New cruise terminal for Oasis of the Seas
George Leppla
at Fort Lauderdale where the Oasis of the Seas will be docking.
According to Royal Caribbean, the terminal is designed to get passengers
from the curb and onto the ship in 15 minutes... AFTER the disembarking
passengers have cleared the ship. One of the biggest bottlenecks and
complaints about pier check -in is that there is no where to sit if you
have to wait to get on the ship. They seem to have solved this with a
large waiting area that you go to AFTER you check in... and are waiting
for the ship to clear for boarding. This is pretty much necessary
because no matter how much the cruise lines have asked people to not get
to the pier early, every week there are those who show up at 9 AM. <vbg>
There are going to be 90 check-in stations!
Check out these links for the complete story including interactive diagrams:
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Nonny
"George Leppla" <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks to Randy E. for sending me links about the new cruise
> terminal at Fort Lauderdale where the Oasis of the Seas will be
> docking.
>
> According to Royal Caribbean, the terminal is designed to get
> passengers from the curb and onto the ship in 15 minutes...
> AFTER the disembarking passengers have cleared the ship. One of
> the biggest bottlenecks and complaints about pier check -in is
> that there is no where to sit if you have to wait to get on the
> ship. They seem to have solved this with a large waiting area
> that you go to AFTER you check in... and are waiting for the
> ship to clear for boarding. This is pretty much necessary
> because no matter how much the cruise lines have asked people to
> not get to the pier early, every week there are those who show
> up at 9 AM. <vbg>
>
That way, we get to the Lido deck and the bars sooner, George.
Besides, it's fun to help them set up the chairs, as my Dad used
to say. <grin>
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>
> "George Leppla" <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote in message
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>> Thanks to Randy E. for sending me links about the new cruise terminal
>> at Fort Lauderdale where the Oasis of the Seas will be docking.
>>
>> According to Royal Caribbean, the terminal is designed to get
>> passengers from the curb and onto the ship in 15 minutes... AFTER the
>> disembarking passengers have cleared the ship. One of the biggest
>> bottlenecks and complaints about pier check -in is that there is no
>> where to sit if you have to wait to get on the ship. They seem to
>> have solved this with a large waiting area that you go to AFTER you
>> check in... and are waiting for the ship to clear for boarding. This
>> is pretty much necessary because no matter how much the cruise lines
>> have asked people to not get to the pier early, every week there are
>> those who show up at 9 AM. <vbg>
>>
>
> That way, we get to the Lido deck and the bars sooner, George. Besides,
> it's fun to help them set up the chairs, as my Dad used to say. <grin>
>
Well, it looks like I might get to help them set up the chairs for one
of the first cruises!
We have been invited on the November 20th two night sailing and it
looks like we might be able to go. Our reservation is confirmed and
I've done the pre-cruise registration and have even gone online to make
reservations for the ice show, the big production show and the comedy show.
Normally, I don't bother to go to Florida or NY for these TA cruises
because it isn't hardly worth the time and expense for just a two night
cruise. But to me, the OASIS is a "game changer"... a ship so radically
different that it might change the cruise industry. The last ship that
caused this kind of anticipation was the Grand Princess. Simply put...
I want to see it. We have a group going on the Oasis in October 2010
and have almost 200 people booked.
Ironically, we got invited to do TWO of these sailings. One invitation
from Royal Caribbean and one from the consortium I belong to. When it
rains, it pours.... but I just took one of the sailings. (and no, I
can't let someone go in my place... sorry!)
It isn't written in stone that I'm going to be able to go, but the
stonemason is sharpening his chisels.
--
Tom K
>
> Normally, I don't bother to go to Florida or NY for these TA cruises
> because it isn't hardly worth the time and expense for just a two night
> cruise. But to me, the OASIS is a "game changer"... a ship so radically
> different that it might change the cruise industry. The last ship that
> caused this kind of anticipation was the Grand Princess.
Do you really think that Grand Princess had a bigger level of anticipation
than Voyager? I kinda remember more about Voyager... though obviously you
see tons more cruise people than us non TA's do... but around here I thought
the bigger buzz was over Voyager. Assuming my memory... LOL
--Tom
George Leppla
The Grand Princess wasn't the first of the modern Mega-ships... over
100.000 GRT, but the new design was so different that this ship
completely eclipsed the debut of the Carnival Destiny. Princess did a
masterful job of bringing the Grand to New York, then to Florida. They
played the media like a conductor leads an orchestra and you couldn't
turn on a TV for weeks without the Grand being in the news. It wasn't
only about the size... but the design and Skywalker's Lounge was all the
rage.
