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LANC cable - anything special?

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Chazdoyl

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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LANC has 3 wires. You might find the small sub-mini stereo plugs at Radio
Shack. Not always, though. I think it is a 2.5mm plug. The store I went to only
had a sub-mini (2.5mm) to mini (1/8") adapter. I had to wire my cable into a
1/8" stereo, then use the adapter. I works, although a little clumsy.

chaz

Jolly Sama

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Hello all,
I recently purchased an open-box Thumbs-Up 2000 unit and need an LANC
cable. The places I've asked (Fry's, Radio Shack, Circuit City, Good Guys --
all places that 800-222-SONY said carried the cables) don't know anything about
them unless I can actually point to the port on an actual camcorder on display.
Even then they say that I can only get a replacement cable from Sony. I am
unable to locate a Sony store and cannot find the product on www.sony.com.
I was wondering what would happen if I simply took an RCA cable, cut off
the ends, and soldered on ends that fit the LANC ports. Would this work well
enough, or do I have to continue this search through the galaxy for a product
which nobody knows anything about?

Many thanks in advance,
Josh Church

John R Pierce

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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chaz...@aol.com (Chazdoyl) wrote:

actually, LANC only uses two wires, tip and ground. Some LANC
connectors have a 3rd wire for power, but for 99% of applications its
best to leave this disconnected.

Its normally a MONO sub-mini phone plug at both ends, unless one or
the other end is a mini-din.

-jrp


Jolly Sama

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Thanks for the help everyone. I ended up finding adapters that fit onto an RCA
cable that go into both the Thumbs-Up and the camcorder. However, it doesn't
seem to work. I can't verify this until I order the manual from Videonics
though, so testings over till then unless anyone could tell me how to know for
sure...

Thanks again,
Josh Church

Chazdoyl

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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John R Pierce wrote:

>actually, LANC only uses two wires, tip and ground. Some LANC
>connectors have a 3rd wire for power, but for 99% of applications its
>best to leave this disconnected.
>
>Its normally a MONO sub-mini phone plug at both ends, unless one or
>the other end is a mini-din.

ALL the LANC cables I have use a 3 pin plug, except for the older 5 pin Din.
But the LANC protocol uses 3 wires: Ground, data, and power. While true that
many devices do not need the power, many edit controllers require power, such
as the Sony RM-100, as well as others. Also, some cables, even thought they
have 3 pin plugs, only use two wires, as you stated.

So I'll have to disagree that "most" cables use mono plugs. To advise only
using two wires is misleading, and falls short of the LANC protocol, as
designed by SONY, and would not work on devices requiring the power lead.

chaz

Jolly Sama

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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I'm a bit confused by all this info. 3 wires? I just see one sub-mini plug on
both the camcorder and the Thumbs Up... I was mixed up when I said I was using
an RCA cable. Actually I have a cable with 1/8" plugss on each end, and I have
two 1//8" to sub-mini adapters to put on the ends. Should this work?

Thanks, and sorry for my confusion, just tired...

Josh Church

Ambir Jicera

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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Jolly Sama wrote in message
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The pieces you described will work so long as all ends are stereo.

Let me give you Radio Shack part numbers in USA.

one piece - 1/8" male to male 6 foot stereo cable part number 42-2387
two pieces - adapter accepts stereo 1/8" male and has 3/32 stereo plug
274-373

Stereo means the same as three wires in this case.

Yes these work so long as you are using the stereo versions
of the cable and adapters.

I just tried it with two different Sony camcorders.

Ambir


Ambir Jicera

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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I used my camcorder with its pcmcia memory
stick to take a photo from page 125 of the 1999
Radio Shack catalog and attached it to the e-mail
for the Josh. The photo depicts the difference for
a stereo plug.

Josh - if you don't get the email with the photo and
message below, let me know.

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Hi,

You want to use the stereo version.

The stereo version has the extra band shown
in the attached photo.

The picture says that the mono versions
doesn't have the extra band. That is correct.
You don't want the mono version. You want
the stereo version with the extra band.

You may need to use a magnifier to see
it clearly.

Chances are that if you bought the least
expensive ones, they are the wrong ones.

Take what you bought into a Radio Shack
together with a printout of my previous post
with the part numbers and that will help them
check it for you.

Ambir

Jolly Sama wrote in message

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>I'm not sure of the model numbers on the plugs and wire, as I bought them a
>while ago. Is there a way to see by looking at them if they're stereo or
mono?
>
>
>Thanks again,
>Josh Church

John R Pierce

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Sep 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/28/99
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joll...@aol.com (Jolly Sama) wrote:

>I'm not sure of the model numbers on the plugs and wire, as I bought them a
>while ago. Is there a way to see by looking at them if they're stereo or mono?

a mono plug has only a tip and a sleeve. a stereo plug has a tip, a
ring, and a sleeve.

look at a stereo headphone jack for an example of a tip/ring/sleeve
plug...

fyi, this style plug is always known as a PHONE plug, not to be
confused with the PHONO or RCA plug used for stereo line and video
line interconnects on consumer electronics.

The standard PHONE plug is 1/4" diameter and about 1.5" long. The
mini phone plug is the standard walkman style headphone jack.
Control-L uses a submini version.

btw, re: mono, I was wrong, sorry. I dug up my official sony mini-DIN
to submini phone Control-L cable, its got a stereo submini on that
end. I remember having a HELL of a time finding stereo submini jacks
and plugs as most other submini applications are mono (older cassette
decks often used submini mono jacks for a remote 'pause' switch or
foot pedal).

-jrp

Jolly Sama

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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I'm not sure of the model numbers on the plugs and wire, as I bought them a
while ago. Is there a way to see by looking at them if they're stereo or mono?


Thanks again,
Josh Church

Chazdoyl

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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Thanks for clarification, Ambir. You stated it much better than I did.

Josh,
I think there might be a danger using a mono plug, as an earlier poster
recommended. The mono plug *COULD* short out a deck that has is supplying power
to the LANC connection. This wouldn't neccessarily render the deck inoperable,
but it would blow the fuse chip in the deck. (I speak from experience) The LANC
functions might still work, but there would no longer be power to the LANC.

chaz

Jolly Sama

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Sep 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/29/99
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hey,
When I woke up (with the help of a little coffee), I figured out to count
the bands on my own, then went to radio shack. Besides having to deal with a
PITA for a salesman, I the right cord and adapters and it worked like a charm.
Thanks to everyone for all their help, and for teaching me an extra thing or
two about wires.


Thanks again,
Josh Church

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