Calling all JVC Camcorder owners

[Steve T]

What a nightmare, I have just spent the last 4 hours trawling through
the internet trying to get information on JLIP. I have noticed many
posts to this and other newsgroups all asking for help but I never see
any answers. If you can help, I would appreciate it

I have recently purchased a GR-DVF10 (I wish I hadn't) and I am
reasonably pleased with its performance, OK its a bit bulky and has no
DV in/out but hell! you get what you pay for. I am currently using a TV
card to capture video and stills through S video output but quality is
very poor. I really want to see how Jlip can help me get good stills
from the camera and help with video editing.

This camera has a jlip socket and the cable supplied is a small jack to
small jack. I have read that I need two things to get Jlip working with
my PC and camera

Hardware - Jlip to RS232 connector
Software - JVC JLIP Video Producer (for video editing) AND/OR JLIP Video
Capture (for Still captures)

Please can someone confirm this !!! I have seen at lot written about a
connector box, do I need this or will the cable be sufficient ???

I really need to know where I can get the hardware as I have noticed
that the software is available at
http://www.jvc.de/html/faq/Download/software/22/

Does anybody know of a supplier who could help ? OR does anybody have
the hardware I need for sale ? OR Is anybody out there who has made
their own cable from the instructions I have found at
http://www.baur-denzinger.de/support and would like to make one for me.

Please help and lets see if we can get the questions answered to help me
and everybody else struggling to understand JLIP.

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[George Houben]

> I have recently purchased a GR-DVF10 (I wish I hadn't) and I am
> reasonably pleased with its performance, OK its a bit bulky and has no
> DV in/out but hell! you get what you pay for. I am currently using a TV
> card to capture video and stills through S video output but quality is
> very poor. I really want to see how Jlip can help me get good stills
> from the camera and help with video editing.
>
> This camera has a jlip socket and the cable supplied is a small jack to
> small jack. I have read that I need two things to get Jlip working with
> my PC and camera
>
> Hardware - Jlip to RS232 connector
> Software - JVC JLIP Video Producer (for video editing) AND/OR JLIP Video
> Capture (for Still captures)
>
> Please can someone confirm this !!! I have seen at lot written about a
> connector box, do I need this or will the cable be sufficient ???
>

You wil need the video capture box from JVC, thats the only way to do the
trick.
See for more info
http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/english/cyber/contents/peripheral/index.html
This will answer all your questions.

George

[richar...@my-deja.com]

Steve,

I have an unused kit containing all the pieces you're looking for. I'm
happy to sell it to you for what it cost me (£50) plus shipping from
the UK. I've thrown away most of the packaging, but I've not even
unwound any of the cables.

Richard Baum

In article <8dn8me$mj2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Steve T <tom...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> What a nightmare, I have just spent the last 4 hours trawling through
> the internet trying to get information on JLIP. I have noticed many
> posts to this and other newsgroups all asking for help but I never see
> any answers. If you can help, I would appreciate it
>

> I have recently purchased a GR-DVF10 (I wish I hadn't) and I am
> reasonably pleased with its performance, OK its a bit bulky and has no
> DV in/out but hell! you get what you pay for. I am currently using a
TV
> card to capture video and stills through S video output but quality is
> very poor. I really want to see how Jlip can help me get good stills
> from the camera and help with video editing.
>
> This camera has a jlip socket and the cable supplied is a small jack
to
> small jack. I have read that I need two things to get Jlip working
with
> my PC and camera
>
> Hardware - Jlip to RS232 connector
> Software - JVC JLIP Video Producer (for video editing) AND/OR JLIP
Video
> Capture (for Still captures)
>
> Please can someone confirm this !!! I have seen at lot written about
a
> connector box, do I need this or will the cable be sufficient ???
>

[Peter Feiler]

JLIP is a connection that allows you to control the camera's functions
from the PC (e.g., play, rewind, go to a timecode).
The box you would buy takes your video out from the camera and captures
a digital image.
It is no different than a video capture card except that it contains
software that can take a video image and deinterlace it.

Peter

[David Winter]

JLIP will basically only let your PC control the camcorder. It serves much
the same purpose as LANC.

The video producer aspect is basically PC controlled linear editing - cuts
only I expect.

But beyond those generalisations, I can't help you - sorry.

