Howie wants to see your CV and impress you with his!
Reef Fish
Howie (Tryth...@Ifyouhaveabrain.net)
Subject: Re: For Howie: RTCs Closet Queen Of The Newsgroup - Howard Garland...
Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises
Date: 2004-05-31 09:01:01 PST
I got this message from Google:
#> Unable to retrieve message Q6ydneGEUKk...@comcast.com
When I copied Howie's post, and tried to post it with
Re: For Howie: RTCs Closet Queen Of The Newsgroup - Howard Garland...
Google said I could not use "Re:" because of no article to "Re: " to.
When I posted WITHOUT the "Re :", some article got lost, presumably
because Google saw the same subject by the same author (without a Re:)
and assumed they were duplicate articles.
Sooooooooo, here I am, with an unmistakable NEW subject, in response
to the old article of Howie, whose source was cited above.
> Reef Fish wrote:
>
> [lots of quoted text snipped]
>
> Impress me with your CV, Bob?
>
> Howie
Howie, nobody can impress you -- a legend in your own mind. But I can
try to give readers of RTC a glimse of your distinguished career, in
academia and rec.travel.cruises, together with a few footnotes of mine
indicated by "*":
2004: BS Artist, RTC, Anti-Anti-Smoking, Anti-Anti-Simitic Cop
2003: BS Apprentice, rec.travel.cruises, Closet Queen of newsgroup
1972: Ph.D., Cornell University ILR School, see M.S.
1971: M.S., Cornell, Organizational Behavior, Social Psychology
1968: B.A. cum laude, Brooklyn College, Psychology; Minor, Mathematics
* by 1969, 3 doctoral students had already received their Ph.D. under
* my direction. Of those three, one became Dean of a major Business
* School; one became Dean of a liberal Arts College; and the third is
* Chairman of a Department of Statistics.
U OF DELAWARE THESIS AND DISSERTATION COMMITTEES
Wycoff, S. Masters Thesis, Psychology, 1995.
Banicky, L. Doctoral Dissertation, Psychology, 1997.
* Wowie, Howie! Two Committee memberships in Howie's entire career
* in Deleware. If they only had a newsgroup posting curriculum. ;-)
* Okay, Howie, I'll say it for you, to me, : "you smug son-of-a-bitch.
* Fuck off, man." But sorry, Howie, you need to expand your
* vocabulary too. Us <sic> in academic don't pay much attention to
* folks with hot air and foul mouth, and lack academic substance.
BIOGRAPHICAL LISTINGS
Who's Who in the East (1991, 1994)
Who's Who in South East Deleware Suburbs (1988)
Who's Who in the South and Southwest (1982)
* Ever heard of "Who's Who in the USA" or "Who's Who in the World"?
PUBLICATIONS
Emerich, C. G., Brower, H. H., Feldman, J. M., & Garland, H. (2001).
Administrative Science Quarterly, 46, 527-557.
Sawyer, J.E., Kernan, M.C., Conlon, D.E., & Garland, H. (1999).
Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 29, 23-51.
Garland, H., & Conlon, D. E. (1998).
Journal of Applied Social Psychology, 28: 2025-2048.
Conlon, D.E., & Garland, H. (1993). Academy of Management Journal, 36, 402-413.
* Too busy publishing in newsgroups, Howie? Should have included these:
* Garland, Howard. (2003), 1480 posts, rec.travel.cruises. Won "Snob" award.
* Garland, Howie. (2004), 724 posts, rec.travel.cruises
Chairperson Search Department 1978-81, 1982-83, 1986-87
Dean's Search College 1979-80
Graduate Faculty Membership University 1979-82
Management Graduate Faculty Department 1981-83
Indirect Cost Committee University 1995-96
Graduate Studies Committee University 1997-2001
* Amazing what some folks put on their CV!!
Howie, should I be impressed or depressed? :-))
-- Bob.
Dick Goldhaber
Everything (snipped)
Just my opinion, but you cannot imagine how tedious this thread has become.
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
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"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8fb7380b.04060...@posting.google.com...
> When I tried to reply to Howie's post, from the Google archives,
Dick Goldhaber
Glad you think so. I hope that some of us don't.
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
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"CupCaked" <karens...@cupcaked.com> wrote in message
news:40bea96f...@news.optonline.com...
