Panamax Surge Protectors Read the fine print before you buy

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Bob Lyle

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Nov 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/18/97
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If they mean a brown-out as in a DROP in voltage they're right. Surge
suppressors are not regulators. In other words they cannot protect against
undervoltage conditions.

Proper protection in that instance would only be provided by a mini-UPS with
it's own inverter and battery pack much like is used on PeeCee systems these
days.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph E. Ergas <ralph...@WEBTV.NET>
To: HOM...@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU <HOM...@LISTSERV.NODAK.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, November 18, 1997 8:29 AM
Subject: Panamax Surge Protectors Read the fine print before you buy


>Recently my TVRO sustained damage from surges which was diagnosed by two
>electrical tecnicians; so I informed Panamax and sent them the bills
>after filling out their forms . They sent me another unit but told me
>nothing was wrong with my old unit . Panamax claimed the damages were
>probaly due to "brownouts" and their warranty did not cover this type of
>surge . Now I must say I am not a physicist but just a stereo/BUD
>enthusiast and buy a product based on recomendations . IMHO Panamax
>defaulted on their warranty . Trying to deal with them was next to
>impossible ; their representative is always " away from my phone or
>helping another customer . Please leave a message " They never return
>your call in a timely fashion . Am I dissatisfied with Panamax ? .......
>You bet I am!!!!!! Before you buy read the small print or buy another
>product !! Anyone else out there have similiar complaints about Panamax
>

W. D.

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Nov 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/18/97
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Unbelievable!!!!! I had almost the exact same experience about 4 years ago.
My old EDSI hard disk and controller card was zapped by some sort of=20
surge. It cost me about $400 in repairs. I sent them a copy of the=20
repair report, which indicated an overload. They said that it wasn't=20
the fault of their surge suppressor, but to make sure, would I send=20
the unit to them. I did. =20

After a number of weeks of not hearing=20
anything from them, I called to find out what the story was. They=20
said that the surge suppressor was just fine and my problems had nothing
to do with the unit. At this point I was quite peeved since it cost
me hundreds, and they wouldn't admit to it being their fault. I asked
them to send back my unit. They said they would. I never received it.
I called and they again said that it was sent out. I asked them to=20
trace the shipment. They said that they would try or something like that.
Each 'go round' was initiated by me, not them. I never even got the=20
surge suppressor back to have it checked out by an independent source.

After about 5 or 6 weeks, I wrote a letter to the Attorney General of=20
California to complain. Still didn't get any kind of satisfaction.

So, for all those who are thinking about buying PanaMax, think again.
In my opinion, based on my experience, this outfit is crooked. Buyer
beware!!!!! My suggestion to anyone:=20

Never, never, never, ever, ever buy anything from PanaMax, unless you like
getting ripped off!!!

For your info, the address to write with complaints is:

Public Inquiry Unit
State of California - Attorney General's office
P. O Box 944255
Sacramento, CA 94244-2550
Phone: 916-445-9555

But it probably won't do you any good!


At 07:44 11/16/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Recently my TVRO sustained damage from surges which was diagnosed by two
>electrical tecnicians; so I informed Panamax and sent them the bills
>after filling out their forms . They sent me another unit but told me
>nothing was wrong with my old unit . Panamax claimed the damages were
>probaly due to "brownouts" and their warranty did not cover this type of
>surge . Now I must say I am not a physicist but just a stereo/BUD
>enthusiast and buy a product based on recomendations . IMHO Panamax
>defaulted on their warranty . Trying to deal with them was next to
>impossible ; their representative is always " away from my phone or
>helping another customer . Please leave a message " They never return
>your call in a timely fashion . Am I dissatisfied with Panamax ? .......
>You bet I am!!!!!! Before you buy read the small print or buy another
>product !! Anyone else out there have similiar complaints about Panamax
>

