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What does "sheet in" term mean?

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a1ik

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Jul 30, 2001, 5:32:57 PM7/30/01
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I read this in some windsurfing instructions regarding jibing technique.
What does it mean?

Thank you!


MTVNewsGuy

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Jul 30, 2001, 6:07:59 PM7/30/01
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Sheet In, as in sheeting in, generally refers to pulling with your back hand on
the sail, with the pulling pressure coming from either shoulder rotation or
extending your legs or flexing your arm. Sheeting in while jibing is usually
discussed when you're entering the downwind turn.
Michael
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sailquik (Roger Jackson)

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Jul 30, 2001, 6:50:47 PM7/30/01
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Hello Alik,
Michael did a pretty good job of defining what "sheeting in" is.
To add a little, as Michael said, you bring the clew (that's corner of
the sail
that fastens to the end of your boom or wishbone) in toward the
centerline of the
board. You can do this in all the way Michael described, but there's
another way that
helps coming into "powered up" jibes. If you hold your back hand in the
same position,
and allow your front hand to go in toward the center of your turn, this
will pull you
down, and help you to bend your knees. Since you moved the front of the
sail out away
from you, without changing the sheeting angle with your back hand, you
essentially
"sheeted in" the sail.
But going into a very powered up jibe, you may want to do both, and
oversheet slightly.
This will pull the board into your turn, and help to set the rail and
pull your front
hand down and in toward the center of the turn, helping you get into the
proper "knees
bent", torso down low and driving the rail into your turn.
This said, one of the big problems with all this "sheet in going into a
jibe" or
"oversheet going into a jibe" is that no one seems to tell the new jiber
that this only
works if you are really powered up.
If you are marginally powered, or just mildly powered up, sheeting
in/oversheeting is like
putting on the brakes. So, unless you are going "scary fast", need to
lose a little speed.
and use the forces generated by oversheeting to pull you into the carve,
and keep the rail
pressure on, then you really don't want to oversheet going into your
jibes.
It's the best way to ensure that you stall half way around.

Hope this helps,
Roger

Endo

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Jul 30, 2001, 9:51:51 PM7/30/01
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Yes! This talk about "sheeting in" tricked me for a while and was one
of the major factors that screwed up my jibe progress (I'm hitting
about 50% jibes now after 1.5 years, BTW).

Face it, I never met a person who is trying to learn to jibe who tries
one in "scary fast" conditions. Usually this also means "big chop" so
the whole chance of success is pretty remote.

If you look at most lower speed carve jibes, the guy makes a little
extension with the front hand to pull him up onto the leeward rail and
the back hand doesn't pull in much at all!

Once that's done, the guy actually "sheet's out" relative to the board
centerline in order to keep the speed up all the way through the turn.
The guy is not really sheeting out or in much since the board is
carving down wind at the same time the sail is sheeted out so relative
to the wind, the sail positon doesn't change much (if you were to view
it from above).

Point is, don't let the "sheet in" part screw you up if you are in
marginal planing conditions like most folks trying jibes.

Endo

a1ik

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Jul 30, 2001, 11:46:09 PM7/30/01
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Thank all of you guys again for very detailed answer!

Now I have another question. I understand how important is to keep your
forward foot in a strap. I should help to put the board on the rail. Do I
really need to learn how to sail in straps first, or it is worth to try
jibing even with free standing feet, just applying pressure on the inner
rail with the rear foot?

--Alik


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Mike F

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Jul 31, 2001, 1:13:42 AM7/31/01
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Does "hitting" mean planing all the way through? If so, congrats!!!

Mike \m/


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Tom McClelland

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Jul 31, 2001, 4:11:27 AM7/31/01
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Alik,

It depends what speed you are trying to sail at in what windstrength. Its
perfectly reasonable to learn low-wind gybing if you cannot yet get your
feet in the straps comfortably, but to learn planing techniques you have to
have the basic skills first, which means feet in straps, harness,
comfortable on a broad/beam/close reach at very high speeds, controlled
footsteering etc. Also learn to waterstart (well) before trying high speed
gybing or you'll be exhausted after 5 minutes on the water.

Sailing at speed in the straps is a lot of fun, a HUGE buzz. Learn to enjoy
that under control before trying to dial high-speed gybes.

Low wind (non-planing) gybing is completely different. You dig the
*windward* rail and scoop the top of the rig to windward while stepping to
the back of the board and it will turn 180 in its own length or less, then
step back forward and flip the rig ( you can sail clew first for a while on
the new tack in light winds).

If you are not moving at speeds where you go naturally into the straps then
you are unlikely to be able to carve a turn with foot pressure. Sorry.

Regards

Tom

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a1ik

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Jul 31, 2001, 2:56:58 PM7/31/01
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Tom,

Thank you for your help! Of course, I will have to go through my own unique
learning route, but advices and opinions of experienced sailors will help me
a lot that is for sure. I have plenty of reasons to start learning to jybe
in low wind conditions. One of them is lack of wind in the recent days in
Toronto area. Well, will see what fall will bring us...

Talking about low wind gybing, could you please clarify for the following
two pieces from your instructions:

1 - "...scoop the top of the rig to windward"
2 - "... in its own length or less"

--Alik


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Mike F

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Jul 31, 2001, 4:59:32 PM7/31/01
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You WILL NOT learn to carve planing jibes until you have the skills to blast
around at blazing speeds comfortably locked into back straps and harness. "Just
applying pressure to the inner rail with the rear foot" is one percent of
completing a carved (planing, by definition) jibe.

Mike \m/

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