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Not

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Feb 15, 2007, 12:49:04 AM2/15/07
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Hello,
I'm using Adobe Premiere Elements 2.0 and I'm having some problems
when burning sporting events to DVD. The problem: The sporting events,
which look good as MPEGs full-screen on the computer, look choppy and
terrible when encoded onto DVD and played on a TV. It doesn't matter
whether the clip is short and uses the max size on DVD or is long - they
all look bad. Does anyone have some hints / suggestions for me on how to
improve my burned-DVD quality? Specifics (especially how to change a
setting in Premiere) would be greatly appreciated.

Ray S

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Feb 15, 2007, 11:56:06 AM2/15/07
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1. What is your source material. Got from where? What format? File
specifics?

PTravel

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Feb 15, 2007, 12:33:26 PM2/15/07
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"Not" <n...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:45D3F4...@nospam.com...

Sounds like the field order is reversed. Make sure it is set to lower field
first.


Ray S

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Feb 15, 2007, 3:06:25 PM2/15/07
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I hear this mentioned alot. I have to say that this is something that
has never happened to me. Media I use always seems to be in the default
field order format (Lower field first I think??)

So, it seems strange to me that this would happen to others. Don't get
me wrong, I'm not quibbling. I'm just musing. Oddly enough though, I can
recall several instances where 'reverse field order' was the advise
given and the OP wrote back saying thanks.

I suppose if I'm going to ask a real question, I should ask - Does most
media use one default, and if so, why and how did it become the default?

PTravel

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Feb 15, 2007, 3:19:00 PM2/15/07
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"Ray S" <ma...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> PTravel wrote:
>> "Not" <n...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:45D3F4...@nospam.com...
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm using Adobe Premiere Elements 2.0 and I'm having some problems
>>> when burning sporting events to DVD. The problem: The sporting events,
>>> which look good as MPEGs full-screen on the computer, look choppy and
>>> terrible when encoded onto DVD and played on a TV. It doesn't matter
>>> whether the clip is short and uses the max size on DVD or is long - they
>>> all look bad. Does anyone have some hints / suggestions for me on how to
>>> improve my burned-DVD quality? Specifics (especially how to change a
>>> setting in Premiere) would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Sounds like the field order is reversed. Make sure it is set to lower
>> field first.
>
> I hear this mentioned alot. I have to say that this is something that has
> never happened to me. Media I use always seems to be in the default field
> order format (Lower field first I think??)

It happened to me fairly often when I first start editing using Pinnacle
Studio, and then Studio 7. It never happened once I switched to Premiere
(and now Premiere Pro). I don't know whether it's because Premiere
recognizes the source and adjusts field order accordingly, or (equally
likely), I was fooling around with settings in Studio that, at the time, I
didn't understand.

>
> So, it seems strange to me that this would happen to others. Don't get me
> wrong, I'm not quibbling. I'm just musing. Oddly enough though, I can
> recall several instances where 'reverse field order' was the advise given
> and the OP wrote back saying thanks.

Also, I can't think of many other conditions that would produce a similar
effect. In fact, the only thing I can think of is some filter that changes
the relative frame right (Premiere has one -- I don't recall what it's
called, but I've had occassion to use it). It's a case of Occam's Razor --
the simplest explanation is usually the right one.

> > I suppose if I'm going to ask a real question, I should ask - Does most
> media use one default, and if so, why and how did it become the default?

I can't answer that and, for that matter, I can't think of why it might be
desireable to change the field order. I'm curious to know the answer as
well.

>


Frank

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Feb 15, 2007, 7:22:11 PM2/15/07
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:19:00 -0800, in 'rec.video.desktop',
in article <Re: Premiere Elements Choppy Action on DVD>,
"PTravel" <ptr...@travelersvideo.com> wrote:

>> > I suppose if I'm going to ask a real question, I should ask - Does most
>> media use one default, and if so, why and how did it become the default?
>
>I can't answer that and, for that matter, I can't think of why it might be
>desireable to change the field order. I'm curious to know the answer as
>well.


As I understand it, in the SD (standard definition) world, there's no
real standard. It could be top field first or it could be bottom field
first, depending upon how the video was sourced, digitized, captured,
etc.

In the HD (high definition) world, the standard (ATSC, EBU, etc.) is
that the upper field is always first. I know of no exceptions to this.

--
Frank, Independent Consultant, New York, NY
[Please remove 'nojunkmail.' from address to reply via e-mail.]
Read Frank's thoughts on HDV at http://www.humanvalues.net/hdv/

DanR

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Feb 18, 2007, 12:40:41 PM2/18/07
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"Frank" <fr...@nojunkmail.humanvalues.net> wrote in message
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Happened to me when I xfered from DirecTV Tivo DVR to DVD and then imported
those DVDs into Premiere Elements 2. Symptoms are that static shots sort of
look OK but camera pans are really weird.
To the OP... I reversed the field dominance of "every" clip and it fixed the
problem. I don't know if there is a way to reverse FD for entire show at
once.

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