Re: How to publish HD video on Web and protect it?
Martin Heffels
>How can I impose such limitations?
Get a streaming server. This prevents the whole file from being transferred
to a hard-disk. But, there are programs which can capture screen-content,
like Camstasia, which you can't beat.
cheers
-martin-
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Kill Bill
> Hi all,
>
> I've produced some high-def videos and I want people
> to be able to watch them on my website, but I may want
> to prevent downloads and I certainly want to prevent
> them from editing them.
>
> How can I impose such limitations?
>
> HD uploads or even sales, but they have no answers,
> it's like talking to a rock.
>
> Thanks.
As far as protection.. It can't be done. Sorry.
You can make it hard, but nothing is fullproff.
-kill
Jukka Aho
> Get a streaming server. This prevents the whole file from being
> transferred to a hard-disk. But, there are programs which can
> capture screen-content, like Camstasia, which you can't beat.
The stream itself can be easily captured with either specialized
programs (of which there are plenty for both Windows Media and Real
Media streams) or, say, Mplayer. No need to resort to screen-grabbing.
--
znark
Bill Fright
Pallas wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've produced some high-def videos and I want people
> to be able to watch them on my website, but I may want
> to prevent downloads and I certainly want to prevent
> them from editing them.
>
> How can I impose such limitations?
>
> I have asked Google Video if they will ever permit
> HD uploads or even sales, but they have no answers,
> it's like talking to a rock.
>
> Thanks.
>
Put a nice big bug with your company logo well inside title safe.
Harlan Messinger
> Hi all,
>
> I've produced some high-def videos and I want people
> to be able to watch them on my website, but I may want
> to prevent downloads and I certainly want to prevent
> them from editing them.
>
> How can I impose such limitations?
You can't. Playing IS downloading. If the data isn't being downloaded,
the computer can't play it.
rwap
Pallas wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've produced some high-def videos and I want people
> to be able to watch them on my website, but I may want
> to prevent downloads and I certainly want to prevent
> them from editing them.
>
> How can I impose such limitations?
>
I guess you could also look at Java video streaming such as provided by
www.forbidden.co.uk - ok, so the java stream could be captured and
replayed, but it would also include the player and you can add an icon
/ link as part of the controls which pop up when the cursor goes over
the top of the video.
Not sure how HD video would look though, but you could always discuss
this with forbidden technologies - they are very helpful (no, I don't
work for them)
Rich Mellor
www.internetbusinessangels.com
Andy Mabbett
Pallas <frigi...@comcast.net> writes
>I've produced some high-def videos and I want people to be able to
>watch them on my website, but I may want to prevent downloads and I
>certainly want to prevent them from editing them.
>
>How can I impose such limitations?
Yes, invite people round to your place to view them on your computer.
--
Andy Mabbett
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ushere
> In message <1156611408.9...@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> Pallas <frigi...@comcast.net> writes
>
>> I've produced some high-def videos and I want people to be able to
>> watch them on my website, but I may want to prevent downloads and I
>> certainly want to prevent them from editing them.
>>
>> How can I impose such limitations?
>
> Yes, invite people round to your place to view them on your computer.
>
>
not a good idea from the audiences point of view - it's embarrassing
getting up in the middle of the program to throw up / go home to bed /
whathaveyou...
arty
http://www.omniweb.com/ to encode and stream my stuff.
DVD Workshop
One of the easiest ways to protect the video clips you place on your
web site from being copied and displayed on other sites is to add a
video bug.
Most video on the web is either flash, windows media (wmv), or real
(rm) format.
And while there are steps you can take to make copying video in these
formats a little more difficult, most of the anti-copy methods are
easily defeated.
The reality is that any video or audio that can be viewed on the web,
can be copied from the web.
Yes, you can significantly reduce the opportunity for video to be
copied by placing it within a members only area. But still, that video
can be copied by your site members - if they know what they are doing.
So what is a video bug?
In the case of the TV networks, a video bug is the placement of their
logo on the screen throughout most broadcasts.
Regardless of where the video bug is placed on the video, it makes it
extremely easy to determine where the video originated. And while
anyone who makes a copy of the video can remove the video bug, it
leaves an obvious 'hole', thus making it readily apparent that the copy
is a copy.
This same strategy of adding a video bug to identify the source of a
video can work for you. If done correctly, the video bug can even drive
traffic to your web site - by those who might want to copy your videos
and place them on their own web sites.
By branding your web videos with your own video bug, you can reduce the
temptation for others to steal your videos, while at the same time
increasing the chance that video clips purloined from your site might
actually drive traffic to your site.
To do this, you would want to include a video bug in the form of a link
to your web site. The graphic should not be so obvious as to detract
from the video, but should be noticeable enough that the viewer clearly
knows where the video came from.
To get the best results when adding a video bug with a link to your web
site, you want the link text to be white, with a slight shadow (black
in color).
You want to set the opacity of the video bug quite low, to make it
almost transparent.
By taking just a minute to create the video bug, anyone who views the
video will clearly know where the video came from.
When creating video for the web, it is a good idea to include a video
bug with a text link to your web site. Doing this will discourage
others from copying your videos and placing them on their web sites
without your permission.
