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Is the S-VHS Sony SLV-R1000 Any Good?

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George Sidor

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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I have the opportunity to purchase this S-VHS Sony SLV-R1000 VCR for $599.
Is this VCR worth it? I know I've seen them selling for about $200 more.
Anyone used this VCR? If you have how is the picture quality compared to
the best S-VHS VCR's out there? Thanks for any info.

George Sidor


Rolf Kevin Zigler

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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I have a "sliver" 1000 and I like its combination of quality and
features including:

A jog control on both the console and remote.
LANC and Control S (one at a time).
Automatic adjustment of image quality.

Kevin Zigler

Harry Jones

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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Have had the SLV-1000 for 2 years - got it to replace a Sony SLVR-5 that I
could not (nor could local Sony repair shop) keep working for more than 6
months at a time. The SLV-1000 is a very versatile machine and mine has
been extremely reliable. Picture quality was slightly worse than SLVR-5 and
a $1100 JVC SVHS deck that I used to have, but the JVC was crap, too -
lasted less than 2 years.

If you can get the Sony for $599, go for it! Most places want about $900,
so you are getting a good price.
George Sidor wrote in message <6mu7uk$nbr$1...@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>...

Louis A. Carliner

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Jun 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/26/98
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"Harry Jones" <hjo...@mindspring.com> wrote:

If you want top notch video record and playback that the S-video format is
capable of, you will want to go with the Panasonic Ag-1980. It is very popular
among independent producers. To go any better, you will be investing some
$5000 in a broadcast grade JVC S-video machine.

Louis. . .

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Kurtis Bahr

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Jun 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/26/98
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Kier DeAnda wrote:
>
> On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:18:41 GMT, pvt...@newsguy.com (Louis A. Carliner)
> wrote:
>
> <previous posts snipped>

> >
> >If you want top notch video record and playback that the S-video format is
> >capable of, you will want to go with the Panasonic Ag-1980. It is very popular
> >among independent producers. To go any better, you will be investing some
> >$5000 in a broadcast grade JVC S-video machine.
> >
> >Louis. . .
> >
> >Louis A. Carliner
>
> This is actually similar to what I was about to ask regarding the SLV-R1000:
> How does it compare with the AG-1980? Has anyone else done a side by side
> comparison? I am about to make a similar purchase, but unfortunately the
> retail outlets here have only the R1000 on display (and generally few SVHS
> machines at all - something about too expensive to have as a display for the
> number they sell. Grr).
> Along similar lines: Is the SLV-R1000 the same unit as the SVO-2000? They
> appear alike from the photos I've seen (except for BNC connectors on the SVO)
> and the specs (such that I can find) also appear identical.
>
> To be on topic, $600 I think is an excellent deal for the R1000... I usually
> see it for 800-1100.
> -=K


The SLV-R1000 has manual audio adjust that is common for right and left,
no balance. The SVO-2000 adds balance. The SVO-2000 also adds a
computer control interface.

The SVO-2000 is a glorified SLV-R1000.

The AG-1980 is also a glorified Panasonic consumer model, actually an
older model that they keep enhancing. The newer Panasonic consumer
models cannot touch it.

The Sony SLV-R5 was THE GOOD SONY that I feel has a SVHS picture that is
only equaled by some and a VHS picture unequaled. But no computer
interface, it has Control-L or LANC and Control S.

If you are just recording and watching the SLV-R1000 is fine. If you
plan to do editing making copies of copies the AG-1980 or SLV-R5 are
better. But as stated above if you plan to do real editing and copying
get a real professional/industrial model. Used ones can be had in the
$2,500.00 range.

Kurtis

Kier DeAnda

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Jun 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/27/98
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Louis A. Carliner

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ki...@spamdead.tutsys.com (Kier DeAnda) wrote:

Some of the SLV-1000 samples I have seen tended to have a very soft picture
when sourced from tuner. This is the only caveat. Otherwise, it may be a
reasonable deal. The Panasonic AG-1980 will set you back some $1200 and you
are likely to have to order it from 47th Street Photo or Camera World or maybe
One-Call. But in terms of record and playback quality, based on my experiences
in encountering this at customer sites, the superiority just from casual use
was substantial.

Louis. . . .

Louis A. Carliner

Your source for video calibration expertise for

Brent Best

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Louis A. Carliner wrote:
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> "Harry Jones" <hjo...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Have had the SLV-1000 for 2 years - got it to replace a Sony SLVR-5 that I
> >could not (nor could local Sony repair shop) keep working for more than 6
> >months at a time.

