Video Capture Device Not Detected -- No Video Device Available
Ray Woodcock
I previously took a quick look through a number of postings and found
no solution. I am now taking another cut at it. This time I am
proceeding more deliberately and writing down my findings in detail,
for my own reference and for anyone else with the same problem.
I am posting this message to several newsgroups in which other users,
cited below, have raised this same problem in connection with Windows
XP.
Windows Movie Maker (WMM)
-------------------------
Some people trying to use WMM 2 have gotten this message:
"A video capture device was not detected. Verify that a device is
turned on and connected properly, and then try again."
I got that message in WMM 1 (version 5.1) when I clicked on the
"Capture from video device" option.
Several such users posted this problem in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.video. One such user, George, said he was
using a Sony DCR-PC110 DV Cam and a Dazzle Fast DV-Now lite Firewire
capture card when he got this error. He said he could capture without
any problem by using Premiere 6.0 and Dazzle's Fast Forward program.
I wondered whether George's combination of alternate hardware and
software would work for me. I assumed he meant Adobe Premiere.
Lowest price for Premiere on PriceGrabber.com: $399 for full product.
I had a hard time finding that Dazzle product. George was writing
from the UK. The sites I found mentioning that product were mostly
German; it appeared to cost at least E270; and the product may no
longer be available. See e.g.,
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/e90051829/Dazzle_DV_now_AV_basic_FAST_forward_Software_zum_Capturen_and.asp.
Conclusion: I can't solve this problem by spending a lot of money to
get a piece of hardware that may not even be available new anymore.
Another user said, "Whenever I try to capture video in Adobe Premiere
6, my system reboots itself."
Several other users in that same newsgroup (also running WinXP) found
that Sony MovieShaker worked just fine when WMM 2 did not. The answer
in one case was that WMM 2 does not capture MPEG2 output, which the
user's Sony MicroMV device would produce. Another user had the same
problem with a Sony DCR-IP55E, which I guess was not outputting MPEG2.
Unlike George (above), this user found that Adobe Premiere didn't
work either, and guessed that the problem was that MovieShaker used
drivers that would overwrite the Adobe and WMM 2 drivers upon
installation.
This raised the question of whether less was more -- whether maybe
installing just one program would be the solution. I decided to
experiment with uninstalling and reinstalling software after reviewing
other postings on the problem.
I also decided to try WMM 2, which evidently did not get installed
automatically when I installed WinXP and downloaded all those updates.
I downloaded WMM 2 from
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/moviemaker/downloads/moviemaker2.asp.
I was also curious about Sony MovieShaker. I couldn't find it at
PriceGrabber or Tucows. Evidently it ships only with Sony hardware
(and possibly only wiht outdated hardware at that). See e.g.,
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/-/-/-/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=PCVRZ26G&CategoryName=ObsoleteProducts.
It sounds like a good but limited program. See
http://www.internetvideomag.com/articles2002/AutomaticVideoEditing.htm.
Another user, JohnC, said he had the problem using a Sony DCR-IP7E.
Someone suggested just ignoring the "video capture device was not
detected" error message, but JohnC said that didn't work. There were
no other suggestions.
CyberLink PowerDirector Pro 2.5
-------------------------------
This program came with my video hardware. As with WMM, above, when I
selected the "Capture Analog Video" option in PowerDirector, I got the
following error message:
"There is no video device available or the plug 'n' play video device
is not connected properly. Please check and try again later."
I found no postings mentioning that message and PowerDirector.
Miscellaneous Hardware and "No Video Device Available"
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I tried browsing the forums at VCDHelp.com but didn't find anything
specific on this problem.
Searching only for "no video device available," I got a half-dozen
hits.
One user said s/he had no problem doing video capture under Win98 or
WinXP using Studio7 software with (Pinnacle Studio?) DC10+ video
conferencing hardware. That, too, appears (from pinnaclesys.com) to
be a "Legacy Product." This user said that the "no video device
available" error message arose only under WinXP, and only when using
MSN or Netmeeting for his/her videoconferencing. Nobody offered a
reply explanation.
Another user got the error message when plugging in a Panasonic NV
DS11 DV camcorder. Apparently he had this problem with WMM and/or
Windows Media Player. He, too, received no reply.
In a thread addressing a similar error message under Win98, one user
suggested enabling interrupts through the jumper pins on the video
card. Another, who was using the same hardware and having no problem,
said, "Check your BIOS to be sure that it doesn't assign an IRQ for
VGA or else you could get into conflict problems."
Back in 1995, the System Manager at the Center for Telecommunications
Research at Columbia University reported the same error message with a
couple different pieces of hardware. He attributed it to software
incompatibilities. He said, "Fixing the problem could easily be a
matter of just tweaking a few lines of code in each program, but
apparently nobody's gotten around to it yet."
