Vreveal software, can't get it to do MPGs :(
jmc
get it to open mpg files
or anything else (avi,divx,mp4). The only file
type it recognized was wmv.
Which I have no use for.
Even tho the online reviews (of the trial version
which watermarks
the video you process) state that it will do mpgs.
The only limit I have read of is a vertical res.
limit of 576 pixels.
My dvd files should be no problem.
Oh, and it is the first program I've found that
will (finally) use more then
3 cpu cores. (85-95 percent) of my 9450 Quad core. :)
Now if I can only get it to process my mpgs I'll
probably buy it.
http://www.vreveal.com/download
(uses the GPU if you have a NEW Nvidia card
sigh, I have ATI)
Thanks,
jmc
Ken Maltby
"jmc" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Pretty much all the CURRENT versions of the major encoding
programs, will make use of multiple cores. There are a number
that have included the ability to use the "Cuda" capabilities of
some newer Nvidia cards.
For instance TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress:
http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te4xp.html
or:
http://www.elecard.com/products/products-pc/consumer/converter-studio/
(currently $190 with a 21% discount [don't know when that ends])
You will probably want this "Consumer" version, there is an AVCHD
version with a number of limitations compaired to this version.
jmc
> Pretty much all the CURRENT versions of the
major encoding
> programs, will make use of multiple cores.
There are a number
> that have included the ability to use the
"Cuda" capabilities of
> some newer Nvidia cards.
>
> For instance TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress:
>
>
http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te4xp.html
>
> or:
>
>
http://www.elecard.com/products/products-pc/consumer/converter-studio/
> (currently $190 with a 21% discount [don't
know when that ends])
> You will probably want this "Consumer"
version, there is an AVCHD
> version with a number of limitations compaired
to this version.
Yes, most of my programs will use 3 cores but none
till Vreveal would use
the 4th core.
Am downloading "elecard" now.
Just hope that it will "smart encode" and not
waste time rendering a dvd that
does not need it.
Can't wait till next year with window 7 64bit,
DX11 and "open cl" that will NOT depend on
a specific brand of GPU for programing. (hope I
got "openCL" correct)
Might be worth getting several cheaper video cards
if this works like I hope.
Thanks,
jmc
Ken Maltby
> Ken Maltby wrote:
> > Pretty much all the CURRENT versions of the
> major encoding
> > programs, will make use of multiple cores.
> There are a number
> > that have included the ability to use the
> "Cuda" capabilities of
> > some newer Nvidia cards.
> >
> > For instance TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress:
> >
> >
> http://tmpgenc.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/te4xp.html
> >
> > or:
> >
> >
> http://www.elecard.com/products/products-pc/consumer/converter-studio/
> > (currently $190 with a 21% discount [don't
> know when that ends])
> > You will probably want this "Consumer"
> version, there is an AVCHD
> > version with a number of limitations compaired
> to this version.
>
>
> Yes, most of my programs will use 3 cores but none till Vreveal would use
> the 4th core.
>
> Am downloading "elecard" now.
> Just hope that it will "smart encode" and not waste time rendering a dvd
> that
> does not need it.
>
That makes no sense. The Elecard product I referenced is an
encoding/transcoding program, not a DVD Authoring program.
It distinguishes itself in the H.264 realm, and shares a history,
with partners like Moonlight Cordless and MainConcept AG,
in bringing H.264/AVC to the promenient position it currently
holds. ( It can create the best AVC/H.264 FLV, for net or
mobile device use, IMHO.) It has a number of templates/
"profiles" for MPEG-2 DVD, including 6 "Authoring" profiles,
so you can use one of those, (since you can't define the needed
parameters, with out understanding what the settings are for).