>
>
> Bob, you're the "real" Deep Throat of this newsgroup. Keep the
> exposes coming ... I love 'em :-)
>
> What a hoot! ;-)
> __ /7__/7__/7__
> \::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::...
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews
> (...and leave off the "potatoes" to e-mail)
Reef Fish
Dick, are you posting from some toy web-tv too? When I tried to
follow-up with a reply (from google), I got:
#> Subject must not start with "Re:" unless it is a followup
apparently not recognizing my reply as a reply. Soooooo, I am
deleting the "Re:" so that this can get posted.
> Bob,
>
> Everything (snipped)
>
> Just my opinion, but you cannot imagine how tedious this thread has become.
Dick, that's what USENET Newsgroups are! An open and public forum for
everyone to express their opinion.
I don't have to imagine, I KNOW how tedious this thread has become. BUT:
1. Howie taunted me to show my CV, but I chose to show his (in part).
2. YOu should have known by now that no post, no thread, is REQUIRED
reading for anyone. So, if you it has become tedious to YOU,
just don't read it!
See how simple it is, Dicky?
-- Bob.
Reef Fish
> Karen,
>
> Glad you think so. I hope that some of us don't.
Don't worry, Dick. I know MANY of "us" don't. So, are you the
Opinion rater of this newsgroup, it's god-chosen censor, or just
an officious busybody?
> --
> DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
> video...@comcast.netnospam
>
>
> "CupCaked" <karens...@cupcaked.com> wrote in message
> news:40bea96f...@news.optonline.com...
> >
> >
> > Bob, you're the "real" Deep Throat of this newsgroup. Keep the
> > exposes coming ... I love 'em :-)
Thank you, CupCaked. :-) I don't usually waste me time
exposing a few skeletons in posters' closets, but in the case
of Howie, he was so smug, and thought he was so clever in
setting up a bait for HIMSELF to brag about himself, I decided
to do part of his work for him.
Just call it PUBLIC SRRVICE. :-))
-- Bob.
Charles
<Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> apparently not recognizing my reply as a reply. Soooooo, I am
> deleting the "Re:" so that this can get posted.
I guess it never occured to a mental giant like yourself that the
reason you are having problems making followups from google groups is
using google groups as a newsreader is the problem. Get yourself a
proper Usenet newsreader and reply correctly instead of blaming others
for your problems.
--
Charles
Reef Fish
>
> > Impress me with your CV, Bob?
> >
> > Howie
>
> Howie, nobody can impress you -- a legend in your own mind. But I can
> try to give readers of RTC a glimse of your distinguished career, in
> academia and rec.travel.cruises, together with a few footnotes of mine
> indicated by "*":
>
> 2004: BS Artist, RTC, Anti-Anti-Smoking, Anti-Anti-Simitic Cop
> 2003: BS Apprentice, rec.travel.cruises, Closet Queen of newsgroup
> 1972: Ph.D., Cornell University ILR School, see M.S.
> 1971: M.S., Cornell, Organizational Behavior, Social Psychology
> 1968: B.A. cum laude, Brooklyn College, Psychology; Minor, Mathematics
>
> * by 1969, 3 doctoral students had already received their Ph.D. under
> * my direction. Of those three, one became Dean of a major Business
> * School; one became Dean of a liberal Arts College; and the third is
> * Chairman of a Department of Statistics.
I must hasten to correct myself of the "1969" typo, lest someone accuses
me of lying. It was 1979. The Business School Dean got his Ph.D. in
1977. The other two in 1979. Afterall, I didn't get my own Ph.D. till
1970.
But of course all this CV nonsense is entirely IRRELEVANT to any of the
discussion in this or other threads in rec.travel.cruises. It was just
Howie's mis-direction to try to cover up his own inadequacy, as proven
in the discussion on technical, statistical matters involving simple
statistical concepts and percentages.
But this USENET! Obfuscation and mis-direction is the modus operandi
of most posters. What Howie should need is Essen Eisenstein's First
First Law of Holes: "When you find yourself in one, stop digging!"
-- Bob.
Reef Fish
> In article <8fb7380b.04060...@posting.google.com>, Reef Fish
> <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > apparently not recognizing my reply as a reply. Soooooo, I am
> > deleting the "Re:" so that this can get posted.