DW

"Steve T" <tom...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8dn8me$mj2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
: What a nightmare, I have just spent the last 4 hours trawling through

[Terry Anderson]

Steve,
I have a JVC GR DVL40, this comes with the Video Producer and VIdeo Capture
software, a JLIP cable for those that have a JVC VCR with JLIP, assorted
other software from MR Presto for post capture still work.

Importantly the other cables it has are:
PC connection cable (RS232 to Camera)
Editing cable (JLIP)
Audio/Video cable (RCA to RCA)
DC cord
S-Video cable.

Using the PC connection cable allows video capture and still capture. The
editing software for video is very basic and merely reassembles assets
(scenes) into the order you want and adds transitions. You may aslo set
various AE at this stage if you haven't done so while recording, but thats
all. NO TITLES, NO AUDIO manipulation (although you can dub a basic sound
track if you recorded in 32khz).

So the JLIP is not required, the software and the PC cable is if you only
want to do the basic things these allow. JVC sell this kit as HS-V4KIT -
check the web site for prices and what else may be included. Personally I do
not think the extra expence would be worth it, better off with a third party
card/software combo that allows more flexability and expansion for what you
may do later on. Either way, if you have a DV in/out you can go for the
iLink (IEEE 1934 or Firewire) card, or the analogic cards.

good luck
Tez

[Steve T]

http://www.jvc-victor.co.jp/english/cyber/contents/peripheral/index.html
> This will answer all your questions.
>
> George
>
>

Thanks for the link, the information has proved useful however it would
appear that the connector box is a little more than I actually need. I
have a jlip socket on the camera which I should be able to link directly
to the PC. One of the other posters has recomended a kit supplied by
JVC so I will be investigating further.

One thing I can promise that once I get to the bottom of this I will be
posting details...

Steve

--

[Cynthia Johnson]

David,

The more recent models of the JVC cameras include both the JLIP and the
normal 1394 link. The JLIP is used for still image capture to the serial
port of the computer using a device provided with the camcorder. The first
of these I had seen shipped with the GR-DVL9500. Other models had the JLIP
port but did not ship with the necessary cable...go figure. A friend of mine
in Bermuda went to great lengths to try and find the cable to no avail. He
soon abandoned the camcorder.

David Winter <win...@icenet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3901...@usenet.per.paradox.net.au...

> JLIP will basically only let your PC control the camcorder. It serves much
> the same purpose as LANC.
>
> The video producer aspect is basically PC controlled linear editing - cuts
> only I expect.
>
> But beyond those generalisations, I can't help you - sorry.
>
> DW
>
> "Steve T" <tom...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:8dn8me$mj2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> : What a nightmare, I have just spent the last 4 hours trawling through
> : the internet trying to get information on JLIP. I have noticed many
> : posts to this and other newsgroups all asking for help but I never see
> : any answers. If you can help, I would appreciate it
> :
> : I have recently purchased a GR-DVF10 (I wish I hadn't) and I am
> : reasonably pleased with its performance, OK its a bit bulky and has no
> : DV in/out but hell! you get what you pay for. I am currently using a TV
> : card to capture video and stills through S video output but quality is
> : very poor. I really want to see how Jlip can help me get good stills
> : from the camera and help with video editing.
> :

> : This camera has a jlip socket and the cable supplied is a small jack to

> : small jack. I have read that I need two things to get Jlip working with
> : my PC and camera
> :
> : Hardware - Jlip to RS232 connector
> : Software - JVC JLIP Video Producer (for video editing) AND/OR JLIP Video
> : Capture (for Still captures)
> :
> : Please can someone confirm this !!! I have seen at lot written about a
> : connector box, do I need this or will the cable be sufficient ???

> :
> : I really need to know where I can get the hardware as I have noticed
> : that the software is available at
> : http://www.jvc.de/html/faq/Download/software/22/
> :
> : Does anybody know of a supplier who could help ? OR does anybody have
> : the hardware I need for sale ? OR Is anybody out there who has made
> : their own cable from the instructions I have found at
> : http://www.baur-denzinger.de/support and would like to make one for me.
> :
> : Please help and lets see if we can get the questions answered to help me
> : and everybody else struggling to understand JLIP.
> :
> : --

> : Notes Bloke aka Steve Tomkins

[Steve T]

Many thanx Tez. I will see if I can track down this Kit from JVC.