It is a tool for a number of A/V manipulations that relate to
basic encoding/transcoding, its output profiles are all
customizable and include:
DV:
Microsoft DV25 480i60
Microsoft DV25 576i50
Editing:
AVI Uncompress
MPEG-2 (interlaced) I-frame only
MPEG-2 (progressive) I-frame only
MPEG-2:
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray 480i60 Wide
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray 480i60
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray 480p24 Wide
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray 480p24
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray 576i50 Wide
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray 576i50
The same as above for MPEG-2 DVD
then again for MPEG-2 DVD Authoring
MPEG-2 HDV-1 480p60
MPEG-2 HDV-1 576p50
MPEG-2 SVCD Authoring 480i60
MPEG-2 SVCD Authoring 576i50
MPEG-2 HD:
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 1080i50 HDV-2
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 1080i50
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 1080i60 HDV-2
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 1080i60
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 1080p24
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 720p24
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 720p50
MPEG-2 Blu-Ray HD 720p60
MPEG-2 HDTV 1080i50
MPEG-2 HDTV 1080i60
MPEG-2 HDTV 720p50
MPEG-2 HDTV 720p60
MPEG-2 HDV-1 720p25
MPEG-2 HDV-1 720p30
MPEG-2 HDV-1 720p50
MPEG-2 HDV-1 720p60
MPEG-2 HDV-2 1080i50
MPEG-2 HDV-2 1080i60
MPEG-2 HDV-2 1080p24
MPEG-2 HDV-2 1080p25
MPEG-2 HDV-2 1080p30
MPEG-2 XDCAM EX 1080i50
MPEG-2 XDCAM EX 1080i60
MPEG-2 XDCAM EX 720p50
MPEG-2 XDCAM EX 720p60
MPEG-4 AVC:
AVC Blu-Ray 480i60 Wide
AVC Blu-Ray 480i60
AVC Blu-Ray 480p24 Wide
AVC Blu-Ray 480p24
AVC Blu-Ray 576i50 Wide
AVC Blu-Ray 576i50
AVC Custom Baseline Profile
AVC Custom High Profile
AVC Custom Main Profile
AVC DVD 480i60
AVC DVD 576i50
MPEG-4 AVC HD
AVC AVCHD 1080i50
AVC AVCHD 1080i60
AVC Blu-Ray HD 1080i50 HDV-2
AVC Blu-Ray HD 1080i50
AVC Blu-Ray HD 1080i60 HDV-2
AVC Blu-Ray HD 1080i60
AVC Blu-Ray HD 1080p24
AVC Blu-Ray HD 720p24
AVC Blu-Ray HD 720p50
AVC Blu-Ray HD 720p60
AVC HDV-1 720p24
AVC HDV-1 720p25
AVC HDV-1 720p30
AVC HDV-2 1080i50
AVC HDV-2 1080i60
Portable:
3GPP AVC CIF
3GPP MPEG-4 CIF
3GPP MPEG-4 QCIF
Adobe Flash FLV AVC 1280x720
Adobe Flash FLV AVC 320x240
Adobe Flash FLV AVC 480x360
Adobe Flash FLV AVC 640x480
Adobe Flash FLV AVC 852x480
AVC Apple iPhone
AVC Apple iPod 5G
AVC Apple iPod Touch
AVC Apple iPod
AVC Apple TV
AVC Sony Playstation3 1080p24
AVC Sony Playstation3 1080p25
AVC Sony Playstation3 1080p30
AVC Sony Playstation3 480i60
AVC Sony Playstation3 576i50
AVC Sony Playstation3 720p50
AVC Sony Playstation3 720p60
AVC Sony PSP 320x240
AVC Sony PSP 368x208
AVC Sony PSP 640x480
AVC Sony PSP 720x480
Transform:
1080i50 to 720p50 (fast)
1080i50 to 720p50 (quality)
720p50 to 1080i50
720p60 to 1080i60
Now I know you will find that the software not being
able to read your mind and automaticaly/"Smartly" render
what you want; probably makes it unsuitable for your
needs, so you shouldn't consider such an inferior program.
Luck;
Ken
jmc
SNIPS
>>
>> Am downloading "elecard" now.
>> Just hope that it will "smart encode" and not waste time rendering a dvd
>> that
>> does not need it.
