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Steve Silverman

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Jun 28, 2008, 4:33:47 AM6/28/08
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I am fairly new to video editing, and am having to assimilate a lot of
information very quickly. I have just acquired a Panasonic hard-disk
camcorder that stores video in MPEG-2 format, and my editing software is
Adobe Premiere Elements. I would like to be able to save my edited video
without further compression, and without the attendant massive increase in
file size that would be caused by saving as a .avi file. I suspect that
this isn't possible using Premiere Elements. If I am correct, is there any
other way of accomplishing this?

All advice very gratefully received.

Steve Silverman

Netmask

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Jun 28, 2008, 7:12:45 AM6/28/08
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It is possible as a stream copy as long as there are no added in fx. if
there are just straight cuts and deletions you should be able to do a stream
copy without any recoding. You can do this in Womble and a number of other
packages however I have no experience in Adobe premiere elements - you would
have to do a search of the help file for keywords like stream copy etc.

In Womble if you insert fx like cross fades then the whole file would be
recoded however a work around that is to insert splits either side of the fx
which keeps the recoding to a minimum. If you were working with clips this
would achieve the same result.


Troppo

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Jun 28, 2008, 8:05:21 AM6/28/08
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"Netmask" <netmask...@gmail.com> wrote in
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Others - free ones:
Mpeg Streamclip - www.squared5.com
Mpg2cut2 - http://www.geocities.com/rocketjet4/
Will both mark and assemble clips. Streamclip will also remove items such
as edge noise, but the recoding takes a while and only seems to work in
.avi export on my rig.
VLC video player - www.videolan.org - is also supposed to be able to stream
to a file.
I use WinAVI Video converter - www.winavi.com - which isn't free but only
$US30. (I paid for version 8 which hangs on my system but the registration
worked for 7.6). Will clip and clean up noise, and is fast enough (3 hours
for a 2 hour sequence) on a PIII 1Gb 512Mb PC.

Ken Maltby

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Jun 28, 2008, 11:11:16 AM6/28/08
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"Steve Silverman" <ssil...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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There are several editing packages that can edit natively in MPEG.
This is normally done with "Smart Rendering" and/or a proxy preview
for applied effects. There are full editing programs, in the same price
range as Elements, available from Ulead and Magix.

http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/

They have a number of localized sites, switch to yours if you are
not posting from the USA.

Luck;
Ken



Smarty

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Jun 28, 2008, 5:46:42 PM6/28/08
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Steve,

VideoReDo Pro is a superb "cuts only" mpeg2 editor which is simple to use,
has zero impact of quality since there is absolutely no recompression, and
is fast and easy to use. Try the demo version and check it out. I have
virtually all of the lower cost editing programs here including Premiere,
Ulead, Pinnacle, Magix, Nero, Power Director Ultra, as well as some high end
editors like Vegas and Final Cut Pro, and I find myself frequently using
VideoReDo to quickly edit mpeg2 both for DVDs as well as high def content.


Smarty


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Steve Silverman

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Jul 1, 2008, 4:58:49 AM7/1/08
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Many thanks to those who offered advice in response to my question. It
looks as though VideoReDo Pro is the way for me to go.

Steve Silverman

Smarty

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Jul 1, 2008, 9:33:29 AM7/1/08
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Good luck Steve and let us know how it all works out.

Smarty


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Ken Maltby

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Jul 1, 2008, 11:32:02 AM7/1/08
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"Steve Silverman" <ssil...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Many thanks to those who offered advice in response to my question. It
> looks as though VideoReDo Pro is the way for me to go.
>
> Steve Silverman

There is a VideoReDo Plus and there is a VideoReDo TVSuite, but I
have not heard of a VideoReDo Pro.

Personally I think VideoReDo is an essential tool for anyone working
with MPEG.

The new VideoReDo TVSuite has some added features that can make
a quick job of producing a DVD from your camcorder video, but to do
any complex editing with effects and composition you would need a full
featured editor. The Elements you mentioned earlier would be an example
of a limited, entry level, "full" featured Editing program. The Ulead and
Magix products I mentioned are more geared to MPEG editing and have
additional features.

VideoReDo TVSuite could be exactly the thing for those simple
recordings of vacation adventures and family functions or the kids
growing up. You can make something interesting very quickly and
get it to those who would be interested. The simple editing you can
do with this approach certainly beats what my dad's 8mm film home
movies were, and they captured some very treasured moments.

There is nothing to prevent you from starting out with a good "Cut
Editing" tool, keeping your original unedited files and then later, after
you are comfortable with that, see what you can/ want to do with a
more complex editing program and process.

Luck;
Ken


Rick Merrill

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Jul 4, 2008, 6:32:09 PM7/4/08
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in womble a 2 second cross fade only requires that particular 2 second
section to be recoded.

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