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power surges spikes=20
electrical environments protect against catastrophic catastrophy massive
power surges lightning
downed power lines earthquakes hurricanes other disasters protectors filter
filters unwanted noise=20
voltage line equipment maximum efficiency.
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Protection COPIERS
(ANALOG) COPIERS (DIGITAL) FAX MACHINES GENERAL AC Audio Video Protection
STEREO=20
COMPONENTS TV / VCR SPEAKERS CONVERTERS ACCESSORIES Computer Network
Protection=20
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ENTRANCE PROTECTION International Products PRODUCTS FOR INTERNATIONAL=20
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MOUNT=20
KIT Lifetime warranty
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protect sensitive electronic electrical equipment damage caused cause
power surges spikes=20
electrical environments protect against catastrophic catastrophy massive
power surges lightning
downed power lines earthquakes hurricanes other disasters protectors filter
filters unwanted noise=20
voltage line equipment maximum efficiency.
Computer Protection COMPUTERS MODEMS PRINTERS PERIPHERALS Office
Protection COPIERS
(ANALOG) COPIERS (DIGITAL) FAX MACHINES GENERAL AC Audio Video Protection
STEREO=20
COMPONENTS TV / VCR SPEAKERS CONVERTERS ACCESSORIES Computer Network
Protection=20
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SERVICE=20
ENTRANCE PROTECTION International Products PRODUCTS FOR INTERNATIONAL=20
CUSTOMERS 120+240 VOLTS Accessories SECURITY KIT AC EXTENSION CORD RACK
MOUNT=20
KIT Lifetime warranty
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
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PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
protect sensitive electronic electrical equipment damage caused cause
power surges spikes=20
electrical environments protect against catastrophic catastrophy massive
power surges lightning
downed power lines earthquakes hurricanes other disasters protectors filter
filters unwanted noise=20
voltage line equipment maximum efficiency.
Computer Protection COMPUTERS MODEMS PRINTERS PERIPHERALS Office
Protection COPIERS
(ANALOG) COPIERS (DIGITAL) FAX MACHINES GENERAL AC Audio Video Protection
STEREO=20
COMPONENTS TV / VCR SPEAKERS CONVERTERS ACCESSORIES Computer Network
Protection=20
ETHERNET ARCNET TOKEN RING APPLETALK Satellite Protection DBS C / KU BAND=
=20
AMPLIFIED ANTENNA Telecom Protection MODULAR KSU & PERIPHERALS DATA & VOICE=
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SERVICE=20
ENTRANCE PROTECTION International Products PRODUCTS FOR INTERNATIONAL=20
CUSTOMERS 120+240 VOLTS Accessories SECURITY KIT AC EXTENSION CORD RACK
MOUNT=20
KIT Lifetime warranty
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
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suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
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suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
protect sensitive electronic electrical equipment damage caused cause
power surges spikes=20
electrical environments protect against catastrophic catastrophy massive
power surges lightning
downed power lines earthquakes hurricanes other disasters protectors filter
filters unwanted noise=20
voltage line equipment maximum efficiency.
Computer Protection COMPUTERS MODEMS PRINTERS PERIPHERALS Office
Protection COPIERS
(ANALOG) COPIERS (DIGITAL) FAX MACHINES GENERAL AC Audio Video Protection
STEREO=20
COMPONENTS TV / VCR SPEAKERS CONVERTERS ACCESSORIES Computer Network
Protection=20
ETHERNET ARCNET TOKEN RING APPLETALK Satellite Protection DBS C / KU BAND=
=20
AMPLIFIED ANTENNA Telecom Protection MODULAR KSU & PERIPHERALS DATA & VOICE=
=20
UNLIMITED CAPACITY LEASED & T1 LINES Modular Protection UNLIMITED AC AND=20
ADDITIONAL SIGNAL LINE COMBINATIONS Service Entrance Products ELECTRICAL
SERVICE=20
ENTRANCE PROTECTION International Products PRODUCTS FOR INTERNATIONAL=20
CUSTOMERS 120+240 VOLTS Accessories SECURITY KIT AC EXTENSION CORD RACK
MOUNT=20
KIT Lifetime warranty
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
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PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
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PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
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PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
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PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
PanaMax =AE surge suppressor transient voltage suppression PanaMax =AE surge
suppresser PanaMax =AE=20
protect sensitive electronic electrical equipment damage caused cause
power surges spikes=20
electrical environments protect against catastrophic catastrophy massive
power surges lightning
downed power lines earthquakes hurricanes other disasters protectors filter
filters unwanted noise=20
voltage line equipment maximum efficiency.
PanaMax =AE =AE

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