Why isn't USB 2.0 used to transfer?
Gotta get rid of this stuff!
motherboard seems to have it. Why woulnd't camcorders use it if its so
common? What are the advantages of Firewire?
Donald Link
I am not sure but I think firewire will transfer Video and Audio at
the same time and rate.
Netmask
the protocols for USB 2 were finalised. USB 1.1 was far too slow to be
considered as a viable standard.
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luminos
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Absolutely brilliant, guy. So you are an expert. I think? Idiot.
BR549
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USB 2.0 is supposed to be around the same speed as Firewire. Every new
motherboard seems to have it. Why woulnd't camcorders use it if its so
common? What are the advantages of Firewire?
Don't know what camera's you've looked at but a quick glance at the Canon
and Panasonic website showed quite a few models that do both firewire and
usb.
Colon Terminus
One advantage of Firewire is that two firewire devices can be connected
together and communicate with each other without benefit of a computer.
A big disadvantage is that Firewire isn't well supported by Windows
Operating Systems.
A whole lotta camcorders support USB 2.0, limit your selection to one of
those.
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Chris
> One advantage of Firewire is that two firewire devices can be connected
> together and communicate with each other without benefit of a computer.
>
> A big disadvantage is that Firewire isn't well supported by Windows
> Operating Systems.
>
> A whole lotta camcorders support USB 2.0, limit your selection to one of
> those.
>
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When a camera has both firewire and usb interfaces, I'll always use
firewire. I haven't had any trouble using firewire cameras with windows.
Eric Gisin
only 12Mb/s, half of DV's 25Mb/s. Why change when firewire works so well?
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world situations Firewire is superior.
> The reason Firewire took off around 1998 was DV cameras. At that time USB
was
> only 12Mb/s, half of DV's 25Mb/s. Why change when firewire works so well?
>
Donald Link
Again another ass who is positive that he knows and no one else does.
The only solution and reply he has is to reply like a 10 year old
instead of offering a reason for his objection to a reply that stated
that I was not sure. However, one thing I am sure of is that you are
and ass.
luminos
You obviously do not have a clue how moronic your response was.
Donald Link
>
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>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:25:15 -0800, "luminos" <log...@trip.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Donald Link" <li...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>>>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:13:04 -0600, "Gotta get rid of this stuff!"
>>>> <that...@noemail.please> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>USB 2.0 is supposed to be around the same speed as Firewire. Every new
>>>>>motherboard seems to have it. Why woulnd't camcorders use it if its so
>>>>>common? What are the advantages of Firewire?
>>>>>
>>>> I am not sure but I think firewire will transfer Video and Audio at
>>>> the same time and rate.
>>>
>>>Absolutely brilliant, guy. So you are an expert. I think? Idiot.
>>>
>> Again another ass who is positive that he knows and no one else does.
>> The only solution and reply he has is to reply like a 10 year old
>> instead of offering a reason for his objection to a reply that stated
>> that I was not sure. However, one thing I am sure of is that you are
>> and ass.
>
>You obviously do not have a clue how moronic your response was.
>
Jerk off idiot. How that for moronic response!
luminos
Mutley
Also Firewire gives you full camera control and CPU overhead is allot
less than USB..
quietguy
the USB buss - whereas Firewire doesn't have that issue
David
quietguy
memory card, and firewire for xferring the movies that are on tape. That
definately applies to the i730/750 series anyway
David
quietguy
works the way it should. No idea about other versions of windows tho
David
seascape
non-Apple no matter how good it is.
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seascape
firewire more appealing is when you have multiple firewire devices. When
chaining of firewire they cross communicate without sending through the
processor first, which translates to real-world speed advantage to firewire.
If you only have 1 firewire device [much like SCSI] USB2 can hold its own.
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Lawrence DąOliveiro
"seascape" <seascape@_hotmail.com> wrote:
>USB2 is physically faster than [F]irewire.
I've never seen any real-world measurements to back this up. All the
figures indicate the opposite.
>What makes
>[F]irewire more appealing is when you have multiple [F]irewire devices.
And connections are peer-to-peer, no master/slave business. USB has
different connectors for the two ends, but for FireWire the connectors
are the same.
Colon Terminus
Absolutely NOT an Apple user, a dyed in the wool Windows user. It's just
that I've encountered sooo many problems trying to use external Firewire
hard drives. They simply don't work well for MANY people and the problem is
in Windows, not with Firewire. The problem has been known for a long time
and is well documented, but it is STILL in XP SP/2.
Read this article:
http://www.bustrace.com/products/delayedwrite.htm
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Donald Link
I think the Firewire drive problems are more related to the hardware
than the operating system. I have used external firewire cases ME-320
that sell for about 35 dollars, more or less, and have both USB and
Firewire outlets and can even be chained I have used ide drives from
6 gigs up to 250 gigs and even DVD burners from a half dozen venders
and have yet to run accross a problem in any versions of Win2K or XP.
Probably the best thing to do is to stay away from non standard cases
and drives. Thankfully. they are far and few between unless they are
older hardware. Problems can be found with a lot of hardware if you
look far enough.
PolarLight
> Absolutely NOT an Apple user, a dyed in the wool Windows user. It's just
> that I've encountered sooo many problems trying to use external Firewire
> hard drives. They simply don't work well for MANY people and the problem
> is
> in Windows, not with Firewire. The problem has been known for a long time
> and is well documented, but it is STILL in XP SP/2.
UH? I've NEVER had any problems with my external FireWire HD, which is now 3
yrs old. First it got connected to a Win2K PC, then to an XP (no SP) PC & XP
laptop, it also works like a charm with my new XP SP2 PC. Just plug it in...
Only 'problem' I could see is trying to connect it to 2 computers @ the same
time, that never worked, always had to disconnect it from the first one to
get the second one to see it.
There are so many of these devices around, there may be some cheapo models
with problems...
Eric Gisin
That documents broken 1394-ATA bridges that crash on writes over 128KB. There
is registry parameter, MaxTransferSize for the sbp2port driver, but no
documentation.
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