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a...@onlywaytotravel.com

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Recently we have had several clients who refuse to get
passports for overseas travel and insist that they only
want to carry a birth certificate. When we advise them
that this may not be acceptable for all travel they have
cancelled their trip. Can anyone shed some ideas on why
getting a passport is such a negative.


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Ken Stutt

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Hi,

I think the best thing would be to ask them. We have never found it to
be a burden.
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H.F.

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Sounds like they have something to hide.

Howard F.

On 4 Sep 1998 13:30:06 GMT, a...@onlywaytotravel.com wrote:

>Recently we have had several clients who refuse to get
>passports for overseas travel and insist that they only
>want to carry a birth certificate. When we advise them
>that this may not be acceptable for all travel they have
>cancelled their trip. Can anyone shed some ideas on why
>getting a passport is such a negative.
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gips...@worldnet.att.net

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Any info or sites with reviews where we can get ready for this cruise?
It is our first time. Thank you.

jleq

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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Just a guess...many people want "instant gratification." They
don't want to have to do anything after they pay for their tix
(other than hop on a ship). Passports aren't done in a manner
of seconds.

--jim

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> Recently we have had several clients who refuse to get
> passports for overseas travel and insist that they only
> want to carry a birth certificate.
>
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By the Book

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Hi,
Like anything else that is the new the first time someone does it, I suspect
that it sounds more complicated than it is, and they aren't sure about going
about it. For instance, when my parents first had to get passports they
fussed about it too. "We've traveled all over the world with just our birth
certificate and driver's license, and we even have our voter's registration,
that should be good enough. Why do we have to fill out all these other
forms...?" etc., etc., you get the picture.

For them, the process (in their case it was a going to a central post office
for an application, then a place that took passport photos, etc.) seemed
daunting.

Personally, I love my passport. Makes me feel like I'm ready to leave the
country on a moment's notice - that if some wild opportunity came to go to
Paris TODAY, I'd be ready! (Besides, we like getting them stamped in the
countries - sort of like my kids' sticker books! Hahhaha)

Kate in NY


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>Recently we have had several clients who refuse to get
>passports for overseas travel and insist that they only

>want to carry a birth certificate. When we advise them
>that this may not be acceptable for all travel they have
>cancelled their trip. Can anyone shed some ideas on why
>getting a passport is such a negative.
>
>
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CruiseXprt

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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I've had the same problem with clients, but not with passports - visas. Since
I'm an "Aussie Specialist", clients are required to have an Australian visa,
which requires them either going to San Francisco to the consulate with
passport in hand, OR, mailing their passport, by certified mail - neither of
which they wanted to do! Luckily, now I can do visas electronically, which is
great.

I agree with Kate -- I love seeing all the stamps in my passport -
unfortunately, most countries are just "zapping" them, and not stamping them
anymore! Boo!

Melodie
Kennedy Kruises & Travel

Gayle A Kortright

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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Perhaps they don't regularly travel outside the US and can't see
spending that money for a passport that won't be used. I don't have
one, having never left the US except for my cruises and Canada. I can
think of other things to spend that money on. As long as the birth
certificate and photo ID are acceptable that's what I'll use.

Gayle

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kathry...@pharma.novartis.com

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In article <6sopg7$i...@news1.newsguy.com>,

"By the Book" <byth...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Like anything else that is the new the first time someone does it, I suspect
> that it sounds more complicated than it is, and they aren't sure about going
> about it.

When I got my first passport, it was for a trip I went on in high school to
Europe. At the time I was 17 and there was a lot involved for a 17 year old.
I had to get an original copy of my birth certificate (which meant I had to
drive to another county and risk getting lost). I had to fill out a form and
beg my mom for a check... not an easy task when you're a senior in high
school and my parents felt like they were constantly writing checks. I had
to find a place that took passport photos - also had to go outside of our
rural area. We all brought our paperwork in on the same day and the County
Clerk came to our school and processed the paperwork.

Now that passport has long expired. I dread ever having to get another one
because I remember what a difficult task it was 11 years ago (god, I'm
getting old). I realize that this is totally unfounded since all of the
things which seemed so difficult to me then would now be everyday errands
(plus mom wouldn't have to pay, but we would have to consider it when
planning our monthly budget), but I still associate a passport with lots and
lots of legwork and difficulty.

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Ken Stutt

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I don't have a review of an Hawaiian cruise, but there is a recent one
of the Dynasty at my "Wheelhouse" site. Also a lot of things for the
first time cruiser (and not so first time!)

