North Spectro
Andrews
I'm looking into buying a North Spectro cc1. Could anyone tell me
what year that sail is from. Thanks alot.
-dave
sailquik (Roger Jackson)
Andrews <and...@erols.com> wrote:
> I'm looking into buying a North Spectro cc1. Could anyone tell me
>what year that sail is from. Thanks alot.
-dave:
I think the cc1 is the color code. All Spectros form all years have
a cc1. on the bag.
If you tell us more about the sail,
ie size, number of camber inducers, recommended mast, and the data
off the card printed and placed in the sail bag pocket, I think we can
identify which year etc.
Does it say TX anywhere on the literature, also the printed card may
acyually give you the year model. I've had a buch of Spectros, and
have most of the old literature all the way back to about 93.
Hope this helps somehow!
Regards, Roger
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sailquik (Roger Jackson)
Sorry, group, I know a bit about sails. but can't type worth a darn.
Let's try this again!
I think the cc1 is the color code. All Spectros from all years have
a cc ? on the bag and the printed card in the pocket of the bag.
If you tell us more about the sail,
ie size, number of camber inducers, recommended mast, and the data
off the card in the sail bag pocket, I think we can identify which
year etc.
Does it say TX anywhere on the literature, also the printed card may
actually give you the year model. I've had a bunch of Spectros, and
have most of the old literature all the way back to about 93.
They really are great sails, midway between recreational, and racing
sails, kinda the best of both worlds. Even the older ones were very
very good if rigged on the correct mast.
ja...@velauno.com
Dear Andrews:
If you are in the market for North Spectro you should consider looking at
the Neil Pryde V8's. Although the Spectro (like most North products) is a
pretty good sail the V8 seems to offer more range and power for the
money. Several of my friends that owned Spectros purchased a bigger or
smaller V8 to complement their quivers. All of them ended up trading
their North Sails for the equivalent Neil Pryde. In any case, see if you
can try before you buy. Good Luck.
Jaime, PR 11
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Martyn Thompson
quality of a spectro is far better than a V8.
Jonathan M Richardson
ja...@velauno.com wrote:
: If you are in the market for North Spectro you should consider looking at
: the Neil Pryde V8's. Although the Spectro (like most North products) is a
: pretty good sail the V8 seems to offer more range and power for the
: money. Several of my friends that owned Spectros purchased a bigger or
: smaller V8 to complement their quivers. All of them ended up trading
: their North Sails for the equivalent Neil Pryde. In any case, see if you
: can try before you buy. Good Luck.
I have been told that the V8's are hard to rig. Is this true?
-Jonathan (US233)
Ja...@velauno.com
martin:
While I agree that the finish on the North sails is
of excellent quality there are many details which
put the V8 on top of the Spectro. Performance is
subjective but even you agree the V8 has better
low end.
As a sailmaker specializing in Windsurf sail
repair, I find that the unseen details definately
make the V8 a longer lasting sail. For example:
1. Seams- the V8 has few exposed seams while
the
Spectro has many. Those that are exposed are
built the same way as the North
2. The mast pocket- In the V8 the Center seam
is protected against chaffe from the mast. I have
never had to fix chaffe in a V8 sleeve. On the
North it is not and often in need of repair.
3. The bottom of the Mast pocket. The V8 has and
integrated protector.The spectro has webbing that
inebitably gets chewed by the mast and begins to
fall off after reasonable use.
4. The V8 has integrated sheaves at the tack
while the spectro does not.
5. The batten adjusters on the V8 are integrated
on the battens while the North needs a separate
tool.
There is more but you are probaly bored already!
jaime
Waubesa767
> have been told that the V8's are hard to rig. Is this true?
I have a few North Sails in my quiver. I thought all sails rigged about the
same until I started renting on vacation. I have yet to find a sail that rigs
as easily as a North. The Cam system is especially easy.
Dave
ja...@velauno.com
>
> I have been told that the V8's are hard to rig. Is this true?
>
> -Jonathan (US233)
The technique for rigging the V8 is different than the for rigging the
Spectro but once you get used to either one neither is particularly
difficult.
Jaime
Rick Collins
I thought I would look at Jaime's comments from the other side... I love my
North gear, and have tried other people's Pryde gear. Both are very good
to sail. Pick your gear and tune it to whatever style of sailing you want.
This article seems to be focussing on build quality..
Ja...@velauno.com wrote in article <875922...@dejanews.com>...