Thanks

Steve

> > This camera has a jlip socket and the cable supplied is a small jack
to
> > small jack. I have read that I need two things to get Jlip working
with
> > my PC and camera
> >
> > Hardware - Jlip to RS232 connector
> > Software - JVC JLIP Video Producer (for video editing) AND/OR JLIP
Video
> > Capture (for Still captures)
> >
> > Please can someone confirm this !!! I have seen at lot written
about a
> > connector box, do I need this or will the cable be sufficient ???
> >

[David Winter]

There are recent JVC DV camcorders which like the old Pan AG-EZ1 lacked DV
in/out 1394 ports. Silly!

And to think there I was encouraging JVC's top brass to push Digital-S down
into the prosumer field witha 1394 equipped model. They'd omit the CD-ROM
with driver code!

DW

"Cynthia Johnson" <cy...@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in message
news:icRM4.1536$eI5.3...@news3.atl...
: David,

: > : This camera has a jlip socket and the cable supplied is a small jack

to
: > : small jack. I have read that I need two things to get Jlip working
with
: > : my PC and camera
: > :
: > : Hardware - Jlip to RS232 connector
: > : Software - JVC JLIP Video Producer (for video editing) AND/OR JLIP
Video
: > : Capture (for Still captures)
: > :
: > : Please can someone confirm this !!! I have seen at lot written about
a
: > : connector box, do I need this or will the cable be sufficient ???

: > :
: > : I really need to know where I can get the hardware as I have noticed

: > : that the software is available at
: > : http://www.jvc.de/html/faq/Download/software/22/
: > :
: > : Does anybody know of a supplier who could help ? OR does anybody have
: > : the hardware I need for sale ? OR Is anybody out there who has made
: > : their own cable from the instructions I have found at
: > : http://www.baur-denzinger.de/support and would like to make one for
me.
: > :
: > : Please help and lets see if we can get the questions answered to help
me
: > : and everybody else struggling to understand JLIP.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Notes Bloke aka Steve Tomkins
: > :
: > : email Tom...@my-deja.com
: > : http://www.homestead.com/tomkins_zone/home.html
: > :

: > :
: > : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
: > : Before you buy.
: >
: >
:
:

[David Winter]

So JLIP is also a serial data link for d/l stills to the PC's serial port,
noted. The camcorder is of course controlled by the PC during this process.

The comments were about JVC's proclivity to leave useful bits out - like a
1394 port on one recent PAL model (to achieve a price point - it was
pointless) and the JLIP cable on another.

I trust you are happy with your JVC.

DW

<steven...@bigfootnoreply.com> wrote in message
news:3tiigsooagh8fr7g5...@4ax.com...
: What is it you guys want? No, a capture card does not come with the
: JVC camera, at least the one I bought a few months ago, the JVC
: GR-DVF31U, but it has the JLIP and I plug my camera into Com1. I
: happen to have a Matrox Marvel G400 Video card with lots of software
: to do video editing. The confusion here in these posts leads me to
: believe people are very confused about what the camcorders do, and do
: not understand the RS 232 ports, and that most camcorders do not come
: with video capture cards, The software included with my model JVC does
: what has already been explained by others in this and other related
: posts. I can capture the still and do some very basic video editing to
: the video while still in the camera itself. If you want to do more and
: want to use your computer you will need to buy more hardware and
: software for your computer. I cannot speak for other models of cameras
: because I do not own one of the other models. If I repeated anything
: already re-hashed sorry, but it looks like people are still confused.
: --------
: stevenscott
: san diego
: -----------
: -----------------------------------------------
:
: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 01:39:21 +0800, "David Winter"
: <win...@icenet.com.au> wrote:
:
: >There are recent JVC DV camcorders which like the old Pan AG-EZ1 lacked

: >:
: >:
: >
:

[Matthias Ritscher]

I seem to have a very similar problem not having a JLIP cable
camcorder to PC with my JVC GR-DVL-20. Is this a simple cable as
shown on a picture of HS-V4KIT and who can give me the
connection of pins or is it a device as indicated in
http://www.baur-denzinger.de/support?

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[geraldm...@my-deja.com]

This cable is only for uploading fotos, and probably requires the JVC
software. It plugs in to the printer port I believe, but you would be
better of with a firewire card. ADS Pyro for about $70 is a better way
to go. Even an analog capture board might be a better and cheaper way
to go.

In article <08b56757...@usw-ex0102-015.remarq.com>,
Matthias Ritscher <matthias.rit...@med.siemens.de.invalid>
wrote: