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nick

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Jul 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/1/95
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Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel
connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?

Sincere apologies if this post is out of line.

Thanks,

- nick

Joseph Waldvogel

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Jul 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/1/95
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nick (ni...@mail.sdsu.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel
: connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
: everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?

: Sincere apologies if this post is out of line.

If you have the special tool they come right off!!! I know what the tool
looks like, but I have no idea where you can get them at.


Joseph Waldvogel

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Jul 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/2/95
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Nowaczek

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Jul 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/2/95
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Cable companies put them on so that they cannot be removed without a
special tool. That's the purpose of the device. The cable company which
installed them certainly has the removal tool.

Joe M.

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Jul 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/5/95
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nick <ni...@mail.sdsu.edu> wrote:

>Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel
>connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
>everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?

1st the proper way. A special tool available from MCM electronics
1-800-543-4330 P/N 33-0025 $6.49

2nd method, A pair of needle nose to grasp the F-Connector inside the
barrel and unscrew it works well.

3rd & most drastic. Cut the cable, slide off the barrel and apply a
new connector.

Any Questions?


sh...@prcomm.com

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Jul 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/6/95
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>Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel
>connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
>everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?

I spent about four hours one afternoon trying to figure the same thing
out. Rather than thinking any further, I just cut the damn cable and
worked around it....

Had to replace the connector obviously, but they make ones that screw
on. Too easy.

>Sincere apologies if this post is out of line.

Naw... fits right in.

Shawn Bass
Shawn Bass Productions

Eric

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Jul 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/6/95
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> >Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel
> >connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
> >everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?
>
>Had to replace the connector obviously, but they make ones that screw
>on. Too easy.

this gives the cable company ground to file charges against you as you
are obviously tampering with their equipment AND they can now PROVE that
you are stealing cable.


nick

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Jul 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/7/95
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Not just that, but in my particular instance the free spinning connector is
connected to the "feed box" and not the cable itself.

Joe M.

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Jul 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/8/95
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kel...@benji.Colorado.EDU (Eric) wrote:

>> >Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel
>> >connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
>> >everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?
>>
>>Had to replace the connector obviously, but they make ones that screw
>>on. Too easy.

>this gives the cable company ground to file charges against you as you
>are obviously tampering with their equipment AND they can now PROVE that
>you are stealing cable.

This is a crock! There are many reasons you may need to remove the
cable from the box. Painting, moving furniture, adding a splitter and
A/B switch so you can make full use of your cable ready TV, etc.

Bob Moss

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Jul 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/10/95
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Nope. Barrel connectors normally are put on at the drop, or at the
service box in apartment houses to keep people from stealing signals.
They are not on the back of the set. Not much furniture or need to
paint the great outdoors. Removal and replacement of the cable co.
equipment is prima-facia evidence of intent to steal the signal -
federal offence and a state and local offence in most areas.

BTW, we're presently doing a physical system audit, and so far
identified over 5% "unauthorized" connections. They are being removed
as identified. If they are reattached without our permission, we plan
to get nasty and maybe arrest a few pirates. My recommendation is that
after we get convictions, we run their mug shots as PSAs.

Jeffdeck

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Jul 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/10/95
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Bob,
When we first received Continental Cablevision service in August 1983,
all of their 45,000 converters at the time were installed in the field
with a metal ring around the S-A 8500311 set-top converter's input
connection. You could not move the converter from room to room, unless
you cut the coaxial cable and were handy enough to splice another fitting
onto the cut end. Their largest fear was moving the converter from city
to city. The same set-top would descramble another city's premium channel
numbers allocated as your basic channel numbers! Service authorization
was done by channel number, not by tag number.

Mystro

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Jul 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/10/95
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In article <3t7o48$b...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> nowa...@aol.com (Nowaczek) writes:
>From: nowa...@aol.com (Nowaczek)
>Subject: Re: Barrel Connector Removal
>Date: 2 Jul 1995 23:28:08 -0400

>Cable companies put them on so that they cannot be removed without a
>special tool. That's the purpose of the device. The cable company which
>installed them certainly has the removal tool.