The Voyager also created a lot of hype.... but most of it had to do with
size. It was a ground breaking design, but for some reason, didn't seem
to catch the publics attention like the Grand did... or the Oasis is
doing now.
Does anyone remember that Carnival has a new ship coming out right now?
Carnival Dream will be christened this Thursday and no one but no one
is paying attention. All eyes are on the Oasis.
Tom K
>
> The Voyager also created a lot of hype.... but most of it had to do with
> size. It was a ground breaking design, but for some reason, didn't seem
> to catch the publics attention like the Grand did... or the Oasis is doing
> now.
>
> Does anyone remember that Carnival has a new ship coming out right now?
> Carnival Dream will be christened this Thursday and no one but no one is
> paying attention. All eyes are on the Oasis.
>
> --
And I guess it also comes from "your perspective"... so to speak. A few
years ago we were in NYC (I think we were going to the Vermeer show at the
Metropolitan Museum of Art) and my Mom was in the car. We saw a few ships
in port that day including the Queen Mary 2. She didn't care about any of
the other ships, but she remembers she saw the QM2.. and she came to this
country on the Ille de France. For her the QM2 was the only ship out of the
bunch that mattered. And to be honest, I don't remember any of the other
ships either. Might have been the Zenith, which I had a lot of good times
on, but the QM2 is simply more memorable.
But can you imagine the kinda hype they could have gotten if they had Oasis
ready ahead of time and had her in NYC during the World Series? WOW.
--Tom
Mr Met 06
Tom George is right about the Grand Princess ..At that time Princess
was not part of Carnival and they didn"t like Carnival at all !!
Carnival low class in Pricess eye"s .Remember Princess didn"t want to
be brought out by Carnival It took a big fight to take Princess over
at the time . I was at the pier for her christening in NYC .It was
the best christened ship i ever seen in NYC i got an invite from my
TA at the time .I think it was just as big .It was a real different
type cruise ship at the time ..
Ken G........>
Brian K
Port Everglades there was a lounge by the entrance to the boarding
gangway. There were soft beverages and rest rooms too.
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Rosalie B.
>George Leppla wrote On 11/10/2009 10:20 AM:
>> Thanks to Randy E. for sending me links about the new cruise terminal
>> at Fort Lauderdale where the Oasis of the Seas will be docking.
>>
>> According to Royal Caribbean, the terminal is designed to get
>> passengers from the curb and onto the ship in 15 minutes... AFTER the
>> disembarking passengers have cleared the ship. One of the biggest
>> bottlenecks and complaints about pier check -in is that there is no
>> where to sit if you have to wait to get on the ship. They seem to
>> have solved this with a large waiting area that you go to AFTER you
>> check in... and are waiting for the ship to clear for boarding. This
>> is pretty much necessary because no matter how much the cruise lines
>> have asked people to not get to the pier early, every week there are
>> those who show up at 9 AM. <vbg>
>>
>> There are going to be 90 check-in stations!
>>
>> Check out these links for the complete story including interactive
>> diagrams:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yz8xk4y
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ykvogrt
>Unless things have changed, when I've checked in at the HAL terminal in
>Port Everglades there was a lounge by the entrance to the boarding
>gangway. There were soft beverages and rest rooms too.
The problem is that there isn't enough space for everyone, especially
if boarding is delayed for some reason (like the ship was late). We
were supposed to get on the Pearl in Miami, and boarding was delayed.
We dropped off our luggage about 10:30, returned the rental car at the
airport, got the shuttle back to the pier, and got checked in
perfectly OK and quickly. But then we had to stand in line for over
an hour because all the seats in the lounge were taken. I finally
just sat down on the floor. They let the people who were sitting in
the lounge get on about 1300, and then let those of us who were
standing in line sit down in the lounge
George Leppla
Rosalie, there is seating for 3000 people in the new terminal.
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> Rosalie, there is seating for 3000 people in the new terminal.
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Makes me wonder if they will have snack and souvenir shops. I recall my
college days and an enterprising student who made sandwiches and took them
around campus selling them during study hours. He made a huge wad of cash 5
days a week. Why not hit the cruise terminals with some product? Whatever,
if 3,000 people are sitting around, somebody will sell them something to
ease the boredom. Maybe camera batteries, as per a previous thread.
