Anik C3 Ku on the air???
Craig Henrikson
strong Ku signal on a bird west of A2 and east of S5. The signal was on
channel 29 on my Drake, so I suspect transponder 30. Horiz. polarity.
The signal appeared to be color bars, but in a non-standard (PAL?)
format. Normal video overdrove my IRD, wiping out the digital display.
In reverse video, the bars were obvious, and sparkle free, but in B/W.
There was also a very strong audio carrier, but no audio. The bird
appeared to be at about 115 degrees, which looks like C3 at 114.9
degrees. Comments??
Craig
Robert Smathers
>Ok, I may be wrong, but at about 10:30 last night I found a very
>strong Ku signal on a bird west of A2 and east of S5. The signal was on
???? What is A2 and S5? That's what has confused me so far -- some
stupid notation -- not the god given names for the satellites.
> There was also a very strong audio carrier, but no audio. The bird
>appeared to be at about 115 degrees, which looks like C3 at 114.9
>degrees. Comments??
may not be Anik C3, IMHO.
As soon as I figure out from you the "bookend" satellites, I'll
do one more thing to try to see if it was anik c3 or not.
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e...@shore.net
>Craig Henrikson <cra...@capital.net> wrote:
>>Ok, I may be wrong, but at about 10:30 last night I found a very
>>strong Ku signal on a bird west of A2 and east of S5. The signal was on
I looked last night and today (Sunday afternoon) and I am getting a very weak
signal between Anik E1 and SBS-5. I have to go to narrow video bandwidth
and manual fine tuning to get the best picture. It looks like color bars (The
ones with the different colored blocks at the bottom).
I am getting it on the Drake on Channel 31. I called it E3 so the IRD selected
Anik format channels. It is on T31 (H) 12157 MHz.
I am using a 7.5ft mesh dish with a Drake 1824 and .7 LNB. Other satellites
come in ok so I guess the beam of this one does not favor New England.
73 Eric e...@shore.net
Gary Bourgois
>the guides refer to E1 as A2, and I would think you, of all persons
I appologise if tone came accross wrong. Tone does not convey well in
typed messages.
Tone was meant to be said in monotone with no emotion of any kind.
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Robert Smathers
>
>I looked last night and today (Sunday afternoon) and I am getting a very weak
>signal between Anik E1 and SBS-5. I have to go to narrow video bandwidth
>and manual fine tuning to get the best picture. It looks like color bars (The
>ones with the different colored blocks at the bottom).
did it stay or did it gradually fade away?
I can think of at least 1 other satellite with Ku-band in the region that
you might have been seeing (so an answer to my question could help
determine the most likely satellite you saw).
e...@shore.net
>did it stay or did it gradually fade away?
>
>I can think of at least 1 other satellite with Ku-band in the region that
>you might have been seeing (so an answer to my question could help
>determine the most likely satellite you saw).
Well I watched it for several minutes and it did seem to stay in there.
This signal was so weak that it did not increase the relative signal level
indicator by much and the Auto Fine Tuning did not seem to work. That is why
it came in better on Narrow BW with manual tunning. But it did not
fade out. I looked this morning and could not spot it again.
It seems like other people on the group reported a stronger signal then I did.
73 Eric e...@shore.net
e...@shore.net
>fade out. I looked this morning and could not spot it again.
>
>It seems like other people on the group reported a stronger signal then I did.
I see it this evening, but weaker. It is almost like I need my LNB cool to
see it.
73 Eric e...@shore.net
Darwin Teague
<tv...@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> wrote:
: >Gary -- I admit to being suprised at the tone of your letter. Many of
: >the guides refer to E1 as A2, and I would think you, of all persons
: I appologise if tone came accross wrong. Tone does not convey well in
: typed messages.
: Tone was meant to be said in monotone with no emotion of any kind.
Then why didn't you end with one of these? :-I
(I'm just kidding, Gary).
I can sympathize with the guy though, I have a Tracker 4 that uses A1
for E2 and A2 for E1, and the names are AD and A2! Then I have an old
Drake that has no "S". As long as people call them by their real names,
it's no worries. Which is your point....
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dave mcdonald
>
>In <4ehidh$g...@thales.nmia.com>, rob...@plato.nmia.com (Robert Smathers) writes:
>>did it stay or did it gradually fade away?
>>
>>I can think of at least 1 other satellite with Ku-band in the region that
>>you might have been seeing (so an answer to my question could help
>>determine the most likely satellite you saw).
>
>Well I watched it for several minutes and it did seem to stay in there.