What is a Sony SLVr-5 I keep hearing about? How old is it? Is it a
"semi-pro" machine? While shopping for a Panasonic AG1980 in a high end
video shop, I saw two used Sony S-VHS machines with real polished wood
end panels (they were asking CAN$1000 each for them). I considered
buying one but was reluctant buy a used Sony because the heads on my
Sony SLV-575 wore out after 5 years of heavy home use.

Were they actually the SLVR-5?

Kill All Spammers

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In article <35945523...@news.geo.net>, Kier DeAnda <ki...@deadspam.tutsys.com> wrote:
>This is actually similar to what I was about to ask regarding the SLV-R1000:
>How does it compare with the AG-1980? Has anyone else done a side by side
>comparison? I am about to make a similar purchase, but unfortunately the
>retail outlets here have only the R1000 on display (and generally few SVHS
>machines at all - something about too expensive to have as a display for the
>number they sell. Grr).

The AG-1980 is much more oriented towards editing than the Sony. It
has a TBC. It also has a 3D adaptive comb filter. The AG-1980 also
costs about $1200 wheras the Sony is about $900-$1000 most places.
$600 is a really good deal. I hope it's legit. The Sony has a few
more dumb consumer bells and whistles (VCR+ etc). The R1000 is a nice
VCR with a very good picture but it's not a great editing deck.

>Along similar lines: Is the SLV-R1000 the same unit as the SVO-2000? They
>appear alike from the photos I've seen (except for BNC connectors on the SVO)
>and the specs (such that I can find) also appear identical.

They are very similar. I checked this out about two years ago and
ended up buying the Sony. I might have gone for the AG-1980 but back
then the Camera World was selling the R1000 for $800 and saving $450
was nice and I really needed Sony editing capability anyway.

I managed to get a hold of a Sony SVO-2000 brochure. Here's the
differences I found (I wrote this two years ago):

1. The SVO-2000 has independant left and right audio record level
controls, The SLV-R1000 only has a single audio record level
control.

2. The SLV-R1000 has a mini-phono plug control-L port on the front.
The SVO-2000 instead has a 5 pin control port on the back for the
RM-250 edit controller. This port looks a lot like the 5 pin DIN
control-L port on my SLV-757 but according to the Sony rep. I talked
to it is not a control-L port and is not compatible with anything
but the RM-250. On the other hand, a review in Videomaker (see
http://www.videomaker.com/edit/mag/feb96/productp.htm) says they
used the rear 5 pin control-L with a Videonics controller with the
SVO-2000. The brochure gives the pinout and one of the pins
is labeled LANC. The pins are (1) DC OUT, (2) CTL with DC, (3) EE
out, (4) LANC signal, (5) GND.

3. The rear composite video inputs and outputs use BNC connectors
instead of RCA jacks on the SVO-2000. There is no RCA video output
with the SVO-2000 and there is one RCA video input on the front
panel. The SLV-R1000 has all the same video inputs and outputs
except all use RCA for the composite jacks. All are available in
s-video as well in both decks (3 sets of inputs and 2 sets of
outputs). BNC->RCA converters are $2.99 at Radio Shack.

4. The SVO-2000 has a key inhibit switch. This deactivates all keys so
that you don't mess up operations (say during a big assemble edit).

5. The SVO-2000 has a headphone jack. The SLV-R1000 does not.

6. The SVO-2000 has both control-S input and control-S output. The
SLV-R1000 only has control-S input.

7. The SVO-2000 costs about $200 more than the SLV-R1000.

8. The SVO-2000 is easier to get via mail order ;-).

--Bill Davidson

john r pierce

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Brent Best <bjb...@interlog.com> wrote:

Sounds like it. I have a SLV-R5. a brushed bronze front panel and real wood
veneer sides. Its the predecessor of the SLV-R1000, and was Sony's first SVHS
deck. Like many of Sony's first products, its quite excellent. Mine has had
one trip to the shop in 6 years for a thorough cleaning and recalibration, it
records and plays quite good quality in either VHS or SVHS. It IS a consumer
deck, albeit a high end consumer deck. I have used mine for editing from Hi8,
basically simple 'pause' editing, its glitch free. it has a handy overlay mode
when in record pause, where you can shuttle the R5's video and see the source in
a picture-in-picture window, it also has a 'edit' display where the source is in
one window and the recorder is in the other window and the rest of the screen
shows status. It has no real timecode, just tape position, but its fairly
accurate.

-jrp


Harry Jones

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Thje SLV-R5 did have polishce wood end panels - very pretty machine.
However, at about 6 months the video heads and drum had to be replaced on
mine - kept having "sparklies" on SVHS playback. At about 18 monthsr, the
HIFI audio crapped out - local Sony repair center trashed the unit trying to
fix it (they ran up a $700+ repair bill) and ended up getting the R1000 as a
replacement via an extended warranty.