> martin:
> As a sailmaker specializing in Windsurf sail
> repair, I find that the unseen details definately
> make the V8 a longer lasting sail. For example:
> 1. Seams- the V8 has few exposed seams while
> the
> Spectro has many. Those that are exposed are
> built the same way as the North
Those seams saved the bottom panel from complete destruction when my wife
tried a lay-down gybe, putting her harness hook through the sail. If not
for extra seams, the panel would be completely gone.
There are many theories on how to incorporate shape in sails. Flat panels
are not inherently shaped. The number of seams required to deliver optimal
shape is beyond my knowledge.
> 2. The mast pocket- In the V8 the Center seam
> is protected against chaffe from the mast. I have
> never had to fix chaffe in a V8 sleeve. On the
> North it is not and often in need of repair.
In my comparisons, the luff sleeve on Pryde sails gets hacked and cut more
than on North. Maybe it is the people I sail with. None has required
repair due to losing stitching, only due to tearson rocks.
> 3. The bottom of the Mast pocket. The V8 has and
> integrated protector.The spectro has webbing that
> inebitably gets chewed by the mast and begins to
> fall off after reasonable use.
I fail to comprehend, as the Spectros have a built-in protector. The
bottom web is a tool to assist in tuning the sail. Never had mine chewed
up after a pryde (copy, from my earlier days) (but that is because I was
not rigging properly)
> 4. The V8 has integrated sheaves at the tack
> while the spectro does not.
I prefer a good hook, for quicker rigging. I don't have to swear if one
line goes the wrong way and cross-threads the entire affair.
> 5. The batten adjusters on the V8 are integrated
> on the battens while the North needs a separate
> tool.
The batten adjusters on the V8 are big and clunky. A separate tool is
often required to get them open. Neither need to be adjusted after they
are set properly, and the sail has "settled in".
> There is more but you are probaly bored already!
I was having fun for my lunch-break. The result is probably that you decide
what you value in a sail. The decision is influenced significantly by what
sales and service different brands have in your area. Then you can look at
how long it takes to rig those Neil Pryde sails.-)
Rick, but since the opinions do not reflect communications networks, Nortel
doesn't care.
Wolfram Pietzsch
I own four V8 sails in various sizes (from 5.0 to 7.5) and, sadly enough,
rigging any of them is no fun. My latest sail, the 1997 7.5 version, is a case
in point. Just to get the CK 75 4.90 mast all the way in gets me heavy
breathing. Then there is always that fear that one of the cambers pops off and I
have to start all over again (it happened all too often).
But I have worked out a routine, and with a lot of praying, manage to get the
thing rigged without swearing and cussing. The effort is well worth it once I
get on the water.
I still own the Prisma 5.5 version 1995, but it is now for sale. I have also
sailed Spectros (rental) of various sizes. The post 1996 versions of the Spectro
are allright, if a bit too flat and lacking in power.
Wolf
S1turner
In article <34398467...@nntp.hip.cam.org>, pie...@cam.org (Wolfram
Pietzsch) writes:
>Then there is always that fear that one of the cambers pops off and I
>have to start all over again (it happened all too often).
>
>
Wolf,
There are MANY NP V-8's sailing down here in the Tampa Bay area.... and I
don't know of anyone who cusses at rigging them. Try this if a cam pops
off during the rigging, as this DOES sometimes happen....! Without getting
into a rage, after the sail is on the mast and partially downhauled, just
outhaul it strongly, pop the errant cam back on, and continue rigging.
Worked for me every time...
Hope this helps.
SamTurner
Tampa,FL
Walter Clark
Yes, well I bet there are plenty of stories that go both ways.
For instance a couple we sail with occasionally were V8 owners for the last
few years. This year they traded their entire quiver for Spectro's. I
myself loved my old NP MKIII WC sails but ended up with North IQ for the
large sizes and custom JBD (sadly in retirement now) for the smaller.
Walter
ja...@velauno.com wrote in article <8758799...@dejanews.com>...
> Dear Andrews:
>
> If you are in the market for North Spectro you should consider looking at
> the Neil Pryde V8's. Although the Spectro (like most North products) is a
> pretty good sail the V8 seems to offer more range and power for the
> money. Several of my friends that owned Spectros purchased a bigger or
> smaller V8 to complement their quivers. All of them ended up trading
> their North Sails for the equivalent Neil Pryde. In any case, see if you
> can try before you buy. Good Luck.
>
> Jaime, PR 11
Elevaytor
North spectros and V8s are very similar in both performance, quality, and
value. If you are losing sleep over the details for these two excellent
sails, you're missing the point.