Laundromats in Italy/Dress in Italy
MHS
>> pants part while you wait in line. Perfecto!
>
>Bermuda-length shorts will also do for churches, or anything that is
>around knee-length.
>
Perhaps. But I would think many of the churches would not be happy with any
type of shorts. More to the point, you are entering into a church where people
are worshiping and should dress and act appropriately. All too many think of
the Vatican et al as ecclesiastical extensions of Disney world.
MHS
Barbara Vaughan
John wrote:
>
> I'm going to Italy for the first time this fall. Reading the posts
> about men needing to wear pants in the churches makes me think that the
> perfect pair of travel pants would be some of those converter pants sold
> for backpacking at www.llbean.com, www.rei.com or
> www.SierraTradingPost.com You'd get the comfort of shorts for most of
> the day, come across a church that needs investigating, zip on the long
> pants part while you wait in line. Perfecto!
Bermuda-length shorts will also do for churches, or anything that is
around knee-length.
Barbara
Barbara Vaughan
MHS wrote:
>
> >> the day, come across a church that needs investigating, zip on the long
> >> pants part while you wait in line. Perfecto!
> >
> >Bermuda-length shorts will also do for churches, or anything that is
> >around knee-length.
> >
>
> Perhaps. But I would think many of the churches would not be happy with any
> type of shorts. More to the point, you are entering into a church where people
> are worshiping and should dress and act appropriately. All too many think of
> the Vatican et al as ecclesiastical extensions of Disney world.
The concern of the churches is not informality, but skin exposure, so
anything knee-length is OK. If you can wear a knee-length skirt, you can
also wear a knee-length pair of pants. There are often teenagers wearing
such attire participating in the services, reading the scripture lessons
or reciting the prayers, in the churches I've attended.
Barbara
hamilton
<bvau...@opr.princeton.edu> wrote:
I have seen people turned away from St. Peter's in Bermuda shorts.
Laura
Frances West <use.si...@to.respond> wrote:
> In article <3943A346...@professionalrecords.com>, Don
> Friedman
> <d...@professionalrecords.com> wrote:
> >I am traveling in major Italian cities - Rome, Florence & Venice
> - and
> >have received conflicting information about the availability of
> public
> >laundromats.
I have used a laundromat in Venice, not easy to find because of the
confusing/non-existent street signs, but it was off St. Mark's square,
the corner near the clock tower. The desk clerk at the hotel gave us
directions. As another poster mentioned, the machines are hard on your
clothes, even permanent press items will be wrinkled, and it was
expensive - about $10 for 1 washer load (the washers are smaller than
most US ones), dry and fold. I loaded them in the AM, the attendant
put them in the dryer and folded them and I picked them up late
afternoon. They were VERY busy, and I had to literally BEG the
attendant to let me wash - she kept telling me to come back the next
day. The best advice came from another poster, which is to avoid
laundromats altogether, if at all possible. By necessity, I've used
laundromats in Switzerland, France and Italy, and my clothes always
looked like hell afterwards!
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"Barbara Vaughan" <bvau...@opr.princeton.edu> wrote in message
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>
>
> John wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to Italy for the first time this fall. Reading the posts
> > about men needing to wear pants in the churches makes me think that the
> > perfect pair of travel pants would be some of those converter pants sold
> > for backpacking at www.llbean.com, www.rei.com or
> > www.SierraTradingPost.com You'd get the comfort of shorts for most of
> > pants part while you wait in line. Perfecto!
>
> Bermuda-length shorts will also do for churches, or anything that is
> around knee-length.
>
hamilton
<Decob...@hotmail.dot.com> wrote:
> Wonder what God thinks? He, after all, made us naked.
he made us to poop as well -- but we generally don't do it on his altar.
siena
"Laura" <elan2N...@mail.com.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> the corner near the clock tower. The desk clerk at the hotel gave us
> directions. As another poster mentioned, the machines are hard on your
> clothes, even permanent press items will be wrinkled, and it was
> expensive - about $10 for 1 washer load (the washers are smaller than
> most US ones), dry and fold. I loaded them in the AM, the attendant
> put them in the dryer and folded them and I picked them up late
> afternoon. They were VERY busy, and I had to literally BEG the
> attendant to let me wash - she kept telling me to come back the next
> day. The best advice came from another poster, which is to avoid
> laundromats altogether, if at all possible. By necessity, I've used
> laundromats in Switzerland, France and Italy, and my clothes always
> looked like hell afterwards!
>
If you go to a Laundromat where the employees wash dry and fold your clothes
in their coin operated machines, they will destroy your clothes. BUT, coin
operated Laundromats like OndaBlu are great places to go. They do not
destroy your clothes and are like American machines not like the Italian
ones. The cost was (last time I checked) Lit. 6000 per regular wash and
Lit. 6000 for a regular dry. You can also use their big washers if you are
a group of people and then the price is (I think) Lit. 10000 per wash. The
time it would take to wash and dry is the same as the machines in America.
Italian machines on the other hand take 3 times as long since the water that
goes in the machine is cold and must be heated to the proper temp. A very
hot wash takes about 2 to 2.5 hours (not including drying time).
You will find OndaBlu Laundromats in all of the University towns as well as
the big cities.
Cristina
Luca Logi
> Wonder what God thinks? He, after all, made us naked.
You should dress decently in a church not only out of respect to God
(this being strictly a personal matter of yours), but also out of
respect to local persons attending the church - this already being a
sufficient reason for sticking to local rules. BTW, you would have
already noted that not only you are required to limit the exposure of
naked skin in a church, but you should avoid being too loud, disturbing
the services and eating ice cream while visiting the church. All these
things should be self evident, but half an hour spent by the doors of a
major church will quickly convince you that there is no shortage of
tourists coming from all corners of the world and not understanding the
difference between a cathedral and a beach.
BTW, this problem is an ancient one and it wasn't limited to tourists.
If you have a close look, you will discover that there are hundreds of
stone signs around Florence, some of them dating back to 14th century,
forbidding making noise, littering, playing and, for prostitutes, making
business in the proximity of churches - with the penalty usually
involving whipping ("tratti di corda"), but left to the free decision of
the judge ("et arbitrio del magistrato"). When I hang around piazza del
Duomo in Florence and I see so many people eating their sandwiches and
drinking their beers on the marble stairs of the cathedral, I wish the
old medieval judges ("Li signori otto di balia") were still around with
their whips....
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Luca Logi - Firenze - Italy e-mail: ll...@dada.it
Helen Sternheim Umass
washed our laundry in Europe. Just returned from Greece and hand washing
did very well. Just bring a wardrobe that is easily washed. Also you need
less clothing to carry if you wash every evening before retiring.
We all older adults wore shorts.
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Helen Sternheim Director of User Services UMassK12
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