Another user said, "I have a Audigy sound card with an ilink
conection. I think the system recignises the ilink because in device
manager there is a section OHCI compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller.
However the ilink automatically sets its self up as a network adapter
and im unable to delete it." (i.Link is "Sony's name for the IEEE
1394 'FireWire' port." See
http://www.techweb.com/encyclopedia/defineterm?term=i%2ELink. A
number of the users quoted here have mentioned that they are using
FireWire ports.)
Another user: "I have a Pinnacle Studio 8 DV card and ULead VS6 and
neither one can find the camera because Win XP does not load any
drivers when the Sony DCR-TRV740 Digital 8 handycam is conneted
through the I.Link."
Another said that Windows Media Player worked OK for him, but Adobe
Premiere didn't work. Another said his PC wouldn't recognize his
Panasonic digital camcorder even though his system said his FireWire
port was working OK. (Someone asked whether he had the camcorder
turned on and running in VCR mode.) Another said sometimes he got the
"no video device" message and sometimes, instead, he got the message
that the device was already in use.
One person suggested making sure to load the drivers for one's digital
video camera first, then plug in the camera and let Windows XP
recognize it.
Asus V9180 Video Suite
----------------------
My Asus V9180VS video card is presumably compatible with my Asus P4PE
motherboard, running an Intel Pentium 4 with 1 GB of RAM. The card
uses the nVidia GeForce4 MX440-8X chipset. See
http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/v9180vs/overview.htm.
I am using a Sony camcorder providing analog input through the RCA
composite (COMP IN) jack on the four-jack module that plugs into the
VIVO jack on the V9180 VS. See
http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/asus/v9180vs/.
When I inserted the Asus VGA Driver CD (R31.40d, V248), it started up
with Drivers and Utilities options. Under Drivers, it offered to
install (among other things) the WDM Capture Driver. I installed
that. Then, under Utilities, it offered to install the Asus Digital
VCR. But when I selected that, I got this error message:
"No WDM streaming video capture devices have been detected on your
system. You need to connect your video device with your PC properly,
and install its WDM driver first, before installing any video capture
applications."
I assume the WDM Capture Driver, which seemed to install correctly,
would qualify as a WDM streaming video capture device.
I wrote to Asus with this problem, but received no reply.
I previously posted a message with this problem in
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus and
alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia. One user replied, "I've had
similar problems with the WDM drivers on my Asus V7700Ti Deluxe and I
haven't yet found a fix. It seems VIVO drivers say they're installed
but video capture software doesn't list the card...or capture from
it."
Another user said that he had problems when nView, a program provided
by nVidia, was activated. I checked this. The recommended selection
was: Control Panel -> Display -> Settings -> Advanced -> nView ->
Standard. This had no effect.
I went to nVidia's site and downloaded and installed the latest
drivers for this video card. Those drivers affected the options
available in Control Panel -> Display -> Settings -> Advanced, but the
video capture error message problem persisted.
I searched for that phrase -- "no WDM streaming video capture devices"
-- and got only my own post, above. Modifying the search somewhat, I
got 4,000 hits, with subject lines like "ASUS capture cards are a
problem !!!"
One problem was that people could do video capture, but a white area
appeared onscreen sometimes. This was apparently related to some copy
protection code in WDM streaming video capture drivers. The solution
was apparently to use the older 1.08 drivers from nVidia's site. See
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=3e2ce04f.43309779%40news.mindspring.com.
Previously, a number of people had problems with the Asus V7700 video
card. One guy blamed his video capture problems on the DirectX 8.0
Video Capture Update (from Asus?). He was able to do some video
capture, but only by using AsusLive, rather than the programs he
preferred to use (ULead MediaStudio Pro 6 and VideoStudio). The
problem disappeared when he used his backup to restore his system to
its condition prior to the DirectX update.
There were other instances when these and other people, with other
video problems, said things had been going better for them under
Windows 95, 98, NT, or 2000. There was some speculation that the
problem lay in Windows XP, not in the Asus software or hardware.
A user of an Asus 9280/TD video card reported getting an error saying,
"This device cannot start (code 10)." Experimenting with different
drivers and methods of installation made no difference. Others echoed
that problem. The recommeded solution was, as above, to use the
nVidia WDM driver version 1.08. I found and downloaded a copy of that
driver from http://www.hotwinfiles.com/software_details.asp?r=1785.
Another user of the Asus V9180VS had problems with virtually all of
his favorite video editing software. See
http://members.fortunecity.com/mh001/Video1.htm#v9180. His solution
was to use iuVCR from http://www.iuvcr.com/.