Sheez...what a lamer,if you didnt have an answer then why this stupid
comment??

TCI SCAM

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Jul 10, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/10/95
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In article <3tqbrr$l...@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> bob...@ix.netcom.com (Bob Moss ) writes:

>BTW, we're presently doing a physical system audit, and so far
>identified over 5% "unauthorized" connections. They are being removed
>as identified. If they are reattached without our permission, we plan
>to get nasty and maybe arrest a few pirates. My recommendation is that
>after we get convictions, we run their mug shots as PSAs.

Get a life...your a bag of wind and probibly a self contractor who scams
the company and gets pissed when the homeowner takes things in his own
hands...the cable companys have been screwing the public for so dam
long anyway...why do you think there so dam many complaints?? Any why
don't you so called cable companys respond...you know why..because your
running a scam on the users!!! Were on to your crap dude...if someone need to
be prosecuted...IT YOU! And the next time you come into someones back yard
without permission and start digging...you'll find yourself on the wrong end of
a gun!!! Have a nice day..thief!

Stephen Furlonge

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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subject says it all....for the Tucson Area!!!

--
Stephen Furlonge (520) 621-9910
Rm 223A Optical Computing and Parallel Processing Research Lab
Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering
University of Arizona Tucson AZ 85721

Michael Lyon

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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Eric (kel...@benji.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
: > >Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel
: > >connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
: > >everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?
: >
: >Had to replace the connector obviously, but they make ones that screw
: >on. Too easy.

: this gives the cable company ground to file charges against you as you
: are obviously tampering with their equipment AND they can now PROVE that
: you are stealing cable.

Does that statement above give me permission to file charges against the
cable company because THEY , THE CABLE COMPANY tampered with my equipment
by putting one of those little devices on a splitter of mine. so there
goes 3 bucks down the drain. I think i am going to sue :)
-Mike
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jmu...@neca.com

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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bob...@ix.netcom.com (Bob Moss ) wrote:

>>>this gives the cable company ground to file charges against you as
>you are obviously tampering with their equipment AND they can now PROVE
>that you are stealing cable.
>>

>>This is a crock! There are many reasons you may need to remove the
>>cable from the box. Painting, moving furniture, adding a splitter and
>>A/B switch so you can make full use of your cable ready TV, etc.
>>
>>
>Nope. Barrel connectors normally are put on at the drop, or at the
>service box in apartment houses to keep people from stealing signals.
>They are not on the back of the set.

Where I live, they put them on the back of the converter box, which is
a major pain in the neck for us legit users. I had to remove it when
we had carpeting installed because the installer didn't even allow
enough cable for the box to reach the floor.

Joe


David Palmer

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Jul 11, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/11/95
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Reminds me of the Oak Multicode. The box sent a low power signal back
up the drop that needed to see a blocking device (called an 'E-1'). The
E-1 was installed at the pole, and any splitters in line needed to be
changed out to enable the signal to pass back up to the E-1. If the
customer removed the box from one outlet and moved it ot another, it
would not work, leading to a tech call. So the boxes were locked down
with the locking sleeves to the one outlet that would pass the signal.
Those were the days, I spent many an hour crawling attics for long lost
splitters.

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______________________________________________________________________
David Palmer DPa...@ix.netcom.com
"Oh aint it good when things are going your way, hey! hey!"

Eric

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Jul 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/13/95
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>Does that statement above give me permission to file charges against the
>cable company because THEY , THE CABLE COMPANY tampered with my equipment
>by putting one of those little devices on a splitter of mine. so there
>goes 3 bucks down the drain. I think i am going to sue :)

A barrel connector is a device that attaches to a female connector and
can not be removed without special tools, making it hard to attach a feed
unless you cut the cable and put on a new connector. Usually, they
install these devices on the drop line when they disconnect
a suspected pirate. If they come back and find NOT ONLY that the
connector has been removed, but ALSO that a new F-connector has been
installed (That is what the poster claimed to have done), then they have
grounds to prosecute. It works just like that tag on your electric meter.
If you open it, your getting hauled off.