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Ken Stutt (not an agent)

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Charleen Bunjiovianna

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In article <199809041438...@ladder01.news.aol.com> cruis...@aol.com (CruiseXprt) writes:
>I've had the same problem with clients, but not with passports - visas. Since
>I'm an "Aussie Specialist", clients are required to have an Australian visa,
>which requires them either going to San Francisco to the consulate with
>passport in hand, OR, mailing their passport, by certified mail - neither of
>which they wanted to do! Luckily, now I can do visas electronically, which is
>great.

Is that the "Electronic Travel Authority" that the State Department talks about
on its web page? I couldn't quite figure that out when I saw it, but what
you say makes sense.

For anyone interested, the State Department's Foreign Entry Requirements page
is at: http://travel.state.gov/foreignentryreqs.html

I'm suffering a bit of separation anxiety with my passport at the moment. I've
had to get it renewed a year early because it would have expired soon after
the trip next year and some countries require you to have a passport valid
for at least six months after your date of entry. I got the mail-in renewal
form off the Web (don't have the URL handy) and sent in the passport with
two pictures and the $40 fee. Meanwhile, if I need to leave the country, I
guess I'm stuck.

Charleen

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Ed Wynn

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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Ever looked at your passport photo?? Mine will be ten years old next year
and time to get a new one. When I look at my present passport photo, I know
it has been a tough ten years!! Where did all that hair go??

Ed in Las Vegas


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>Sounds like they have something to hide.
>
>Howard F.
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H.F.

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I think you inadvertantly posted a new post under a reply to another
thread. I suggest you create a new post and try again.

Howard F.

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On 4 Sep 1998 13:56:11 GMT, gips...@worldnet.att.net wrote:

>Any info or sites with reviews where we can get ready for this cruise?
>It is our first time. Thank you.

Ernest Jones

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Americans don't know how lucky they are re-passports. My wife and I are
about to take a European cruise and she needs VISAS for UK, Holland,
Eire, Portugal,and Marocco. they cost over $200 as we had to use a visa
agency! She is a legal resident of the USA but her passport is
Colombian!!! I have a British passport which is even more convenient
than the US. I don't need a visa for (almost) anywhere, not even
Australia mate!

Ernest Jones
Retired Music & Cruise Crazy
Internet Cybernerd On The Beach

Peter Bugda

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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You will love the Dynasty. It is a beautiful, small, luxury-looking,
first class cruise ship. I suggest you read Fred Lanyards Alaska cruise
review. And; In Hawaii, rent a car on each of the islands. It`s the
best way to really see each island. But, do your homework beforehand.
Get info and maps.
Peter in Fl.

que sera sera


Linda Shindler

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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Wow, I got my first passport at the ripe old age of 18 when preparing to
join my Air Force husband at our new home in Spain. I was so excited
and never realize it was just the beginning of my lifelong love of
travel. Can't imagine not being excited about it......let alone
refusing to travel because of having to get one. :)

Linda S in OK

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> Recently we have had several clients who refuse to get
>
> passports for overseas travel and insist that they only
>
> want to carry a birth certificate. When we advise them
>

peter

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Sep 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/5/98
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We have 2 as an EC (european community) one is very handy in some countries
and saves getting some visas, especially in places in Africa.

CJ Burdorf

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Sep 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/5/98
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We also were excited to get our passports. I like the freedom of knowing
if I want to go I can go. Gives me a secure feeling -- after all my
birth certificate lists my madien name and still don't know how this
would be better than a voter registration card and photo ID. We just
like having them, unfortunately, we don't have any "stamps" because the
only international travel we have done has been on cruise ships leaving
from US ports. Passports are easier to carry and you only need the one
form of ID -- now that all airline flights ask for some sort of ID, we
are in the habit of using our Passport for all travel.
CJ


Bob Hardwick

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A Voter registration card is no longer a valid ID for entry back
into the US. I found this out when I called US Customs.

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Eleanor Pelcyger

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Sep 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/9/98
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Linda,
How right you are! I, too got my first passport at 18 in preparation for a
years travel in the middle east. How exciting to face the daunting prospect
of international travel with only a little book to remind one of their
"roots". I wouldnt trade those moments for the world and if the truth be
told, I'm still a sucker for the excitment I feel when I take my passport
out before a trip!
Eleanor P. (my passport picture may be aging but I'm not!)
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