Conclusion
----------
This research led to a number of possible solutions. I hope to try
them out tomorrow. As I say, if any work, I will post a follow-up.
Tony Hwang
My son does lots of video NLE using Premiere 6.0. Camera is Sony TRV900
on firewire. Also daughter uses her Canon G1 camera a lot on usb port.
Never had any trouble. We run W2K Pro Sp3. Never used Windows XP or WMM.
Tony
PapaJohn (MVP)
I read through your post and found it somewhat reminiscent of what I went
through in the early days of my research with Movie Maker 2 posts, as I
tried to summarize issues and reach conclusions. My results, at
http://pws.chartermi.net/~papajohn/MM2.html
may help in your quest.
Good luck,
PapaJohn
"Ray Woodcock" <ray-wo...@usa.net> wrote in message
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Kenny
card and had difficulty capturing directly into any software, including
Movie Maker. If I use the PCVCR software which was supplied with the card I
can do it no problem.
--
Kenny
"Ray Woodcock" <ray-wo...@usa.net> wrote in message
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n8 skow
Go to your Control Panel->System->Hardware->Device Manager and expand the
Sound, video/game controllers box. Do you see the WDM drivers listed there?
n8
Ray Woodcock
> through in the early days of my research with Movie Maker 2 posts, as I
> tried to summarize issues and reach conclusions. My results, at
>
> http://pws.chartermi.net/~papajohn/MM2.html
>
> may help in your quest.
>
> Good luck,
>
> PapaJohn
PapaJohn -- thanks. Looking at your nVidia Analog Capture page, it
looks like you have had some of the same problems. So we are both
still looking for a solution!
Ray Woodcock
> Windows Movie Maker (WMM)
> -------------------------
> One such user
> said he could capture without
> any problem by using Premiere 6.0 and Dazzle's Fast Forward program.
> Lowest price for Premiere on PriceGrabber.com: $399 for full product.
Not my first option.
> Another user said, "Whenever I try to capture video in Adobe Premiere
> 6, my system reboots itself."
Definitely not my first option!
> This raised the question of whether less was more -- whether maybe
> installing just one program would be the solution. I decided to
> experiment with uninstalling and reinstalling software after reviewing
> other postings on the problem.
Haven't tried that yet.
> I also decided to try WMM 2
Tried that. Hasn't made any difference.
> Miscellaneous Hardware and "No Video Device Available"
> ------------------------------------------------------
> One user said s/he had no problem doing video capture under Win98 or
> WinXP using Studio7 software with (Pinnacle Studio?) DC10+ video
> conferencing hardware. That, too, appears (from pinnaclesys.com) to
> be a "Legacy Product." This user said that the "no video device
> available" error message arose only under WinXP
OK, but I fear video editing will use up system resources if I go back
to Win98. Besides, I'd have to buy a Win98 Second Edition CD; my
hardware insists it can't use the original Win98. Shoulda bought SE
when it was $8 from Microsoft. $35+ on eBay now.
> In a thread addressing a similar error message under Win98, one user
> suggested enabling interrupts through the jumper pins on the video
> card.
Haven't tried that. Think the card is jumperless anyway.
> Another, who was using the same hardware and having no problem,
> said, "Check your BIOS to be sure that it doesn't assign an IRQ for
> VGA or else you could get into conflict problems."
Haven't tried that. Not sure it's an issue in WinXP.
> Another user said, "I have a Audigy sound card with an ilink
> conection. I think the system recignises the ilink because in device
> manager there is a section OHCI compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller.
Thought about buying an external device of some kind to plug the
analog camcorder into, and then plug the device into the FireWire
port. Haven't tried that yet.
> Another said his PC wouldn't recognize his
> Panasonic digital camcorder even though his system said his FireWire
> port was working OK.
So maybe the external device approach is no panacea either.
> Asus V9180 Video Suite
> ----------------------
> When I inserted the Asus VGA Driver CD (R31.40d, V248), it started up
> with Drivers and Utilities options. Under Drivers, it offered to
> install (among other things) the WDM Capture Driver. I installed
> that. Then, under Utilities, it offered to install the Asus Digital
> VCR. But when I selected that, I got this error message:
>
> "No WDM streaming video capture devices have been detected on your
> system. You need to connect your video device with your PC properly,
> and install its WDM driver first, before installing any video capture
> applications."
I'm still getting that, even though I have now reverted to nVidia's
version 1.08 driver, mentioned in the previous post.
> I wrote to Asus with this problem, but received no reply.
Still no reply. I'm trying again.
> One guy blamed his video capture problems on the DirectX 8.0
> Video Capture Update
> The
> problem disappeared when he used his backup to restore his system to
> its condition prior to the DirectX update.