>This signal was so weak that it did not increase the relative signal level
>indicator by much and the Auto Fine Tuning did not seem to work. That is why
>it came in better on Narrow BW with manual tunning. But it did not
>
>
It is BLASTING in here in the Vancouver BC area. Transponder 7 had
horse racing from Woodbain on it earlier, and then color bars till after
midnight EST. Now there is just a hint of a signal indicating that it is
inclined, and is now out of my view. (Not for long though, as soon as it
warms up, I am putting on a vertical kit.)
Craig Henrikson
the "real" names -- but your letter indicates the problem with the
Anik's -- and I thought that I was being "real". In any case, the
inclined bird appears to be C3. I wonder what Cancom has in mind for
it.
Craig
e...@shore.net
>did it stay or did it gradually fade away?
>
>I can think of at least 1 other satellite with Ku-band in the region that
>you might have been seeing (so an answer to my question could help
>determine the most likely satellite you saw).
Hello,
I got another data point as I tuned in Transponder 31 (H) at 2210 EST and
I am getting a P4 picture (some small sparkles). The blank audio carrier
at 6.2 is getting more quieter as time goes on (it is now 2220).
The level of static on the audio carrier and the number of sparkles seems to
go up and down in about a 1/2 second to 1 second rate. The signal strength
is weaker than E1 or E2 but it might be uplink power is lower.
The screen is white on the left side almost to the center. Then there is a
black vertical stripe, narrow white vertical stripe, black stripe, stripe made
up of color blocks, then scale bars of increasing intensity from black to almost
light green. No text and no activity on other transponders.
So it looks like this bird is inclined. The other sightings were around 7 and
8 PM. It looks like it is in the box around 10 to 11 pm (maybe slightly later).
I noticed in the SSSC that C3 is inclined, but I though the beams were
pointed down South American way. Could the Canadians have decided they
better keep it or does this bird have a hemispheric beam?
73 Eric e...@shore.net
dave mcdonald
>
>In <4ehidh$g...@thales.nmia.com>, rob...@plato.nmia.com (Robert Smathers) writes:
>
>>did it stay or did it gradually fade away?
>>
>>I can think of at least 1 other satellite with Ku-band in the region that
>>you might have been seeing (so an answer to my question could help
>>determine the most likely satellite you saw).
>
>Hello,
>
>
>black vertical stripe, narrow white vertical stripe, black stripe, stripe made
>up of color blocks, then scale bars of increasing intensity from black to almost
>light green. No text and no activity on other transponders.
>
>So it looks like this bird is inclined. The other sightings were around 7 and
>8 PM. It looks like it is in the box around 10 to 11 pm (maybe slightly later).
>
>I noticed in the SSSC that C3 is inclined, but I though the beams were
>pointed down South American way. Could the Canadians have decided they
>better keep it or does this bird have a hemispheric beam?
>
>
You saw it!
I thought this bird had been sold as well, but it may have been the other
old one. I read something awile back about C3 being an inclined spare.
I saw horse racing on it last night. This race track used to light up E1 (Ku)
daily. It now appears to have moved to this bird. Wasn't the 2 old birds called
Anik D1 and D2? I may be wrong, as that was before I was into TVRO myself but
used to work for a cable co, and we always refered to them as the D series.
dave mcdonald
>
>Craig Henrikson <cra...@capital.net> wrote:
>>Ok, I may be wrong, but at about 10:30 last night I found a very
>may not be Anik C3, IMHO.
>
>As soon as I figure out from you the "bookend" satellites, I'll
>do one more thing to try to see if it was anik c3 or not.
It was. Woodbain park horse racing have been using transponder 7.
Test pattern is up NOW on transponder 7. (Using ANIK format)
Gary A. Dunn
days. I am located in central California.
gary
Bill Jones (n3jlq)
> > >Ok, I may be wrong, but at about 10:30 last night I found a very
> >
> > REALLY talking about.
> >
> > I don't care if people put made up names in their IRD, but when posting to
> > the group, you really need to use the God Given Names.
> >
>
> Gary -- I admit to being suprised at the tone of your letter. Many of
> the guides refer to E1 as A2, and I would think you, of all persons
> incidentally.
I'd have to agree here. There obviously are no "GOD GIVEN" names to
any of these sats, and the people criticizing others for not using the
"GOD GIVEN" names still insist on using C1 for Satcom I. I think, as you
suggest, as long as you communicate what sat you are referring to, there
shouldn't be a problem, and in my opinion, you did this fine. Also, A2 makes
as much sense than E2 or E1, although A1 might be better. My IRD doesn't
have E, and neither did it have D, but it does have A, for ANIK. If there
is anything resembling a GOD GIVEN name, it is Anik E-1, and A1 or A2 is just
as good of an abbreviation for this as anything. The real argument as far
as I'm concerned is whether it should be called A1 or A2. I know that
the old slot was A2, but to avoid confusion, and to use letters and
numbers that both appear in the sats name as well as are available to
all IRDs, I think A1 would be the best compromise, but the big argument
when this came up was between using A and E rather than the numbers, and
the "A" wins hands down as far as I am concerned.
