads on it if you're
getting higher than 20 or 30 feet and _don't land flat_...
>
>P.S. I like that British fellow's idea of signaturing with the boards
>you own, that way everybody knows just what kind of a windsurfer you are.
ok, Seatrend 124, Aloha 9'8, HiPerTech 9', Naish Wave 8'6, Aloha 8'7,
HiPerTech 8'6 SpeedNeedle, AHD 83
bob
Rolland Waters
>(how big is the chop in the Gorge?? - I've never been there.)
10' when you're on the beach, 6' when you're on the water... :-)
Rolland
David Ross Purdy
>actually the AHD is getting pretty good reviews from the locals, i can carry
>a 5.0 without too much trouble and it's pretty fast, personally though i'd
>buy something like a 8'2 or 3 Shuler or other gorge custom, they really
>handle the chop like a dream.
OK, I'll throw my $0.002 in. I had a chance to sail the AHD 83 in Corpus.
I agree with Bob it is fast and a lot of fun but didn't seem to handle the
chop like I expected or turn like a wave board. In fact I would call it
a miniature slalom board. Was wondering what owners thought of the board
and Bob summed up what I had been thinking, I will have to go down to the
local shaper, there's a few in California too, and see what they can make
for me.
>I think the 83 will hold up real well, just put jump pads
The AHD 83s I saw had integral pads. Is that and old or new feature?
Also, the boards had obviously seen some pretty good use and looked
fine except for some small cracks around the fin box.
David Purdy
8'-8" Bruce Jones
Tom Albertz
> 8'5", 84L, 16 lbs, 22", triple concave, Duratene, 799$ hull.
>
>Swell City:
> 8'3", 80L, 16 lbs, 21", dunno, carbon composite, 875$ hull.
I have sailed both - no I haven't. I sailed the Tiga 250 Wave. I
think the one you describe is the 257. And I think the AHD has a flat
bottom.
The Tiga 250 is very smooth and comfortable. The 257 is designed
for more marginal wave sailing. It is longer, wider and has more volume.
I sailed the Tiga 250 at the Gorge last summer and liked it alot.
I also used the AHD there. The AHD was faster, looser, lighter, trickier.
So I guess it depends on what you're looking for in a board. I don't
think you'd find the 250 too small. It works real well in 4.0 conditions
and probably in 4.5 conditions. Also a friend from Cal. used it on a
few runs and said it was born to fly.
AHD's do have a durability problem. I don't think a Tiga has ever
broke. (Duck from the flames.) Well I know the Carbon Tiga's have,
but the Duratene's are tough.
tom.
F2 Lightning, Priester 9-0, Tiga 260 (not yet), West Wind 280 (for sale).
nei...@ctl.co.nz
anyone. I sail it in both harbour chop and waves up to 2m in
4.5m to 3.5m conditions but have grovelled around in the surf with
a 5.4m up. There's no problem getting lots of air time , gybes
and turns tightly and easily.
I'd class it as user friendly, as it's forgiving. You can spend
more time looking for ramps than correcting spinout.
The main problem I had with the board was fin box.If you replaced the
tiga fin with a standed fin it stretch the fin box meaning
constant hassels packing the fin in. I also lost a fin.
I've solved the problem by removing the fin box and packing the out side
of the fin box as I refitted it. However in the 91 model the fin box has
been replaced with a normal custom finbox. This problem shouldn't effect you.
Secondly it heel dents easily. My board isn't to bad but sum I've seen
can get quit soft under the front pads. I know with someone who is experiment
hollow out under the pads and full with Fiber glass I think to give it
sum strength.
I know of no board braking tho.
Cheers Murray (Tigawave, Styrotec 9'1)
Kirk Lindstrom
> you own, that way everybody knows just what kind of a windsurfer you are.
Do you mean like the fellow that carries the 7'11" speed needle the roof of
his van yet sails his 12'6" Windsurfer hidden inside everywhere he sails? :-)
Actually, I like the idea too but we should also list the weight of the
sailor since a 150lb guy on a GS board can be a beginner while a 225lb guy
on the same board has to be pretty far along!
-Kirk out
9'9" Velocity, 8'8" Challange Flex & 11'6" Malibu: Rushwind Gorge Slalom quiver
sailor: 220lbs, 6'0"
Joanne Gerber
>> P.S. I like that British fellow's idea of signaturing with the boards
>> you own, that way everybody knows just what kind of a windsurfer you are.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Do you mean like the fellow that carries the 7'11" speed needle the roof of
>his van yet sails his 12'6" Windsurfer hidden inside everywhere he sails? :-)
>
>Actually, I like the idea too but we should also list the weight of the
>sailor since a 150lb guy on a GS board can be a beginner while a 225lb guy
>on the same board has to be pretty far along!
>
>-Kirk out
>9'9" Velocity, 8'8" Challange Flex & 11'6" Malibu: Rushwind Gorge Slalom quiver
>sailor: 220lbs, 6'0"
Sorry guys I just don't think that I'm about to put my weight in my
sig! Oh gosh but gee would you respect me more in the morning if I
said that I sail an 8'11''. Oh but never, never, without my Waddells! :)
Joanne.
Jim Munro x2497
>In article <431...@hpcc01.HP.COM> ki...@hpcc01.HP.COM (Kirk Lindstrom) writes:
>>> P.S. I like that British fellow's idea of signaturing with the boards
>>> you own, that way everybody knows just what kind of a windsurfer you are.
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Do you mean like the fellow that carries the 7'11" speed needle the roof of
>>his van yet sails his 12'6" Windsurfer hidden inside everywhere he sails? :-)
>>
I thought the whole point of .sigging with board types is to give an
indication of the 'type' of sailor you are, not how good you are, or]
how much money you've got. There are wave sailors, slalommers, course
racers, one-design adherents, etc... To a large extent, the type of
sailing you do is dictated by where you live.
So I'm a bit disappointed that the group is beginning to deteriorate
into a flame war when we all share a common interest.
For those who want to know what kind of a sailor I am.... well, I
am an enthusiastic sailor....how's that?
Jim Munro
Jonathan Hahn
> I thought the whole point of .sigging with board types is to give an
> indication of the 'type' of sailor you are, not how good you are, or]
> how much money you've got.
> So I'm a bit disappointed that the group is beginning to deteriorate
> into a flame war when we all share a common interest.
> Jim Munro
I hadn't noticed the board list in the .sig until someone complained
about it. Other than being informative, who cares? I think the person
who complained about it is overly self-conscious about the money end of
this sport. If the original board-lister does so only to impress,
that's his problem. If I had to choose, I much rather that people
include the lists than not because they tell you something about the
person (like perhaps that s/he has more money than sense).
Personally, I could buy all new, latest model equipment but I'm cheap
and I don't want to have to baby it, so I buy used.
-jon
1st time board list: old thrashed Mistral Diamond Head (9'?")
and an old thrashed Mistral Challenge Flex (8'8").
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