>
> I guess it never occured to a mental giant like yourself that the
> reason you are having problems making followups from google groups is
> using google groups as a newsreader is the problem.
It was OBVIOUS that it was a problem using Google as a posting tool.
But that problem is NEW -- only occurred in the past couple of weeks.
Reading and making follow-ups from groups.google.com has advantages
FAR, FAR outweigh such a disadvantage, the chief one is that I always
read posts IN CONTEXT -- knowing who said what about MY posts, and
in what order, etc. Sometimes I am away for weeks without an access
to the internet, and when I return I can read the same thread(s) and
know exactly where the thread had gone had I been reading it weeks
earlier.
> Get yourself a
> proper Usenet newsreader and reply correctly instead of blaming others
> for your problems.
Google has a "newsgroup" reader that is specifically designed for
reading and looking up the arhcives in ALL newsgroups from 1981.
What do you mean a "proper Usenet newsreader"? If I have to name
ONE as the "proper" one, groups.google.com ("newsgroup" option)
would be it! I have plenty of newsreaders I loathe.
What do mean by "reply correctly"? Google finds the proper thread
and the proper place to slot those "no Re:" posts most of the time
anyway. It's YOUR problem if you can't follow what's going on or
who said what to whom, as clueless LOL Sunny whines on her web-tv.
-- Bob.
Charles
<Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
> Google has a "newsgroup" reader that is specifically designed for
> reading and looking up the arhcives in ALL newsgroups from 1981.
> What do you mean a "proper Usenet newsreader"? If I have to name
> ONE as the "proper" one, groups.google.com ("newsgroup" option)
> would be it! I have plenty of newsreaders I loathe.
Google groups is an archive. Good for looking up old dead posts or
research. It is a poor way to read live ongoing discussions. As you
noted in one of your posts it can take hours for a post to appear in
Google groups. Google groups uses a web based interface. That is clunky
for reading newsgroups. It is ironic that you complain about Webtv. You
don't have a clue about Usenet. I suggest you put your Mensa brain to
work and find out something about Usenet before putting your foot in
your mouth.
--
Charles
Jeff Coudriet
Reef Fish
> How is this about cruising?
You should have asked, Howie, Sunny, Goldhaber, and the rest of your
regulars and RTC award winners!
> Another tedious troll for the kill file.
You stuffed the wrong poster in your kill file.
No matter. Anyone who puts ANYONE in a kill fill is an Ostrich
sticking head in the sand, doing censorship the BLIND way, but
continues to make noise on smidgets s/he reads second-hand ...
hence belong to a well-known class of newsgroup readers:
BLIND Mental Midgets
Welcome to the Club, Jeff Coudriet.
-- Bob.
Reef Fish
> In article <8fb7380b.04060...@posting.google.com>, Reef Fish
> <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Google has a "newsgroup" reader that is specifically designed for
> > reading and looking up the arhcives in ALL newsgroups from 1981.
> > What do you mean a "proper Usenet newsreader"? If I have to name
> > ONE as the "proper" one, groups.google.com ("newsgroup" option)
> > would be it! I have plenty of newsreaders I loathe.
>
> Google groups is an archive.
You got that one right.
> Good for looking up old dead posts or research.
You are dead wrong. See my reply to your NEXT comment.
OR reading and posting in any newsgroup. Often while you are reading
or responding to a post, you NEED to look up other posts in the thread
that you get only through archives.
> It is a poor way to read live ongoing discussions.
That shows your INEXPERIENCE with using "archives" to read and post!
I use certain LISTSERV archives to read and post, in which posts
appear in the archives INSTANTLY (ok, a second or two), as soon a
I exit the SEND section to the archive READ section!
>As you
> noted in one of your posts it can take hours for a post to appear in
> Google groups. Google groups uses a web based interface. That is clunky
> for reading newsgroups.
Google acknowledges that it takes 3 to 9 hours for a post to appear,
depending on the traffic. I don't need a chat room. The delay is
a BLESSING in disguise -- think about it as you blurt out your posts
without sufficient thought, like the present one.
What do you think LISTSERV archives use? Web based interface.
> It is ironic that you complain about Webtv.