In the cases where the videos are copied (with or without your
permission), the video bug can drive traffic back to your web site.
Whether or not to include a video bug on DVDs is another matter. In
most cases, it may be a better strategy to selectively include video
bugs throughout the production (perhaps on end of chapter graphics
pages).
If you fail to include video bugs, it will become more and more
difficult to claim your rights to the videos you publish on the web -
especially as more and more sites add video libraries of clips found on
other sites.
Adding a video bug is easy - and something you should consider doing
with your web videos.
Hope that has been of some help to you,
Pete
http://www.trade-secrets.org/dvdworkshop
10 DVD Library Set revealing everything you need to know to create,
produce, shoot, edit, author, design and market you own DVDs. Presented
by Bill Myers.
arty
William Tasso
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> DVD Workshop wrote:
>> ...
>> Adding a video bug is easy - and something you should consider doing
>> with your web videos...
> thats a long winded way to say watermark
I guess you must be posting from one of the 'video' groups where such info
is commonly known. Frankly, over here in AWW land we don't get many vid
experts hanging out and I, for one, found the post by Mr/Ms DVD Workshop
informative and interesting.
Of course, I have no idea if the content was accurate but the lack of
critical detail in the reply indicates the substance is sound.
--
William Tasso
One Life, Live It.
arty
of video and also made image galleries so thats where my knowledge came
from. if you want me to leave the group, just say so. however, proper
terminology helps everyone.
Andy Dingley
> i've never once heard the term "video bug" used.
I've heard it used, but rarely in this sense, and never in relation to
web streaming. I think the term used to be used in TV. I've always
called them watermarks too. Please excuse the crusty regulars who are
far too fond of flaming, even when it's unwarranted (Is there suddenly
an Idiot Shortage, if you're looking for targets?)
NB - There are two sorts of watermark, visible and invisible. If you're
serious about this, look it up. You'll probably be wanting to use both.
Visible are good at discouraging blagging, invisible are good at
proving things after you've caught the blagger. It's sometimes
particularly useful if every copy gets a unique invisible watermark -
then you can track just _who_ let their copy get copied.
Martin Heffels
wrote:
>I've heard it used, but rarely in this sense, and never in relation to
>web streaming. I think the term used to be used in TV. I've always
>called them watermarks too.
Watermark is a printing term, while videobug is used in, uhm well,
television (staion-id).
>Visible are good at discouraging blagging, invisible are good at
>proving things after you've caught the blagger. It's sometimes
>particularly useful if every copy gets a unique invisible watermark -
>then you can track just _who_ let their copy get copied.
Invisible watermarks in video can easily be removed by re-rendering the
video, which shuffles the bits around, making the hidden watermark
disappear again. Obviously, if they are hiddin in a safe area, where one
can put specific user-data, which is "outside" the video-information, this
won't happen. But a geek can find those areas in publications, and simply
write an eraser.
cheers
-martin-
--
arty
shooting and encoding for the web, watermark is now the common term.
either way, this is the best way to
#1- secure your video
#2- brand your video
branding is more important then most ppl realize. so if you to tag it
and it gets out its not a total lose b/c ppl wil see your logo/url and
check out your site generating more traffic for you.
Martin Heffels wrote:
> On 31 Aug 2006 08:55:19 -0700, "Andy Dingley" <din...@codesmiths.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I've heard it used, but rarely in this sense, and never in relation to
> >web streaming. I think the term used to be used in TV. I've always
> >called them watermarks too.
>
> Watermark is a printing term, while videobug is used in, uhm well,
> television (staion-id).
>
>
>
> -martin-
> --
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Dear sir,
There is also something called a Creative Commons License that lets you
set the regulations for use of the file, although you can't stop the
file from being taken. It is just a technical and legal way of leasing
your video for temporary use (only for viewing, I am assuming). You
can read more about it at the Creative Commons web site.
I have the honor to remain your most humble and Ob't Sv't in our war
against the King.
--
Patrick Reilly
1st Coy.
Colonel Seth Warner's Regiment
Steven Nagy
So what are the non-video regions? Are you talking about that vertical
and horizontal extra lines stuff? (I think, called 'VINS' ?)
>From what I've gathered from this thread, the best way to secure is to
:
A) Put watermark in the non video regions
B) Put invisible watermark in the normal video region
C) Put visible watermark (bug) in the normal video region with a link
to my site.
D) Stream it.
With the "bug" concept, could the user simply chop off the bottom, and
a matching (4:3 or 16:9) number of lines on the side so as to keep the
video to the same proportions? Then no one would know it was ever
bugged. Unless you stick it in the centre, in which case people will
think it interferes with the video.
Also, whats the laws about video ownership? If I discover my video
being claimed by someone else, can I sue their ass?
Also, what about shared key/certificate concepts? I know WMP has a
licencing server. Could I not keep the content encrypted, even on PC
that it is downloaded to, and the user needs certificate to view it?
Thats what they do at www.liverpoolfc.tv.
Annoys the hell out of me....
SN
ineed...@gmail.com
people say. it would most likely be settled out of court and you might
get some banner placement on their sites. you can do what you want like
www.liverpoolfc.tv.
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