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Pioneer Elite CLD-95 any comments? laserdisc player

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Lawrence Chiu

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Apr 7, 1992, 3:15:31 AM4/7/92
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Now that everybody knows that the 3090 is a real dog, how is the CLD-95
Elite CLD player? Does it share the same problems with the 3090? Please
share whatever knowledge you have on this player. Thank you.

Lawrence

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Lawrence Chiu

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Apr 7, 1992, 3:22:04 AM4/7/92
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I have a video source that has no sync (neither horizontal nor vertical).
On most TV's, the picture rolls. Is there a device to insert a sync so
that this will not happen? I mean, besides a time-base corrector. No
than a couple hundred dollars.

Thank you,
Lawrence

Vidiot

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Apr 9, 1992, 12:54:10 PM4/9/92
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All video sources have sync, both vertical and horizontal, of some sort. If
it isn't NTSC compatible video, then the video will not work correctly on
NTSC TVs.
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Carey Kinoshita

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Apr 14, 1992, 3:06:07 AM4/14/92
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The CLD-95 is a great laserdisc player. It doens't share any of the
problems that the CLD-3080 or the CLD-3090 have. There is a big
difference in picture between the CLD-95 or in general any Elite
series laserdisc player and the CLD-3080 or CLD-3090. The colors
are much richer, the blacks are much darker, the contrast is much
better, and the biggest difference is the sharpness of the picture.
I was astounded when I saw the picture of a CLD-95 next to the
picture of a CLD-3080. The sharpness was increadible and the detail
in the picture was extraordinary! It made the picture of the CLD-3080
with Dynamic Range Extention enabled (which I used to think was the
picture off a laserdisc player) pale in comparison with the CLD-95.
I hear that this is one of the first things that people would notice
when comparing the picture of a Elite laserdisc player and a non-Elite
laserdisc player.

The CLD-95 has a noise reduction circuit like the CLD-3090 which
is for the purpose of smoothing out the picture on very old laserdisc
which would be very hard on the eyes because of the CLD-95's
extremely sharp picture.

The sound from the CLD-95 is much better than that of the CLD-3080
or the CLD-3090. The sound from the CLD-3080 is very thin, lacked
depth, sounds strained like the power supplies cannot supply all
the juice that the D/A conversion circuitry needs.

The RF shielding on the CLD-95 is much better than the CLD-3080
and a lot better than the CLD-3090. Before I periodically used to
see a 2-inch thick transparent, but very noticeable vertical line
float across my screen when playing a laserdisc on my CLD-3080.
This transparent vertical line would even be recorded by my VCR
when I am transferring video off the laserdisc onto a video tape.
I have not seen any RF leakage of any type with my CLD-95.

The CLD-95 is very heavy and can easily strain a middle-aged person's
back so you should lift with care. Pioneer is using a faster motor
in the CLD-95 to decrease flipping time, heavy duty power supplies,
a thick steel chasis to reduce vibration, finely tuned real 20 bit
D/A conveters, and hand picked high-precision parts.

It is interesting that the Elite series and the high-end units in the
Japanese laserdisc line all use multi-bit DACs as opposed to 1-Bit
DACs. The Japanese videophile magazine "Video Salon" says that
Pioneer is using multi-bit DACs because 1-bit DACs are known to
overload when there is a lot of high frequency information being
input to the 1-bit DACs. Both Sony and Philips has admitted the
problem and have come out with improved designs which use multiple
1-bit DACs. For example, the improved Sony High Density Linear
Converter System uses eight DACs and the improved Philips Bitstreem
DA Conversion System uses four 1-bit DACs (two for each channel).
It is also interesting that there is no Japanese model which
corresponds to the CLD-3090 or the CLD-2090 in the Japanese
laserdisc line. It seems that Pioneer thinks that those two designs
are not good enough for the Japanese consumer.

The only drawback with the CLD-95 is that it doesn't have a jog
shuttle on the unit and it doens't have that file function that
the CLD-3080 has (although I hardly used this function while I
had my CLD-3080). Overall, I would highly recommend the CLD-95
over any other laserdisc player since Pioneer is cutting back on
quality with their non-Elite laserdisc players and since other
manufacturers are having such a hard time making decent laserdisc
players.


Carey Kinoshita

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Apr 14, 1992, 3:15:57 AM4/14/92
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In article <rri6j...@agate.berkeley.edu> lc...@ocf.berkeley.edu (Lawrence Chiu) writes:

Oh, I forgot to mention that there is a jog shuttle on the remote.
The digital freeze is much better than that of the CLD-3080 and a lot
better than the CLD-3090 or the CLD-3070. The S-video circuit doesn't
blur the detail of the picture like the CLD-3080's S-video circuit does.
The CLD-95 doesn't have that Techni-Disc recognition problem and
doesn't have that black line problem that the CLD-3090 has. The CLD-95
doesn't have (to my knowledge) that door jamming problem that the
CLD-3070 and the Sony MDP-333 has. The CLD-95 doesn't have that CAV
disc recognition or disc stiction problem that the Panasonic LX-1000
has. It doesn't have the mechanism jamming problem that the Sony
laserdisc players except for the 333 and 505 have. It doens't have the
ideosynchrosies and quirks that the Kenwood 300 and 600 have. I
have no information about Philips or Denon laserdisc player though.

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