The SLV-R5 went off the market in 1995. I had heard that it was not even
made by Sony; also heard that many other people had problems. It was THE
SONY that showed me that Sony made crap now and that their customer service
is crap. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone and writing letters about
the problems I had with the SLV-R5 - they ignored my complaints.

Also learned a lesson abut extended warranties - had to threaten warranty
company with small claims court to get them to pay up.

Ron Roth

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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HJ>Thje SLV-R5 did have polishce wood end panels - very pretty machine.
HJ>However, at about 6 months the video heads and drum had to be replaced on
HJ>mine - kept having "sparklies" on SVHS playback. At about 18 monthsr,
HJ>the HIFI audio crapped out - local Sony repair center trashed the unit
HJ>trying to fix it (they ran up a $700+ repair bill) and ended up getting
HJ>the R1000 as a replacement via an extended warranty.
HJ>The SLV-R5 went off the market in 1995. I had heard that it was not even
HJ>made by Sony; also heard that many other people had problems. It was THE
HJ>SONY that showed me that Sony made crap now and that their customer
HJ>service is crap. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone and writing
HJ>letters about the problems I had with the SLV-R5 - they ignored my
HJ>complaints.
HJ>Also learned a lesson abut extended warranties - had to threaten warranty
HJ>company with small claims court to get them to pay up.
--
I've had a SLV-R5 for 6 years with no problems whatsoever, except for
the memory back-up capacitor going belly up after a few years and which
I replaced with a battery, and except for that famous sticky tape return
arm, which I was able to easily fix myself also. Otherwise, the R5,
and 3 other Sony VHS VCRs in my family, have been operating perfectly.
I wonder if yours or mine were manufactured in different plants, or if
different parts were used to explain these inconsistencies?
--
* Ron Roth

Jeff Wildman

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Your story is very much like mine. I had two SLV-R5 units and both of them
developed sync failures on insert editing due to bad microprocessors. I had them
repaired and sold them both. The person who bought them reported tape transport
failures on both of them after about another 10 months of use. It's been
Panasonic AG-series machines since then without any problems. It was my farewell
to poor quality and service from generally overrated Sony products.

Harry Jones wrote:

> Thje SLV-R5 did have polishce wood end panels - very pretty machine.

> However, at about 6 months the video heads and drum had to be replaced on

> mine - kept having "sparklies" on SVHS playback. At about 18 monthsr, the
> HIFI audio crapped out - local Sony repair center trashed the unit trying to
> fix it (they ran up a $700+ repair bill) and ended up getting the R1000 as a


> replacement via an extended warranty.
>

> The SLV-R5 went off the market in 1995. I had heard that it was not even

> made by Sony; also heard that many other people had problems. It was THE

> SONY that showed me that Sony made crap now and that their customer service
> is crap. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone and writing letters about
> the problems I had with the SLV-R5 - they ignored my complaints.


>
> Also learned a lesson abut extended warranties - had to threaten warranty

Harry Jones

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Jun 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/28/98
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Dunno about the parts. But, the first one that I had, out of the box, would
not load about 50% of my tapes - acted like the tapes were warped, which
they weren't. Swapped it for the second one, which worked great for a while.

I stand by my opinion - BUT my SLV-R5 was no worse than two expensive JVC
SVHS machines ($1000 plus), which both were crap also.

Ron Roth wrote in message <6n61t7$8...@james.hwcn.org>...
>HJ>Thje SLV-R5 did have polishce wood end panels - very pretty machine.
>HJ>However, at about 6 months the video heads and drum had to be replaced
on
>HJ>mine - kept having "sparklies" on SVHS playback. At about 18 monthsr,
>HJ>the HIFI audio crapped out - local Sony repair center trashed the unit
>HJ>trying to fix it (they ran up a $700+ repair bill) and ended up getting
>HJ>the R1000 as a replacement via an extended warranty.
>HJ>The SLV-R5 went off the market in 1995. I had heard that it was not
even
>HJ>made by Sony; also heard that many other people had problems. It was
THE
>HJ>SONY that showed me that Sony made crap now and that their customer
>HJ>service is crap. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone and writing
>HJ>letters about the problems I had with the SLV-R5 - they ignored my
>HJ>complaints.
>HJ>Also learned a lesson abut extended warranties - had to threaten
warranty

