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So I converted an AVI to FLV. What to do now?

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Aaron Fude

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Aug 18, 2008, 6:16:29 PM8/18/08
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Hi,

I want to place a home video clip on the web for friends and relatives
to see. I wanted to deliver it youtube or cnn.com style. So I
converted it to FLV. But since I don't know anything about Flash, I
don't know what to do next. How do you "hook it up" so that the
eventual user can view it?

Thanks in advance,

Aaron

DeskShare, Inc.

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Aug 19, 2008, 12:12:16 PM8/19/08
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Our Video Desk service makes it easy to deliver your video clips either
on your web page, your LiveJournal or blog, or as video email.

Please create a free trial account here: http://www.videodesk.net
--
Carl
DeskShare, Inc.
http://www.deskshare.com

Aaron Fude

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Aug 21, 2008, 11:48:20 PM8/21/08
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I was hoping for a free solution!

Richard Crowley

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Aug 21, 2008, 11:55:29 PM8/21/08
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"Aaron Fude" wrote ...

> "DeskShare, Inc." wrote:
> > DeskShare, Inc.http://www.deskshare.com
>
> I was hoping for a free solution!

When I had that question, I found several free FLV players
available online. Google is your friend.
Google reported 445,000 hits for: "free flv player"


ushere

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Aug 22, 2008, 10:46:03 PM8/22/08
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hi richard,

not to quibble, but i love the 445k quote. you're perfectly right of
course, the only problem (and it's certainly not yours) is that free
more often than not the term free in a search includes 'free download',
not necessarily 'free' software.

then again, the nigerian scam is still making money ;-)

have a good weekend

Richard Crowley

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Aug 22, 2008, 11:55:02 PM8/22/08
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"ushere" wrote ...

> Richard Crowley wrote:
>> "Aaron Fude" wrote ...
>>> "DeskShare, Inc." wrote:
>>>> DeskShare, Inc.http://www.deskshare.com
>>> I was hoping for a free solution!
>>
>> When I had that question, I found several free FLV players available
>> online. Google is your friend. Google reported 445,000 hits for:
>> "free flv player"
>>
> not to quibble, but i love the 445k quote. you're perfectly right of
> course, the only problem (and it's certainly not yours) is that free
> more often than not the term free in a search includes 'free download',
> not necessarily 'free' software.

I wouldn't have mentioned it, except that I easily found half a dozen
good candidates which were actually, truly, experientially *free*.
The OP should be able to find at least a couple good candidates in
the first Google page or two.


ushere

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Aug 23, 2008, 12:48:56 AM8/23/08
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true... found this googling for flv player, been using it for months:
http://www.flvtoavien.glt.pl/
and also use this flv player:
http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/2007/flv-player-20-released/

leslie

M.L.

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Aug 24, 2008, 2:59:50 AM8/24/08
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> true... found this googling for flv player, been using it for months:
> http://www.flvtoavien.glt.pl/

That points to a converter, not a player.

Looks good. I've been using the Wondershare FLV Player.
http://wondershare.com/download/creative_content.html


ushere

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Aug 24, 2008, 6:05:39 AM8/24/08
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M.L. wrote:
>> true... found this googling for flv player, been using it for
>> months: http://www.flvtoavien.glt.pl/
>
> That points to a converter, not a player.

sorry, meant to type converter.

>
>> and also use this flv player:
>> http://www.martijndevisser.com/blog/2007/flv-player-20-released/
>
> Looks good. I've been using the Wondershare FLV Player.
> http://wondershare.com/download/creative_content.html
>

i'm not too sure how different flv players are, other than perhaps
cosmetically. flv's are not really my field and when they do
occasionally crop up and need to be inserted into a dvd, converting
directly to mpg is useful.

www.Queensbridge.us

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Sep 2, 2008, 1:31:39 AM9/2/08
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It is my understanding that FLV files can be directly uploaded to
YouTube.

Give it a try.

David Ruether

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Sep 2, 2008, 10:15:04 AM9/2/08
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"www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTv...@queensbridge.us> wrote in message
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Yes, they can. Open an account there, and so long as the uploaded files
are under 1 gig and shorter than 10 minutes, YouTube will take care of
the rest (I'm uploading one as I write...;-). With longish files that began
as HDV, I convert them to highest quality .flv files before uploading
(Premiere Elements 4 is good for this). Later today I will try uploading
short HDV files directly to YouTube - or converting and uploading
directly to YouTube in their format from the Elements timeline. Even with
the intervening .flv files, quality has been surprising - see my first two, at:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhPA8IP_ig and
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7iaMv8Uwc0 (although I may upload
replacements later today, and the URLs may be different...).
--David Ruether
www.donferrario.com/ruether
d_ru...@hotmail.com

Richard Crowley

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Sep 2, 2008, 2:15:13 PM9/2/08
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"David Ruether" wrote...
> "www.Queensbridge.us" wrote ...

>> Aaron Fude wrote:
>>> I want to place a home video clip on the web for friends and relatives
>>> to see. I wanted to deliver it youtube or cnn.com style. So I
>>> converted it to FLV. But since I don't know anything about Flash, I
>>> don't know what to do next. How do you "hook it up" so that the
>>> eventual user can view it?
>>>
>> It is my understanding that FLV files can be directly uploaded to
>> YouTube.
>>
>> Give it a try.
>
> Yes, they can. Open an account there, and so long as the uploaded files
> are under 1 gig and shorter than 10 minutes, YouTube will take care of
> the rest (I'm uploading one as I write...;-).

FLV is likely the most efficient way to pack 10 minutes into 1GB,
but I've heard discussion/complaints that even if you upload FLV
and YouTube distributes in FLV, they *still* decode and recode
the video (resulting in degradation from the uploaded version).