I'd have to reinstall WinXP from scratch to do that, and even then I
think they include DirectX updates in the whole set of online updates.
> Another user of the Asus V9180VS had problems with virtually all of
> his favorite video editing software. His solution
> was to use iuVCR from http://www.iuvcr.com/.
I'll try that now.
Randy Day
to work, why not just do the right thing and get a DV camcorder? They can
be had for under $500 these days. Many will also take an analog input and
record to DV tape or directly output DV. This will allow you to get your
analog tapes into a machine as DV over firewire.
You definately want to be editing video under XP rather than Windows 98.
Randy-
"Ray Woodcock" <ray-wo...@usa.net> wrote in message
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Rosie
Woodcock <ray-wo...@usa.net> writes
>> I have been having a problem getting my video capture stuff to work.
>
>> Windows Movie Maker (WMM)
>> -------------------------
>
>> Another user of the Asus V9180VS had problems with virtually all of
>> his favorite video editing software. His solution
>> was to use iuVCR from http://www.iuvcr.com/.
>
>I'll try that now.
Although I use a Geforce MX 460 Pro I've also been getting these
(intermittent) failure to open capture driver, yet iuVCR opens up
perfectly time after time! I now use this to capture and import into
Edit Studio (which captures pretty well anyway), Sonic foundry Vegas and
video Edit Magic.
iuVCR is a great little capture program!
Oh, and WinXPH+SP1, Nvidia 43.51 Dets and WDM 1.22.
I had trouble couple of days ago where the WDM disappeared in Device
Manager and I couldn't get it to re-install properly. I had to do a
system restore to the previous day to get it back.
Ho-hum!
--
gillie
Ray Woodcock
> to work, why not just do the right thing and get a DV camcorder? They can
> be had for under $500 these days.
Yikes! That's almost what I spent for my whole machine. If I had
that kind of money, I'd just pay someone else to do it & spend my time
drinking pina coladas.
> You definately want to be editing video under XP rather than Windows 98.
I suspected this. Thanks. I do feel a little better about buying yet
another iteration of Windows.
> > > Lowest price for Premiere on PriceGrabber.com: $399 for full product.
> >
> > Not my first option.
But still cheaper than DV!
> > > This raised the question of whether less was more -- whether maybe
> > > installing just one program would be the solution. I decided to
> > > experiment with uninstalling and reinstalling software after reviewing
> > > other postings on the problem.
> >
> > Haven't tried that yet.
I'm postponing this option. I don't see any evidence that some
particular program is the culprit. The programs are all consistently
harping on a problem with the capture driver. Like, that's the
message I just got from Asus Digital VCR, which I was able to install
after downloading the latest version of it and other programs from
Asus's site.
> > > Then, under Utilities, it offered to install the Asus Digital
> > > VCR. But when I selected that, I got this error message:
> > >
> > > "No WDM streaming video capture devices have been detected on your
> > > system. You need to connect your video device with your PC properly,
> > > and install its WDM driver first, before installing any video capture
> > > applications."
> >
> > I'm still getting that, even though I have now reverted to nVidia's
> > version 1.08 driver, mentioned in the previous post.
Latest version of Digital VCR did install. See above. Can't download
the very latest VGA driver from Asus's site -- they're just giving me
a little 8KB file when I try. But I did succeed in downloading and
installing their latest WDM driver, and while that may have eased the
problem somewhat (in the sense that at least I can now install Digital
VCR), it's not a fix.
> > > I wrote to Asus with this problem, but received no reply.
> >
> > Still no reply. I'm trying again.
Still no reply.
> > > Another user of the Asus V9180VS had problems with virtually all of
> > > his favorite video editing software. His solution
> > > was to use iuVCR from http://www.iuvcr.com/.
> >
> > I'll try that now.
It didn't fix the problem. It installed, but when I ran it, it gave
me this error:
"VIDEO CAPTURE DEVICE NOT FOUND. CORRESPONDING FUNCTIONS DISABLED.
SORRY"
Ray Woodcock
be more willing to recognize a video capture device if it were
connected through the FireWire port, rather than through the composite
video jack.
My data is coming in from a VCR and an analog camcorder. My question,
then: is there a reliable, inexpensive external device that will take
video input via coaxial and RCA connectors, and produce output via
FireWire connector?
And would that approach make sense?
I browsed the local Radio Shack, but didn't see anything quite on
target.
I can't believe I bought Asus, specifically to avoid this kind of
hassle, and am nevertheless having this hassle. I must have been,
like, Attila the Hun in a previous life, and now it's payback.
Randy Day
Low 300's for the cheap ones.
Randy-
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