Harry Cooper
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> Why not hit the cruise terminals with some product? Whatever,
>if 3,000 people are sitting around, somebody will sell them something to
>ease the boredom.
Hi Harry,
The Port of Los Angeles has had folks selling goodies for many years.
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Nonny
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My guess is that the enterprising person, nowadays, would be
arrested and hauled away. <grin> I'm sure that the good folk
running the terminal or leasing it have explored every way
possible to get money from the people, including food, beverages
and toilets.
Back in high school, I took a break from construction and
electrical work and bought a 3-wheeled ice cream wagon, expanding
my enterprise very quickly to two of them. Then, I got drivers
and went back to work wiring homes. OTOH, the wagons did a
fabulous business at lunch time: one would park outside of a shoe
factory during the lunch hour and the other outside of a chicken
and turkey pie plant. The money and volume selling the treats
wasn't in driving the streets enticing kids out of their homes,
but in selling the treats to working folk on their lunch break or
construction workers during morning or afternoon breaks.
The chicken pie factory had no issue with my enterprise, but the
shoe factory folk would send someone out to check on my wagon,
occasionally, to be sure I was "outside" of their property so that
they could sell the employees treats themselves inside the
factory.
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people on OASIS
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George Leppla
> seating for 3000 people in the new terminal does not do it for the 6380
> people on OASIS
That is the holding area where people will wait after checking in and
before getting on the ship.... until the ship is ready for boarding. I
suppose that if all 6000 people show up before Noon, there might be a
problem.
I also suppose that if the ship is late getting back to the pier, that
would be a mess, just like it is at every other pier. Cruise lines and
port authorities are not going to design a building to seat every
passenger in case of every contingency known to man. Those seats and
that space would go unused 99%+ of the time... it is just not cost
effective.
I remember one cruise where someone complained that they had to WAIT
FOUR HOURS TO GET ON THE SHIP!!!! Seems they showed up at the pier at 8 AM.
FWIW... I've been instructed to show up at the Oasis at 2:30 PM for
boarding. I'll probably go a little earlier than that, but not much.
Bill
> seating for 3000 people in the new terminal does not do it for the 6380
> people on OASIS
Presumably not all of them are going to show up before they can
start boarding.
Bill
Bill
>
> Makes me wonder if they will have snack and souvenir shops.
Seeing as how their goal is to get people on the ship in 15
minutes (once they can board), I wonder if it pays for them to
have shops. Most people probably won't buy food since they know
they can eat for free once they get on the ship.
Bill
Rosalie B.
They might if the ship had to delay boarding for some reason. Maybe
not all of them. Possibly 1380 of them will be arriving at two or
three in the afternoon. That would leave 2000 of them without seats.
But it's almost half - better than having only 500 seats for 2000
people.
Dillon Pyron
>Thanks to Randy E. for sending me links about the new cruise terminal
>at Fort Lauderdale where the Oasis of the Seas will be docking.
>
>According to Royal Caribbean, the terminal is designed to get passengers
>from the curb and onto the ship in 15 minutes... AFTER the disembarking
>passengers have cleared the ship. One of the biggest bottlenecks and
>complaints about pier check -in is that there is no where to sit if you
>have to wait to get on the ship. They seem to have solved this with a
>large waiting area that you go to AFTER you check in... and are waiting
>for the ship to clear for boarding. This is pretty much necessary
>because no matter how much the cruise lines have asked people to not get
>to the pier early, every week there are those who show up at 9 AM. <vbg>
That's because they'll be behind me!!!
>
>There are going to be 90 check-in stations!
>
>Check out these links for the complete story including interactive diagrams:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yz8xk4y
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ykvogrt
>
>
>George Leppla
>
>Countryside Travel http://www.CruiseMaster.com
>Blog http://cruisemaster.typepad.com/my_weblog/
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Dillon Pyron
>Nonny wrote:
My BDM told me Friday I could still get that $375 rate. But the air
would eat me alive.
The Austin BDM said he was headed out today for a few "relaxing days
on board". He has a Boardwalk balcony and is looking forward to
spending as much as six hours in there. He says he'll also be getting
a "ground level view" of the ship. As in planting trees. Lots of
trees. Lots and lots of trees.
Ah, the life of a cruise line employee, all fun. If you dig digging.
Brian K
like me. What is a BDM? Best Darn Merchandiser?
Dillon Pyron
Ooops, aimed at George. BDM = Business Development Manager.
The $375 rate is a per cabin suite on the one night TA preview.
But air is $375/person
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