Kurtis Bahr

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Jun 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/29/98
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Jeff Wildman wrote:
>
> Your story is very much like mine. I had two SLV-R5 units and both of them
> developed sync failures on insert editing due to bad microprocessors. I had them
> repaired and sold them both. The person who bought them reported tape transport
> failures on both of them after about another 10 months of use. It's been
> Panasonic AG-series machines since then without any problems. It was my farewell
> to poor quality and service from generally overrated Sony products.
>
> Harry Jones wrote:
>
> > Thje SLV-R5 did have polishce wood end panels - very pretty machine.
> > However, at about 6 months the video heads and drum had to be replaced on
> > mine - kept having "sparklies" on SVHS playback. At about 18 monthsr, the
> > HIFI audio crapped out - local Sony repair center trashed the unit trying to
> > fix it (they ran up a $700+ repair bill) and ended up getting the R1000 as a

> > replacement via an extended warranty.
> >
> > The SLV-R5 went off the market in 1995. I had heard that it was not even
> > made by Sony; also heard that many other people had problems. It was THE
> > SONY that showed me that Sony made crap now and that their customer service
> > is crap. I spent quite a bit of time on the phone and writing letters about
> > the problems I had with the SLV-R5 - they ignored my complaints.

> >
> > Also learned a lesson abut extended warranties - had to threaten warranty
> > company with small claims court to get them to pay up.


I have a few of these R5's. The problems were the power supply,
capstain motor and Tape load swing arm. I replaced the power supply
Electroyltic Capacitors, cleaned the swing arm and verified I had the
inproved capstain motor. After performing this I have had no problems
for years.

I had a friend who was having sync problems. I replaced a capacitor in
the power supply, Realigned the mechanical timing as SONY and a few
parts off 1 tooth and fixed the swing arm. He now says it works better
than when he first got it.

My conclusion is that the R5 is best consumer unit ever as it also has
the best VHS picture I've ever seen. Sony technicians do not know how
easy it is to fix these. The capstain motor being bad creates all kind
of problems that make you look everywhere else. I know Sony has claimed
they could not fix R5's or the VHS from the same family and all they
needed was a new capstain motor. Once properly fixed, this unit will
work for years. It's a shame Sony can't fix things right themselves.

Kurtis

Brent Best

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Jul 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/3/98
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Jeff Wildman wrote:
>
> Your story is very much like mine. I had two SLV-R5 units and both of them
> developed sync failures on insert editing due to bad microprocessors. I had them
> repaired and sold them both. The person who bought them reported tape transport
> failures on both of them after about another 10 months of use. It's been
> Panasonic AG-series machines since then without any problems. It was my farewell
> to poor quality and service from generally overrated Sony products.
>
Gee... makes me glad I didn't buy one of them. I still have my Sony VHS
SLV-575 (that's the machine from 1991 that had a thick heavy front panel
door; that when it was closed the VCR looked like a featureless black
box aside from the shuttle dial.) It had fantastic tape handling -
virtually frame accurate, even though if didn't have flying erase
heads. It is one of the last consumer HiFI machines to have seperate
left and right recording level controls (even if the tiny knobs were a
pain to operate.)

However, four years of heavy use later, I noticed a crackling sound was
recorded in the HiFi tracks (playing back tapes from other machines was
fine, but tapes recorded in the SLV575 would play back in other machines
with the bad audio too. The problem got worse and worse, until the
machine become useless as a recorder. Strangely, the problem only ever
occured on the first and last 25% of the tape.

Also, I had to replace the takeup reel's brake shoe; whose pad had wore
away down to the metal brake arm.

Then I bought a Panasonic AG1980 ( it also developed glitches -
different story ), and two days afterward the Sony machine's recording
capability quit, turning it into a fairly decent HiFi play-only machine.

I also had a Sony SLV700 - but was so dissappointed I gave it to my
brother ( who is not a VCR editting hobbyist like myself ). That
machine sometimes refused to eject unless one pulls the plug on it.

Brent Best

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Jul 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/6/98
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PFC Enterprises wrote:
>
> I have a SLVR1000. It is a pretty good deck. My only problems will not
> affect must of the people using it. The inserts are not frame accurate.. To avoid this problem you will have to get a
> professional SVHS or you might try the Panasonic AG-1980. I haven't yet,
> but I here it is a real good deck.
>
> Vance Collins
> va...@iolaks.com
>

Not really - I own one of those machines. It has a problem that a few
other people have noted. One can easily insert "live" video glitch-free
- but if you try back to back black or very dark scene edits, like when
editing out commercials by dubbing of a previously recorded TV program,
one gets a multicolored "blip" about 30% of the time.

George Sidor

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Jul 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/13/98
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Thanks to everyone for the info on S-VHS decks. I decided to get the new
JVC HR-S9500U. It seemed to be the next "King of the Hill" of the prosumer
VCR's. I sure hope it is.

George Sidor


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