F2 Ride 277
Amit Berger
MTVNewsGuy
For many people it's a wonderful board, including myself. Fast, turny, easy to
jibe, early to plane for its class, a great all around performer. I weigh 165
lbs and have sailed it in 5.0-7.5 conditions, prefer it for 5.5-7.0.
Also, I think its a better (certainly more playful and turnier) than the 2000
model Rides.
Michael
US5613
Jean-Charles van Zuylen
70Kg.
I use it in 4 - 7/8 Bft with sails from 4.7 to 7.9 and it's great. It's
really fast and even though I'm not a speed monger it is a lot more fun. I
feels light and gybes really nicely. With enough wind and the right sail it
goes upwind better than any freeride board I have ever tried even though I
only use a 31cm fin.
It's not that easy to sail for a freeride board. Its Achilles heel is chop
since it is so lively. It feels quite hard underfoot so you need to really
bend you knees. If you change the strap positions to wave it is much better.
It is like having two boards.
Great contstruction, really good components (the straps don't move and the
screws don't rust like on AHDs). You can play around with strap positions
without feeling like your damaging you board.
By the way, since buying the Ride 277, I bought a newer AHD board. I was
planning on selling the Ride and ended up selling the new one. You will most
likely not regret having bought this board.With an RAF Supersonic 6.0 in 5-6
Bft I am the happiest man alive!
I strongly advise you try the board out before you buy it. Buying a board
you don't like after sailing it three times is depressing and costly. Don't
make that mistake if you can avoid it. It's better to pay more for a new
board that you can try out in various conditions.
Jean-Charles
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Jonathan
wrote:
>I need good or bad feedback regurding the F2 Ride 277.
>
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I had one & sold it. I weigh 85kg, sailed it with a 7.0 and it wasn't
fun. In higher wind it would be nice but the range would be too
limited for me (5.0 to 6.0) and I would probably only get to use it 2
or 3 times a year. I believe the sail ranges you'll see listed for
this board are really for lightweights.
Jonathan
Brian Weekes
be good for flat out blasting and chop-didn't get on with it, found rails
caught on chop, didn't release early enough with 7m sail, and found it quite
a big board for me with regards using straps mounted inboard and bump n jump
style.
A friend of mine (also a small bloke) has the same probs and sold his too,
That said, I know a couple of guys who rave about their 277's (both somewhat
larger build).
Brian (UK)
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Michael Winter
haven't seen a board that I would rather have for this range for lake
sailing. With a small fin I can even sail a 4.0 on this board. I tried a
7.5 once, but felt the board was to small for a sail that big. When it is
solid 6.5 or better, the 277 really goes. It is as fast as racier boards
but turns like a dream. A great jumper too.
My .02
Matt
I weigh 175 lbs. The sweet spot for me is 6.0 sailing. I can have fun on
a 5.0 or a 7.5 however. (I use different fins for each, however.)
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Matt
Vitor S M Dias
well. I also use bigger fin for my 7.5.
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Endo
He's about 150lbs and says it bounces him around alot. He also
complained about not much float in the nose that makes tacking tricky.
He say he needs to be quick to not sink it.
He asked me to ask a couple of questions:
First, he said someone told him that it's a good idea to set the
footstraps in the slalom position in the front and the wave position
in the back. He does this now but wonders if it's the ideal way to go.
Does anyone else do this? What are the pros and cons?
Second, he's thinking of getting a new sail that will cover the large
end range for this board. Is 7.0 best or is 7.5 better? Any
recommendations on a good sail in this range for this board?
Endo
sailquik
> My friend bought one last year. He said it took some getting used to.
> He's about 150lbs and says it bounces him around alot.
Tell him to move the mast foot to about 3/4" from the very back of the]
mast slot. That was always the "sweet spot" on the 277 Ride I had.
It should get the board "skipping" very early, and provide a really
smooth fast ride.
If you go any further forward, you start putting rocker in the water and
the Ride begins "bucking" (over the chop oscillations).
I was about that weight when I sailed the 277 and it was really sweet
with 5.0-7.0 sails and worked great as a fast slalom board (foot straps
outboard front and rear, double rear straps and the stock 34 cm Rev.
Profile CW pointer.
For much looser B&J sailing and for jumping the 277 in general, I set
all the footstraps inboard, and used a single rear strap. The board
wasn't quite as fast, but with an 11" Rainbow "Rhino" fin it was plenty
fast and very loose.
> He also complained about not much float in the nose that makes tacking
> tricky.
Yes,but on a 100 liter shortboard, one usually steps OVER the highly
raked back mast,when changing sides during a tack, not "in front of" the
mast. And you need to do it quickly.
> He say he needs to be quick to not sink it.
Yep, but he needs to step over the mast. It's very difficult to do '
longboard (i.e. around the front of the mast foot) tacks on any
shortboard, and it gets more difficult and requires more speed as
the volume and width of the board get smaller.
> First, he said someone told him that it's a good idea to set the
> footstraps in the slalom position in the front and the wave position
> in the back. He does this now but wonders if it's the ideal way to go.
It might work, but I preferred either inboard front and back or outboard
front and back. Slalom sailing on fairly flat water can be faster and
little chop hops are not a problem with the foot straps outboard, but
for bumpier conditions, and bigger jumps, I didn't like landing with
my feet that far off center. It seemed to cause alot of spin outs
on landing. The board jumped a whole lot better with the small curvy
fin and the straps set inboard, for me anyway.
> Second, he's thinking of getting a new sail that will cover the large
> end range for this board. Is 7.0 best or is 7.5 better? Any
> recommendations on a good sail in this range for this board?
Some folks do fine with a 7.5 m2 on the 277, but I always preferred a
7.0. If I wanted to sail in 7.5 conditions, the 285 Thommen I had was
amuch better match for the 7.5. 7.0- 5.0 is the "best" range IMHO for
the 277.
Hope this helps,
Roger
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Before you buy.
Wolfgang Soergel
>
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> > He also complained about not much float in the nose that makes tacking
> > tricky.
> Yes,but on a 100 liter shortboard, one usually steps OVER the highly
> raked back mast,when changing sides during a tack, not "in front of" the
> mast. And you need to do it quickly.
>
> > He say he needs to be quick to not sink it.
> Yep, but he needs to step over the mast. It's very difficult to do '
> longboard (i.e. around the front of the mast foot) tacks on any
> shortboard, and it gets more difficult and requires more speed as
> the volume and width of the board get smaller.
>
weight partly suspended off the boom imho are the key points for
shortboard tacks. Stepping over the mast may help not to sink the board
if one can't be too quick for some reason but i still prefer the
"dancing" steps in front of or besides the mast instead of risking to
trip over it. On really small boards it doesn't matter anyways, they
sink wether one steps before the mast or a bit behind, yet they can be
tacked. Just be quick and keep the power on.
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Wolfgang