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Joe Lin

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Oct 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/4/98
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Hi,

Maybe there are ways that I can change my equipement to stop the
problem. But once I am on the water and I just can not stop the board
from going side way. Some guys told me to lift my back foot and press
harder on my front foot but it did not quite work. What can I do to stop
it? Thanks.

Joe


sail...@ameritel.net

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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> I just can not stop the board from going side way.

What can I do to stop it?

Joe:

What board, what size fin, what size and type of sail, how much wind?

It could be you have the rig and the fin mismatched, and are simply
overpowering the fin. Are you sailing in an area with weeds or eel grass?
Perhaps you need a weed fin. It could be you are using too much back foot
pressure for the size fin and speed you are going. Remember, a small fin
needs to have lots of speed before you can really load it up. You could have
a really poor fin. Have you tried other fins? Or it could be as simple as
leaving the gasket off the screw on a cavity fin (i.e. Powerbox, Trim box,
Tuttle box) If the fin can suck air down around the fin screw, then it will
seem to be "spun out" all the time. Another simple one, that get's most of us
at least once is leaving the fin cover on. Hope this helps!


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philo

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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Make sure your fin is big enough for your sail (your fin has to press back
against all the force your sail is making, if it`s too small it gets
overloaded and spins out). Most likely though it`s your technique. For me
the big discovery regarding spinout was that I would wimp out and unsheet
when about to hit some chop and end up spinning out. By staying sheeted in
and powered up the # of spinouts went way down.

Gleshna

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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>
>Maybe there are ways that I can change my equipement to stop the
>problem. But once I am on the water and I just can not stop the board
>from going side way. Some guys told me to lift my back foot and press
>harder on my front foot but it did not quite work. What can I do to stop
>it? Thanks.

My $.02:

1. If you are hitting chop and then getting a bit of air before spinning out,
then learn to absorb chop with knee bends. If you get air, you must land a
little bit down wind. If the nose goes upwind, you are in spin out mode.

2. If you are spinning out without chop hops, then as suggested you probably
need a bigger fin.

Luck,

Bob

Weed Fin

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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Bob suggest "Bigger Fin"

<<2. If you are spinning out without chop hops, then as suggested you probably
need a bigger fin.>>

I sail where there is a lot of weeds (Kalmus
Beach). Here is my set up.

8'10" Bump&Jump 5.3 to 4.7, 11" True
Ames Blade Weedfin.

8'2" Bump&Jump 4.2 & down 10" True
Ames Blade Weedfin (smaller/customed
made from True Ames). They don't make
them that small on a regular basis. Anyways
it stopped my spinout problem.

So I guess we need to know what size
sail and board he is using.

Ed D.

Ed D.

RedKen2

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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Roll you weight more upright and way forward this will get more weight to the
mast and make the board go down wind slightly the fin will then clear it's
self.

Ken Hartz

Mark Phillip

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Oct 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/9/98
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Joe Lin wrote:

> Hi,


>
> Maybe there are ways that I can change my equipement to stop the
> problem. But once I am on the water and I just can not stop the board
> from going side way. Some guys told me to lift my back foot and press
> harder on my front foot but it did not quite work. What can I do to stop
> it? Thanks.
>

> Joe

I heard everything but the right thing. For a rig where the board, sail,
and fin are at least roughly matched and properly rigged:
if you're sailing with the windward rail down, you will spin out when in
chop. Sail with the lured rail lower - point your back foot to keep it
there, your front foot
dragging the front of the board to windward. This will stop most
cavitation. Do this first and the techniques listed by others in this
thread will make some difference as well.
mp


Vaughan James Sanders

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Oct 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/9/98
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In article <361E290F...@ou.edu>, Mark Phillip
<mephillips...@ou.edu> writes

>
>
> This will stop most
>cavitation.

Mark

Cavitation is not the same as spin out. Cavitation was expected around
the 40 knot mark, but has not been experienced yet, on a fin.

Jamie

Jamie Sanders
Chalkwell Windsurfing Club
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Adam Dayman

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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I totally agree here with Mark, but the rig can be of a difference too if you
have a very bad match.
(weed can be of a factor too but I suppose you would have realised that!)
Happy sailing!

Mark Phillip wrote:

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Ken McCullagh

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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I've had spinout problems too, and posted a question here before, and asked
loads of ppl.
However I (think I ) cured it yesterday.

My spin out was coming from when I tried to drive upwind - I couldn't point
very high at all, it I was really getting pissed off. I even bought a new
skeg (although I didn't use it yet!).
It seems I wasn't closing the slot - I looked down yesterday and saw a big
gaping hole between my sail and my board. So I closed the slot, and could
point higher, and hence didn't have to "drive" the skeg, so there was less
pressure on the back foot, less pressure on the skeg and less spin out.

No-one had ever pointed out this as a solution before, so I thought I'd
throw it in - it may help.
Wind,
Ken


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Jim Titus

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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Mark Phillip wrote:
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>But once I am on the water ... I just can not stop
>
> Sail with the lured rail lover

...and she will make you forget about where you put your tail

Keith Meder

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Oct 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/13/98
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Joe, if it happens when the wind picks up and you are starting to get over
powered, you might try moving your harness lines back. You could be putting
to much pressure on your back foot trying to sheet-in using only your back
arm instead of your harness.
The easiest way to determine if you should move your lines back is to look
at where your back hand is as compared to where the back harness line
attaches to the boom. If there is a large gap you need to move the harness
line just inside where you are holding the boom when fully powered.
Once you do this you will see you can sail with a smaller fin and still not
spin out.
You might want to get Peter Hart's video "Speed with Style", in it he gives
all sorts of tips for tuning your rig and board in order to sail faster and
in more control.
Let me know if this helps.

Keith

rich

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Oct 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/16/98
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Sounds like a dum question but what type of fin are you using ? Depending on
the length of board your using, it may be a simple case of getting something
a little bigger with less sweep in order to get a better surface area/grip
ratio on the water. I had the same problem a few years back and this
definitley solved my problem.

Hope it helps.

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Dennis Rauln

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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To prevent spinout first, try a bigger fin. If you still keep spinning out,
when it does so, yank your back foot hard toward you. And when you are
sailing try not to be back foot heavy- keep your weight dispursed over both
feet.
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