Perhaps you can do a critical review of what your FLV encoded
video looks like vs. the downloaded version from YouTube? Is
it possible to see if the file size of the distributed version is different
than what you upload?

At Costco over the weekend, they were selling some $150
gadget that said it could record up to 1 hour internally (Flash
RAM, presumably) and output in FLV for direct upload to
YouTube and other internet websites. I can't remember the
name of this gadget.


David Ruether

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Sep 2, 2008, 3:19:56 PM9/2/08
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"Richard Crowley" <rcro...@xp7rt.net> wrote in message news:6i5e5iF...@mid.individual.net...

> "David Ruether" wrote...
>> "www.Queensbridge.us" wrote ...
>>> Aaron Fude wrote:

>>>> I want to place a home video clip on the web for friends and relatives
>>>> to see. I wanted to deliver it youtube or cnn.com style. So I
>>>> converted it to FLV. But since I don't know anything about Flash, I
>>>> don't know what to do next. How do you "hook it up" so that the
>>>> eventual user can view it?

>>> It is my understanding that FLV files can be directly uploaded to
>>> YouTube.
>>>
>>> Give it a try.

>> Yes, they can. Open an account there, and so long as the uploaded files
>> are under 1 gig and shorter than 10 minutes, YouTube will take care of
>> the rest (I'm uploading one as I write...;-).

> FLV is likely the most efficient way to pack 10 minutes into 1GB,
> but I've heard discussion/complaints that even if you upload FLV
> and YouTube distributes in FLV, they *still* decode and recode
> the video (resulting in degradation from the uploaded version).

Yes, they do - at least with high quality .flv files. I haven't tried
uploading HDV directly to avoid the interim compression/resizing
(and I don't know if YouTube accepts HDV at all), but I do have
a couple of videos that are short enough to get under the 1 gig
limit. Maybe later I will try it...

> Perhaps you can do a critical review of what your FLV encoded
> video looks like vs. the downloaded version from YouTube? Is
> it possible to see if the file size of the distributed version is different
> than what you upload?

It is, and so is the quality. Premiere Elements 4 has four grades
for .flv output quality, and the best one looks surprisingly good
at 640x480 (the YouTube videos are smaller and they show
FAR more compression artifacts (one of mine, "SQUARES",
is quite good on YouTube, one, "THE CHICAGO BEAN", is
OK, and the third, PRETTY RHODHODHENDHRONS",
due to its "fussy" detail in constant motion, edges toward the
unacceptable...). You can find these (plus tiny still frame grabs
from the original HDV) at --
http://www.donferrario.com/ruether/HD-video-captures.htm

> At Costco over the weekend, they were selling some $150
> gadget that said it could record up to 1 hour internally (Flash
> RAM, presumably) and output in FLV for direct upload to
> YouTube and other internet websites. I can't remember the
> name of this gadget.

I don't know what the best quality .flv would look like on TV,
but YouTube grade video would be gruesome.....! 8<(
--David Ruether
www.donferrario.com/ruether
d_ru...@hotmail.com


David Ruether

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Sep 2, 2008, 3:44:21 PM9/2/08
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"Richard Crowley" <rcro...@xp7rt.net> wrote in message news:6i5e5iF...@mid.individual.net...
> "David Ruether" wrote...

> Perhaps you can do a critical review of what your FLV encoded


> video looks like vs. the downloaded version from YouTube?

If I can figure out how to upload "SQUARES" to my web page
in its highest quality .flv form, you can compare them yourself...;-)
--DR


GaryT

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Sep 3, 2008, 12:35:52 AM9/3/08
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"Richard Crowley" <rcro...@xp7rt.net> wrote in message
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>


> At Costco over the weekend, they were selling some $150
> gadget that said it could record up to 1 hour internally (Flash
> RAM, presumably) and output in FLV for direct upload to
> YouTube and other internet websites. I can't remember the
> name of this gadget.
>

Probably the Flip video recorder (http://www.theflip.com/) , although there
are a couple of other, similar products on the market.

GaryT


Richard Crowley

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Sep 3, 2008, 1:21:03 AM9/3/08
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"GaryT" wrote ...
> "Richard Crowley" wrote ...

>> At Costco over the weekend, they were selling some $150
>> gadget that said it could record up to 1 hour internally (Flash
>> RAM, presumably) and output in FLV for direct upload to
>> YouTube and other internet websites. I can't remember the
>> name of this gadget.
>>
>
> Probably the Flip video recorder (http://www.theflip.com/) ,
> although there are a couple of other, similar products on the market.

Yeah, I think that's the one.


Jerry

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Sep 4, 2008, 7:33:43 PM9/4/08
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Costco's price is a little high - it's $117 at B&H with free shipping.

Jerry

GaryT

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Sep 6, 2008, 1:21:52 AM9/6/08
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"Jerry" <jerry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jerry

Not quite. Costco has only the Flip Mino for $139.99 (online at least), at
B&H the Mino is $144.95 to 149.95 depending on color. What you see at B&H
for $116.99 (to $124.95) is the Flip Ultra. Two different animals.

Gary T


Jerry

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Sep 8, 2008, 6:58:51 PM9/8/08
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On Sep 5, 10:21 pm, "GaryT" <gtemplemanPA...@proaxis.com> wrote:

>
> Not quite. Costco has only the Flip Mino for $139.99 (online at least), at
> B&H the Mino is $144.95 to 149.95 depending on color. What you see at B&H
> for $116.99 (to $124.95) is the Flip Ultra. Two different animals.
>
> Gary T

Oops, thought it was the Ultra I saw in the local Costco. You're
right, the Flip shown online is the Mino.

Jerry

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