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Perception PVR will Not be supported unde Win XP

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Tom Avel

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Dec 3, 2001, 2:47:40 PM12/3/01
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I just got some shocking news from DPS:

"WinXP is not a recommended OS for the PVR, and we will not be coming
out with a driver."

Gee, so much for supporting an expensive product, used by many
professionals.

Dennis Milller

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Dec 3, 2001, 3:18:07 PM12/3/01
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This could change - they have used this line before, in particular with
Premiere 6.0 One can also hope that some 3-rd party develops drivers (out of
my league, but not out of the question.) Of course if they receive enough
noise from users, there's always the possibility they would do it
themselves.
But except for existing files, I'm completely off the PVR. Lots of better
options these days.
D.

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Tom Avel

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Dec 3, 2001, 4:20:02 PM12/3/01
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I hope you are right. I certainly would be willing to pay. But DPS
should do it. If they don't I certainly would never buy anything from
them again. Perception is not that old?

Can you suggest some of the better options? I need a board that can
capture and output component video like Perception can.

nappy

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Dec 3, 2001, 4:34:20 PM12/3/01
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I bought my PVR in 96. I have seen them for sale as low as $300. I recently
sold mine with the captiure card and drives. It was a great card.. BUT when
I sent shots out from it European markets had a hard time with the signal.
In terms of capture cards it is quite old. DPS did their best I am sure. I
doubt they will do anything to help the users left out there... Best of
luck.

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David McCall

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Dec 3, 2001, 6:27:17 PM12/3/01
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>
> I hope you are right. I certainly would be willing to pay. But DPS
> should do it. If they don't I certainly would never buy anything from
> them again. Perception is not that old?
>
Yes it is. When I bought my Perception (PVR) to replace my
Personal Animation Recorder (PAR), a Pentium 100 was near
the top of the line and 3/4" tape decks wer still being sold and
widely used for broadcast. That was a long time ago, in
technology. I've been quite surprised that they have supported
it as long as they have.

> Can you suggest some of the better options? I need a board that can
> capture and output component video like Perception can.
>

Digisuites are pretty good. There is a wide range of models,
and options, to choose from.

David

Craig Townsend

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Dec 3, 2001, 7:31:07 PM12/3/01
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Try using the W2K driver patch- it's very possible it will work. Be
sure NOT to reboot after installing the drivers until you have done
the W2K patch since the system won't come back up unless you use the
"Use Last Good Configuration" option or do what I did- remove the
card, boot up, do the patch and then reinstall the PVR. Yep, those
readme's sometimes have important info and I wished I had paid more
attention when I read that one. :-)

Craig


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Mike Kujbida

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Dec 3, 2001, 9:46:46 PM12/3/01
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Funny that this topic should come up here. I just finished reading postings
on the exact same issue in the comp.graphics.apps.lightwave NG. I'll post
Mark Dunakin's response in its entirety. BTW, the binaries group Mark
refers to is alt.binaries.3d.lightwave. Hope it helps.

Mike Kujbida

Oh ya, just a note here. If XP is anything like 2000 then you want to
install
like this:
Install your pvr software, but then "DON'T" reboot!
Then, do this:
Installing under Windows 2000
-----------------------------

If the PVR software has not been installed yet: Run the Perception Release
2.61 installer. When asked to reboot, say no. Navigate to your
WINNT\System32\Drivers directory. Delete the DpsPvr.sys there and replace
it
with the one in this zip file. Reboot.

If the PVR software has already been installed: The old PVR driver does not
operate under Windows 2000 and bluescreens on boot up. Therefore, you have
two
options: If you can access your WINNT\System32\Drivers directory from
another
partition or from another OS, you can replace the old DpsPvr.sys file with
the
new one in this zip file and reboot. Or, you can boot with "Last Known Good
Configuration" and reinstall the Perception software, then replace the
DpsPvr.sys file before rebooting. Use the driver in the i386 folder.

Note: When the Perception hardware is first installed, Windows 2000 will
prompt you for drivers. You may simply cancel these prompts and continue
with
normal installation.

Good luck!
The drivers patch is over in the binaries group.
......................md : )


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Dennis Milller

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Dec 3, 2001, 10:55:26 PM12/3/01
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The NewTek Toaster handles uncompressed video but you'll need a very fast
drive array to go along with it. I can't really see any benefit for using
the newer DPS stuff, though keep in mind that the Toaster relies entirely on
the host CPU for processing. Also better check to see where they stand with
XP...

D.

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Tom Avel

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Dec 4, 2001, 10:49:08 PM12/4/01
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>dougd...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Get real. This product is almost 10 years old, and used ones are going on ebay
>for under $600.
Well i got mine in 96 so its only 5 years old to me. For a piece of
equipent that costs over 3000 with hard drive, I haven't even finished
depreciating the cost. I could understand not supporting it if it was
10 years from the date they Stopped selling it, which it is not.


>DPS came out with drivers for Win2000, and if you really have
>one you want to keep using with a good OS, use that.
Uh? winxp is built upon the win 2000 kernal. And in many tests it
outperforms it.


Radiobyfm9

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Dec 7, 2001, 1:05:35 AM12/7/01
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>> "WinXP is not a recommended OS for the PVR, and we will not be coming
>> out with a driver."
>>
>> Gee, so much for supporting an expensive product, used by many
>> professionals.
>>


Hey, it'll still work great as a poor man's clipstore in the studio....Loops
backgrounds pretty good. Fun time-lapse device. I've even used it to do
slow-mo replays with on football games...And at the end of the game, you can
make a quick highlight clip....And that's all without even touching Adobe
Premier, or other software.

I'm not that upset it's not gonna be supported...Heck, I'm surprised they
supported this long!

And when I do run out of uses for it, I'll hang it up on my wall as my first
NLE...Just to show the kids what we had to use to edit video with before they
invented NLE's on a Wristwatch..

John@Shine-ola

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Dec 8, 2001, 12:55:17 AM12/8/01
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Amen to that! Most PVR users are just thankful that DPS decided to provide
drivers for Premiere 6. The PVR was and is a very stable NLE. I still use
one at home even though I've moved on to a DPS Velocity at work.

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