Re: Don't be confused.
Tim C.
<news:hbir45drnirpm2hj9...@4ax.com> :
> Dutch win right to keep Bavaria beer name
>
> Friday 03 July 2009
>
> Dutch brewing group Bavaria has won the right to keep its brand name in an legal
> battle with German brewers, news agency Bloomberg reports
>
> The European Court of Justice in Luxembourg on Thursday said brewers from the
> German area of Bavaria could not use EU rules protecting regional food names to
> challenge the Dutch brewers� use of the Bavaria brand name, which dates back to
> 1925.
>
> 'We are not free-riding on the German brewers� reputation and we have never in
> any way pretended to be German,' Gerard van der Wal, a lawyer for the Dutch beer
> maker told Bloomberg. 'We always said that we are a typical Dutch brewer.'
I'm confused.
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Tim C.
Mike Hagley
Mike Hagley
"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
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> One sip of Bavaria and you will wonder if it is water, no way will you
> mistake
> it for German beer.
> --
>
> Martin
>
JohnT
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Mr. Hagley's expertise in discerning the merits of beer is exceeded only by
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JohnT
Hatunen
wrote:
>Dutch win right to keep Bavaria beer name
>
>Friday 03 July 2009
>
>Dutch brewing group Bavaria has won the right to keep its brand name in an legal
>battle with German brewers, news agency Bloomberg reports
>
>The European Court of Justice in Luxembourg on Thursday said brewers from the
>German area of Bavaria could not use EU rules protecting regional food names to
>challenge the Dutch brewers� use of the Bavaria brand name, which dates back to
>1925.
>
>'We are not free-riding on the German brewers� reputation and we have never in
>any way pretended to be German,' Gerard van der Wal, a lawyer for the Dutch beer
>maker told Bloomberg. 'We always said that we are a typical Dutch brewer.'
That makes little sense to me. Why would a Dutch brewer (or even
Berlin brewer) label its beer "Bavarian" unless there was some
intent to link its beer with that made by Bavarians, to enhance
its appeal?
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of German brewers is wide - extending even to the far east. And as the
beer seems to date from 1925, it's a bit late to be chasing after horses
that have bolted.
M
http://www.cannes-or-bust.com/
Mister B
> it for German beer.
Slightly unfair - it doesn't taste like sewage, so you wouldn't
mistake it for Dutch water.
B;
Mister B
> Mike Hagley wrote:
> Many beers around Europe have Teutonic-sounding names, as the influence
> of German brewers is wide - extending even to the far east. And as the
> beer seems to date from 1925, it's a bit late to be chasing after horses
> that have bolted.
Is there a statute of limitations for deceptive advertising ?
B;
James Silverton
Hell, a lot of Mexican beer companies were founded by German immigrants
and there is even a Bavaria beer company there. Their beers are not bad
even if I prefer those made by the Modelo company, especially Negra
Modelo.
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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland
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Hatunen
<nswr...@netscape.net> wrote:
>Many beers around Europe have Teutonic-sounding names, as the influence
>of German brewers is wide - extending even to the far east. And as the
>beer seems to date from 1925, it's a bit late to be chasing after horses
>that have bolted.
One would think so.
California wineries have been calling their sparkling wines
"champagne" for quite a long time. Please tell the appelation
controlee types in France that it's a bit late to be chasing
after horses that have bolted.
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Michael
> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:02:00 +0200, Michael
> <nswr...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> Many beers around Europe have Teutonic-sounding names, as the influence
>> of German brewers is wide - extending even to the far east. And as the
>> beer seems to date from 1925, it's a bit late to be chasing after horses
>> that have bolted.
>
> One would think so.
>
> California wineries have been calling their sparkling wines
> "champagne" for quite a long time. Please tell the appelation
> controlee types in France that it's a bit late to be chasing
> after horses that have bolted.
>
a style of beer called "Bavaria".
hackamore
> One sip of Bavaria and you will wonder if it is water, no way will you mistake
> it for German beer.
Hi,
I think I've only had it once from some street stand on Queen's Day or
something but DO remember it as a beer to be avoided...
there are just to many better choices...
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hackamore
> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:02:00 +0200, Michael
> <nswr...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>> Many beers around Europe have Teutonic-sounding names, as the influence
>> of German brewers is wide - extending even to the far east. And as the
>> beer seems to date from 1925, it's a bit late to be chasing after horses
>> that have bolted.
>
> One would think so.
>
> California wineries have been calling their sparkling wines
> "champagne" for quite a long time. Please tell the appelation
> controlee types in France that it's a bit late to be chasing
> after horses that have bolted.
>
Hi,
I'd have to go look it up but it goes back to some old treaty.
in the US one can call any sparkling wine champagne or CHAMPAGNE but not
the proper name Champagne unless it truly is Champagne.
the funny thing is the truly premium US sparklers don't call their
products "champagne"... they'll note it's a Methode Champenoise wine and
note it's type in french... but they won't use the loophole.
try a Shrambsburg sometimes... I like the cremant.
Hatunen
Which is why there aren't Bavarian beer officials walking into
bars and saloons all over the place and breakign bottle of
"Bavarian" beer.
But California champagne is still a case of "chasing after horses
that have bolted". And in the California case, they are still
chasing the horses. And catching them to some extent; A lot of
California sparkling wines are now labelled as "sparkling
chardonnay" or whatever.
Michael
great m�thodes that are preferable to some of the bona-fide champagnes.
There are also great cr�mants and Italy has a tasty range of proseccos.
Rather than aping another style, I think it is worth re-defining one you
can control. If I was a US winemaker, I'd try and make the US wines a
distinct style of their own, for example. More modern, playful,
palatable, exclusive or whatever angle they would choose to take. Look
what Perrier did with fizzy water, for example, or San Pellegrino.
M
http://www.cannes-or-bust.com/
hackamore
Hi,
I must say I really like the Shrambsburg stuff.
They do a full range of wines I just happen to like the cremant :-}
I'm giving my brother some for his birthday in a couple of weeks...
none of the shops where he lives now can get it.
it's not a bargain label...
but it's a -very- good wine that sells out every year despite the
premium price.