>>
>
> That makes no sense. The Elecard product I referenced is an
> encoding/transcoding program, not a DVD Authoring program.
> It distinguishes itself in the H.264 realm, and shares a history,
> with partners like Moonlight Cordless and MainConcept AG,
> in bringing H.264/AVC to the promenient position it currently
> holds. ( It can create the best AVC/H.264 FLV, for net or
> mobile device use, IMHO.) It has a number of templates/
> "profiles" for MPEG-2 DVD, including 6 "Authoring" profiles,
> so you can use one of those, (since you can't define the needed
> parameters, with out understanding what the settings are for).
>
SNIP
>
> Now I know you will find that the software not being
> able to read your mind and automaticaly/"Smartly" render
> what you want; probably makes it unsuitable for your
> needs, so you shouldn't consider such an inferior program.
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
>
>
Sorry, seem to be getting into the smart/dumb
program situation
and my use of the term DVD.
I am at fault here in my sloppy use of terms.
I poorly used the term dvd in referring to the
files I work with.
What I was referring to was "dvd quality" mpg files.
I do not store my flies as dvd vobs in a video_ts
folder
Everything is stored as a "dvd quality" mpg and
later converted into H264 files.
So the "elecard" program does not do simple
cut/splice and only is a
program to convert files from one format to another...
I incorrectly thought of it as an editing program
not as a pure converting program.
And when I say "editing" I mean a program that
does a lot more then just format
conversion.
Smart/dumb... I think we did agree that we both
prefer a program to not automatically make
unwanted changes to the material we are trying to
work with.
Hen, I tend to write knowing what I mean in my own
mind...
Will have to try to watch my use of what maybe
technical terms more closely.
thanks,
jmc
Ken Maltby
>
<<Snip>>
>
> What I was referring to was "dvd quality" mpg files.
>
> I do not store my flies as dvd vobs in a video_ts folder
> Everything is stored as a "dvd quality" mpg and later converted into H264
> files.
>
I use basicly the same procedure to capture TV series
for storage and retrival off my home LAN. Except that
the capture is as "DVD quality .mpg files" then trimmed
of commercials using VideoReDo before encoding to
AVC/H.264 for storage. (Since no higher quality
archival copy is needed for such material. It is not for
use in later projects.) I find that a high quality AVC
compression can provide small storage files that contain
enough video data density to allow for SD video that
can be "upconverted" on the fly into 720p HD video, of
a quality visually very simmular to the original digital TV
source.
As I tried to express before, Elecard has a distinguished
place in the development and successful use of H264,
both commercialy and for the community at large.
> So the "elecard" program does not do simple cut/splice and only is a
> program to convert files from one format to another...
>
Like almost all encoding programs, you can define a
part of the source to be encoded (Cut) and will "Splice"
together any number of compatable clips in the same
project. Just by adding them to the project. Not, of
course, with the ease of the frame accurate cutting and
joining of MPEG in VideoReDo. (The encoders
handle a wider range of video formats as source,
though.)
> I incorrectly thought of it as an editing program not as a pure converting
> program.
> And when I say "editing" I mean a program that does a lot more then just
> format
> conversion.
>
Editing is something an Editor (a person) does using a
range of tools. At its simplest, most basic, it is a Cut
and Splice process. It is like "painting", in that the term
covers artistic efforts that range from Tom Sawyer's
picket fence to the Mona Lisa. The practical and
mundane as well as highly creative productions.
Combining Editing, Rendering, and Encoding into
one integrated tool, may simplify a workflow but it
is a practice some of us find very restrictive.
That said, to each his own. You may find a program
that gets you closer to the "One Button" approach you
appear to be more comfortable with at:
www.videohelp.com
They have a Tool search feature to give you listings
that include a number of helpful features, including
user comments.
> Smart/dumb... I think we did agree that we both prefer a program to not
> automatically make
> unwanted changes to the material we are trying to work with.
>
True, but all programs have to make some basic
assumptions, with regards as to what is presented
as the default operation. It is up to the user to make
any adjustments to that, needed to meet their needs.
Luck;
Ken