known issues with DVD Burners?

[mr. smith]

about to buy a DVD burner... what should I look out for? what are the
known issues. and what brand/model is most preferred right now? Is plextor
going to make a DVD burner or what?

[Centurytel News]

Best I can tell is....
If you want speedy DVD RW burning then go with the H-P DVD+RW
If you want to make DVD's for your set top box then go with Pioneer A03
and avoid DVD+RW like the plague.

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[John Beale]

In rec.video.production mr. smith <clo...@usa.net> wrote:
: about to buy a DVD burner... what should I look out for? what are the

: known issues. and what brand/model is most preferred right now? Is plextor
: going to make a DVD burner or what?

My Pioneer A03 works well for me. See my writeup here:
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/DVD/authoring.html

I think the most important question is what software you're planning to
use. The hardware works OK, but the software is complex and the market is
not yet mature. (read: the DVD authoring process is tricky).

The original question was posted to seven newsgroups which is kind of
excessive. I've set followup-to to rec.video.desktop which is where I've
seen most of the DVD burners discussed.

[Michael Crespo]

what about the newly announced dvd-r from Phillips? The compatibility issue
with stand alone dvd players is supposed to be solved. Have you heard about
this?

Here is the press release:

Philips introduces DVD+R media
Thursday, 31 January 2002

Philips is introducing the first write-once DVD+R recordable discs for
making permanent digital video recordings on DVD+RW DVD Recorders. These new
discs are ideal for making recordings that consumers wish to keep and
collect, for example their own, edited camcorder videos.
The new DVD+R discs are available in addition to the existing DVD+RW
rewritable discs, which can be used over and over again repeatedly for
making new recordings. Together, this choice of recordable and rewritable
discs lets consumers choose the type of recordings they want to make. DVD+RW
discs are ideal for recordings that will be kept temporarily, for viewing
once or just a few times. On the other hand the new DVD+R discs are the
optimum choice for making treasured recordings to be collected or shared
with family and friends.

Even higher compatibility with DVD-Video players and DVD-ROM drives Next to
their lower price, the DVD+R discs offer an even higher compatibility with
existing DVD-Video players and DVD-ROM drives, further fulfilling DVD+RW's
promise of the highest possible compatibility. This means that consumers'
digital video recordings made on Philips DVD+R discs can be replayed on
virtually every DVD-Video player and PC DVD-ROM drive in the world,
regardless of type and brand.

The Philips DVD+R discs will be available in most markets in Europe from
January 2002 onwards, at a price of approximately EUR 12 excl. levy or local
equivalent.

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[Jeff Wildman]

The only problem with this is that Philips and the DVD+RW camp have a long
history of announcing "vaporware" and never meeting projected release dates. In
addition, Philips has an especially bad track record for horrid marketing and an
extremely weak dealer network (especially in North America). To make all of this
worse, they have Sony as a supporter. Enough said.

[Nobody_of_Consequence]

Pretty sad to have Sony as supporter. They install Pioneer
dvd-r in their pc's.

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[Mark & Mary Ann Weiss]

Utter baloney.
The media costs more.
My friend bought a DVD+RW drive from Sony, and now he's returning it because
the discs are not compatible with EITHER of his two DVD players, which play
DVD-R discs just fine.

--
Regards,

Mark & Mary Ann
(to reply, remove xspam)
www.mwcomms.com

[Phil Windell]

Don't know about the brand of hardware side of it, but you want to go with
DVD-R / DVD-RW and avoid the +R and +RW, because a stand alone DVD Player
won't read those. I suspect the -R and -RW will eventually win in the
standardization war. I think DVD-RAM is already a thing of the past.

--

Phillip Windell (MCP)
Network Administrator
WAND - TV
pwin...@wandtv.com
www.wandtv.com

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[wally]

In article <u681bld...@corp.supernews.com>, "Phil Windell" <pwin...@wandtv.com> wrote:
>Don't know about the brand of hardware side of it, but you want to go with
>DVD-R / DVD-RW and avoid the +R and +RW, because a stand alone DVD Player
>won't read those. I suspect the -R and -RW will eventually win in the
>standardization war. I think DVD-RAM is already a thing of the past.
>

I wasn't happy with the compatability of either in existing players. YMMV
I think the format "war" is a distraction to avoid the simple fact that
neither format is delivering caompatability as good as is being claimed.

I've tried and returned both. Both formats are good in some players bad in
others. I'd give the edge to DVD-R by a rather large margin.

--wally.

[JJones]

Phil Windell wrote:
>I think DVD-RAM is already a thing of the past.

I don't agree.

Neither does the DVD Forum.

HITACHI will soon be shipping the new GMA-4020B drive, which supports
the following three (3) DVD formats:

1. DVD-R
2. DVD-RW
3. DVD-RAM

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-275411.html?legacy=cnet

The Hitachi drive is supposed to be the first of the next generation
of DVD consumer products to support the new DVD MULTI specification
1.0 released in December:

http://www.m3online.com/industry_news/1008882796.html

Panasonic also has unveiled a drive that supports DVD-R, DVD-RW and
DVD-RAM:

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=1750

So these new "DVD MULTI" drives appear to solve most compatibility
issues.

[NOTE: The "DVD MULTI" specification does not support DVD+RW nor
DVD+R.]

The DVD FORUM defines DVD specifications and licences the DVD format
logo as well as the new "DVD Multi" designation.

According to the DVD FORUM Web site, the rogue DVD+RW and DVD+R
formats were "neither developed nor approved by the DVD Forum":

http://www.dvdforum.com/forum.shtml

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[Mark & Mary Ann Weiss]

>
>I wasn't happy with the compatability of either in existing players. YMMV
>I think the format "war" is a distraction to avoid the simple fact that
>neither format is delivering caompatability as good as is being claimed.
>
>I've tried and returned both. Both formats are good in some players bad in
>others. I'd give the edge to DVD-R by a rather large margin.
>
>--wally.
>
>

For this, we can thank the recording/movie industry, which forced the DVD
recordable formats to be castrated. Missing is the CSS bitstream, which some
set top players require in order to recognize it as a valid DVD. DVDs you
make on a PC or Mac for General use don't have these bits, hence 50% of the
players will error when reading these.

The only DVD recordables with 100% compatibility are DVD for authoring. The
burners cost $5000 each and the media are about $15-20 each.

Take care,

Mark & Mary Ann Weiss
Hobbies page: http://basspig.tripod.com/

Business sites at:
www.dv-clips.com
www.mwcomms.com
www.adventuresinanimemusic.com
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