> By S5, I was referring to SBS 5, the Ku satellite at 123
> degrees.
I must admit that the S5 had me confused a bit, but only because you
skipped a couple sats in between.
> Given that I also estimated the longitude of the satellite,
> I'll bet you could have figured it out.
I agree.
Gary Bourgois
>I thought this bird had been sold as well, but it may have been the other
>old one. I read something awile back about C3 being an inclined spare.
>I saw horse racing on it last night. This race track used to light up E1 (Ku)
>daily. It now appears to have moved to this bird. Wasn't the 2 old birds called
>Anik D1 and D2? I may be wrong, as that was before I was into TVRO myself but
>used to work for a cable co, and we always refered to them as the D series.
I programmed it in this morning. It is really really there!
Mike Nassour
> >You saw it!
> >I thought this bird had been sold as well, but it may have been the other
> >old one. I read something awile back about C3 being an inclined spare.
> >I saw horse racing on it last night. This race track used to light up E1 (Ku)
> >daily. It now appears to have moved to this bird. Wasn't the 2 old birds call
ed
> >Anik D1 and D2? I may be wrong, as that was before I was into TVRO myself bu
t
> >used to work for a cable co, and we always refered to them as the D series.
>
>
> I programmed it in this morning. It is really really there!
>
> --
> / Gary Bourgois, WB8EOH, The Birdwatcher: Marquette Michigan USA \
And I'll bet the footprint on this one doesn't reach Texas either.
Sigh....
Mike Nassour
Paul Johnson
>The level of static on the audio carrier and the number of sparkles seems to
>go up and down in about a 1/2 second to 1 second rate. The signal strength
>is weaker than E1 or E2 but it might be uplink power is lower.
I recall seeing a 1 second flucuation on the Anik A series birds
back in the early 1980's. The explanation was that the
electronics rotates with the bird and the antenna is despun so it
always points at the earth. A rotating waveguide joint connects
the two. With time the joint gets worn, causing a variation in
signal strength that matches the rotation speed of the bird.
[snip]
>So it looks like this bird is inclined. The other sightings were around 7 and
>8 PM. It looks like it is in the box around 10 to 11 pm (maybe slightly later).
>I noticed in the SSSC that C3 is inclined, but I though the beams were
>pointed down South American way. Could the Canadians have decided they
>better keep it or does this bird have a hemispheric beam?
>73 Eric e...@shore.net
Anik C3 is at 114.8 degrees and is inclined 3.7 degrees. On
1/31/96 it crosses the equator at about 10:24 a.m. and 10:22 p.m.
EST. These times will occur 3 minutes and 56 seconds earlier each
day.
It is still in use by Canada. There are 16 15 watt Ku
transponders. They can be switched between 1/4 Canada, 1/2
Canada, and whole Canada beams. There is no hemispheric beam.
Anik C1 is at 71.8 degrees and is not inclined. Anik C2 is at
75.8 degrees. It is inclined 3.5 degrees. These two birds were
moved to their current locations for use by Argentina.
Paul
WB6SJM
pjoh...@aoc.nrao.edu
taylor
set up
robert gordon
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 10:35:21 EST
>From: Gary Bourgois <tv...@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
>Subject: Re: Anik C3 Ku on the air???
>>You saw it!
>>I thought this bird had been sold as well, but it may have been the other
>>old one. I read something awile back about C3 being an inclined spare.
>>I saw horse racing on it last night. This race track used to light up E1 (Ku)
>>daily. It now appears to have moved to this bird. Wasn't the 2 old birds called
>>Anik D1 and D2? I may be wrong, as that was before I was into TVRO myself but
>>used to work for a cable co, and we always refered to them as the D series.
>I programmed it in this morning. It is really really there!
>--
> / Gary Bourgois, WB8EOH, The Birdwatcher: Marquette Michigan USA \
> ([-o Keeper of The r.v.s.t. FAQ, Wildfeeds List, and Radio Guides o-])
> \ fl...@lopez.marquette.mi.us REALAUDIO SITE AT: http://ttn.nai.net/ /
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Ooops, I wasn't paying attention. Where is this bird located and do I use an
Anik format for naming it. Also what transponder is active?
robert...@sandiegoca.attgis.com
Gary Bourgois
>Anik format for naming it. Also what transponder is active?
>robert...@sandiegoca.attgis.com
Between E2 and SBS5.
I use the ANIK format. Depending on your receiver check:
16 17 30 31
One of those will have the test signal. It was there just now. On my system
(Drake 1824) it is on 31.
Yours will be different.
Just use the SCAN mode in your receiver that's how I found it.