As for your question about the splitter, I don't think that they attached
a barrel connector, but rather a terminating cap. If you leave an output
of your splitter unattached, then it will leak RF, causing signal loss and
interference with other radio based electronincs. It you can unscrew the
device, then it is a terminating cap, and if they put it on at no charge,
then BONUS for you (you saved yourself 50 cents). If, however, when you turn
it, it will not unthread, then it is a barrel connector. If they put one of
these on your splitter, then call them and tell them to remove it so that
you can hook up your VCR or something.

E DEPUE

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Jul 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/14/95
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A barrel connector is used to connect two threaded cables together . A
sheild is a hollow cylinder through which the connector is fastened to the
port , and requires a shield tool to remove . A locking terminator is a
device which is threaded onto an unused port with a special tool and spins
freely when someone tries to remove it . Please get your terminology
right , people !!

Bob Moss

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Jul 16, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/16/95
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In <tedturnr.8...@freecable.tci.org> tedt...@freecable.tci.org

You sound like a typical shithead who's stealing cable and is starting
to look over his shoulder. You should. When you get caught, and you
will, I hope your local cable co. throws the book at you.
If cable is such a ripoff, don't subscribe, don't steal it, and take up
some activity more in keeping with your mental ability - like sitting
in a tree and scratching.

BTW, the cute sig is not going to hide you if we really want to find
you. I can backtrack to your real URL if I want to, but small turds
like you aren't wotrh the effort.

Bob Moss

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Jul 17, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/17/95
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Several others noted the same thing. I consider this very bad
practice, and agree that it's a pain. At the very least, any cable co.
that did this should send a tech out free if you want to relocate the
box or move the converter to another TV.

Sorry, I keep thinking other cable systems are rational like ours.

Regards, Bob

Mike Reynolds

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Jul 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/19/95
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J>>> >Does anyone know how to remove those pesky little free spinning barrel

>>> >connectors installed on the cable drop from the pole. I've tried
>>> >everything tool I can think of short of hammer. What's the trick?

A trap removal tool has two little pins out of the end and a big notch
near the pins. The tool slips past the "pesky little free spinning
barrel connector" and catches the holes in the trap. Cable
installers have to be careful when removing traps as the pedestal
connector uses pot like metal which can easily be broken <G>.

michael r.

Mike Reynolds

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Jul 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/19/95
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B>BTW, we're presently doing a physical system audit, and so far

>identified over 5% "unauthorized" connections. They are being removed
>as identified. If they are reattached without our permission, we plan
>to get nasty and maybe arrest a few pirates. My recommendation is that
>after we get convictions, we run their mug shots as PSAs.


Only 5%? I've read the national cable pirate rate could equal 20%.

michael r.

Ed Ellers

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Jul 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/21/95
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The other 15% are probably bootlegging scrambled channels while paying for their
basic service.

Brian

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Jul 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/22/95
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That 15% are getting their moneys worth. I dropped my cable service
because satellite programming was cheaper. I was paying $25/month for
basic cable and I'm getting the same programming plus more on satellite
for $16, plus premium channels were an additional $10 per channel. Now
I'm getting 5 - HBO , 3 - Cinemax Channels for an additional $12 per
month. That would be $105 worth of programming if I was getting it
from my local cable company. Even though it may be illegal, who gives
a fuck, use a descrambler and get all you can from these assholes. It
should be illegal to charge the rates they do as well. Plus the
cable reception I was getting can't compare to the quality video and
audio I now get off satellite. But I have to admit I do miss fucking
the cableco out of PPV programming.


Toechewer

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Jul 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM7/23/95
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Here! Call Nu-Tek electronics at 1-800-228-7404. They have a large
selection of legal descramblers. they will send you a catalog. ENJOY!

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