The complaint is about ITS inability to retain posts for a newsgroup
reader to retrieve! Those were the few occasions that the web-tv was
clogged for posts with reference numbers on it. It has nothing to do
with the speed of reading posts in newsgroups.
Furthermore, google POSTING never had any problem (of the web-tv kind)
retrieving posts sent from ANY of the ngs readers other than web-tv,
and never had any problem retrieving (in reply) to posts posted from
google (such as those of mine)!
> You don't have a clue about Usenet.
Before I make any brash statement about you (which is PROBABLY true),
when was the first time you ever used USENET? When was the first
time you ever used a PC of any kind? When was the first time you
ever used a digital computer of any kind?
> I suggest you put your Mensa brain to
> work and find out something about Usenet before putting your foot
> in your mouth.
The only feet I see are the ones dangling out of your mouth.
-- Bob.
Reef Fish
> In article <8fb7380b.04060...@posting.google.com>, Reef Fish
> <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Google has a "newsgroup" reader that is specifically designed for
> > reading and looking up the arhcives in ALL newsgroups from 1981.
> > What do you mean a "proper Usenet newsreader"? If I have to name
> > ONE as the "proper" one, groups.google.com ("newsgroup" option)
> > would be it! I have plenty of newsreaders I loathe.
>
> Google groups is an archive. Good for looking up old dead posts or
> research. It is a poor way to read live ongoing discussions.
> You don't have a clue about Usenet.
> I suggest you put your Mensa brain to work and find out something
> about Usenet before putting your foot in your mouth.
Look who is clueless! Google did it for me. You are the same Charles
as that clueless reader who couldn't figure out anything about where
a thread came from and didn't know how to find out, and I took the
time to draw a roadmap for him:
=========================>>>
Charles <fo...@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote in message news:<310520041914464330%fo...@his.com.remove.invalid>...
> But also what the heck did his post have to do with hurricane
> season 2004?
Aha! If you had a clue, you wouldn't have need to ask!
Learn how to use groups.google.com to read newsgroups. Then you
would've been able to read ALL (or any portion) of the this
thread of 171 articles, IN CONTEXT, and found out exactly how
it went from
hurricane in 2004 ... and insurance ... to
insurance is an unfavorable gamble ... to
how to decide rationally OR irrationally on insurance ... to
smoking on cruise ships ... to
Howie's rant on smoking, and anti-semiticism ... to
statistical studies on smoking and second hand smoke ... to
Howie's claim about his knowledge in statistics ... to
Howie's revelation that he was completely ignorant stat... to
Howie's pre-occupation and fixation on wanting to see MY CV ... to
The real reason for Howie's quest was to show every one that
he owns a stool, sometimes called a "chair" in his Dept. ... to
Throng of Mental Midgets <tm in newsgroups> contribute to the
noise why wondering what the noise was all about.
============================>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Clueless Charles continued:
> It is ironic that you complain about Webtv.
And you are the one who said,
> You don't have a clue about Usenet.
Webtv posting has been a long running JOKE in USENET!
From: Nina Lebowitz (benga...@earthlink.net)
Subject: GGC2005 Site & WebTV
Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises
Date: 2004-06-01 05:59:00 PST
> I've heard from several WebTV folks since last night. WebTV
> cannot handle the code that's being used for the menu on the
> left side of the screen.
On some extended header info for posts from webtv, there were
diagnostics that they were not in the suitable format for
newsgroup postings! Go find them, Charles.
-- Bob.
Cruising Chrissy
Fish) wrote:
>You stuffed the wrong poster in your kill file.
>
>No matter. Anyone who puts ANYONE in a kill fill is an Ostrich
>sticking head in the sand, doing censorship the BLIND way, but
>continues to make noise on smidgets s/he reads second-hand ...
>hence belong to a well-known class of newsgroup readers:
>
> BLIND Mental Midgets
>
>Welcome to the Club, Jeff Coudriet.
Yes, but Mr. Coudriet is known all over Usenet for announcing his
killfiles sorta like a hick who "manages deer" and claims his
masculinity at the local bar while swilling beer on his chin.
Robert Bob Edwards
cruising?"
Cruising Chrissy
I stole it from the Hypocrite who posted the non cruising info above.
I cannot tell a lie.