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Byker
Oct 12, 2020, 11:52:26 AM10/12/20
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The cruise ship industry is fast being wiped out by the Kung Flu, an entire
industry that is being destroyed. The other industry that will also soon be
gone will be the movie theater industry. Next, the powers-that-be will have
to admit that commercial air travel is basically done. The world is getting
very small, very fast. And not in the hippie-happy sense of "we’re all
connected now!" Line 'em up: https://tinyurl.com/yxmz7fmk
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Cruise ships dismantled for scrap metal as coronavirus pandemic sinks
industry
10/12/2020
Cruise ships are being dismantled and sold as scrap metal due to the
coronavirus pandemic all but destroying the global cruise industry.
Earlier this month, aerial footage shot by drones showed workers stripping
walls, windows, floors and railings from several vessels docked in Aliaga, a
town 45 kilometres north of Izmir on Turkey's west coast.
Three more ships are set to join five already being dismantled.
Chairman of a ship recycling industrialists' association, Kamil Onal, said
before the pandemic Turkey's ship-breaking yards typically handled cargo and
container ships.
"But after the pandemic, cruise ships changed course towards Aliaga in a
very significant way," he said.
"There was growth in the sector due to the crisis. When the ships couldn't
find work, they turned to dismantling."
The vessels have arrived for dismantling from Britain, Italy and the United
States.
Cruise ships were home to the some of the earliest clusters of COVID-19 as
the pandemic spread globally early this year.
In February, the Australian Government had to evacuate more than 150
Australians stuck onboard the Diamond Princess off Japan.
Weeks later, it ordered foreign-flagged cruise ships out of Australian
waters — a ban recently extended until at least December 17.
The now-infamous Ruby Princess was allowed to dock in Sydney, though, with a
special commission of inquiry finding the ship was linked to at least 28
deaths.
In March, US authorities issued a no-sail order for all cruise ships. It
remains in place.
Mr Onal said some 2,500 people worked at the yard in teams.
He said it took about six months to dismantle a full passenger ship.
The shipyard aimed to increase the volume of reclaimed steel to 1.1 million
tonnes by the end of the year, from 700,000 tonnes in January, he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-11/cruise-ships-dismanted-for-scrap-metal-coronavirus-covid-19/12752382
But that isn’t the point here.
The point is, whatever the tastefulness or morality of this industry, it is
an entire industry which is being destroyed. The other industry they are
preparing to admit is gone forever is slightly less obscene – the movie
theater industry.
Next, they’re going to have to admit that commercial air travel is basically
done.
The world is getting very small, very fast. And not in the hippy-happy sense
of “we’re all connected now!”
Rather, it’s getting smaller in the sense of the trash compactor on the
Death Star.
industry that is being destroyed. The other industry that will also soon be
gone will be the movie theater industry. Next, the powers-that-be will have
to admit that commercial air travel is basically done. The world is getting
very small, very fast. And not in the hippie-happy sense of "we’re all
connected now!" Line 'em up: https://tinyurl.com/yxmz7fmk
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Cruise ships dismantled for scrap metal as coronavirus pandemic sinks
industry
10/12/2020
Cruise ships are being dismantled and sold as scrap metal due to the
coronavirus pandemic all but destroying the global cruise industry.
Earlier this month, aerial footage shot by drones showed workers stripping
walls, windows, floors and railings from several vessels docked in Aliaga, a
town 45 kilometres north of Izmir on Turkey's west coast.
Three more ships are set to join five already being dismantled.
Chairman of a ship recycling industrialists' association, Kamil Onal, said
before the pandemic Turkey's ship-breaking yards typically handled cargo and
container ships.
"But after the pandemic, cruise ships changed course towards Aliaga in a
very significant way," he said.
"There was growth in the sector due to the crisis. When the ships couldn't
find work, they turned to dismantling."
The vessels have arrived for dismantling from Britain, Italy and the United
States.
Cruise ships were home to the some of the earliest clusters of COVID-19 as
the pandemic spread globally early this year.
In February, the Australian Government had to evacuate more than 150
Australians stuck onboard the Diamond Princess off Japan.
Weeks later, it ordered foreign-flagged cruise ships out of Australian
waters — a ban recently extended until at least December 17.
The now-infamous Ruby Princess was allowed to dock in Sydney, though, with a
special commission of inquiry finding the ship was linked to at least 28
deaths.
In March, US authorities issued a no-sail order for all cruise ships. It
remains in place.
Mr Onal said some 2,500 people worked at the yard in teams.
He said it took about six months to dismantle a full passenger ship.
The shipyard aimed to increase the volume of reclaimed steel to 1.1 million
tonnes by the end of the year, from 700,000 tonnes in January, he said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-11/cruise-ships-dismanted-for-scrap-metal-coronavirus-covid-19/12752382
But that isn’t the point here.
The point is, whatever the tastefulness or morality of this industry, it is
an entire industry which is being destroyed. The other industry they are
preparing to admit is gone forever is slightly less obscene – the movie
theater industry.
Next, they’re going to have to admit that commercial air travel is basically
done.
The world is getting very small, very fast. And not in the hippy-happy sense
of “we’re all connected now!”
Rather, it’s getting smaller in the sense of the trash compactor on the
Death Star.
Mr. Mag00
Oct 12, 2020, 2:46:56 PM10/12/20
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 10:52:17 -0500
"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
> Earlier this month, aerial footage shot by drones showed workers
> stripping walls, windows, floors and railings from several vessels
> docked in Aliaga, a town 45 kilometres north of Izmir on Turkey's
> west coast.
A lot of that goes on in Chittagong, Bangladesh, as well, with little
"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
> Earlier this month, aerial footage shot by drones showed workers
> stripping walls, windows, floors and railings from several vessels
> docked in Aliaga, a town 45 kilometres north of Izmir on Turkey's
> west coast.
concern for worker safety.
--
Lies, greed, envy, endemic corruption, hunger for power,
unbridled hate, institutional sociopathy...
The largest political terrorist organisation
in the Southern Hemisphere:
*Australian Labor Party - corrupt to the core*
Byker
Oct 12, 2020, 3:12:02 PM10/12/20
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"Mr. Mag00" wrote in message news:rm28at$dnr$1...@dont-email.me...
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 10:52:17 -0500
"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
>>
>> Earlier this month, aerial footage shot by drones showed workers
>> stripping walls, windows, floors and railings from several vessels docked
>> in Aliaga, a town 45 kilometres north of Izmir on Turkey's west coast.
>
> A lot of that goes on in Chittagong, Bangladesh, as well, with little
> concern for worker safety.
They'd starve without it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4cVGWTzKo8
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 10:52:17 -0500
"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
>>
>> Earlier this month, aerial footage shot by drones showed workers
>> stripping walls, windows, floors and railings from several vessels docked
>> in Aliaga, a town 45 kilometres north of Izmir on Turkey's west coast.
>
> A lot of that goes on in Chittagong, Bangladesh, as well, with little
> concern for worker safety.
Phantom_View
Oct 13, 2020, 12:58:11 AM10/13/20
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"Cruises" are DEATH. Everybody knows it.
It is the END of that "industry" for a long time to come.
Norovirus was the sign, COVID was the hammer.
A pity to junk all the ships though .... gotta be some other
uses for them. The ultrarich could BUY them as private
yachts ............
It is the END of that "industry" for a long time to come.
Norovirus was the sign, COVID was the hammer.
A pity to junk all the ships though .... gotta be some other
uses for them. The ultrarich could BUY them as private
yachts ............
Phantom_View
Oct 13, 2020, 1:12:00 AM10/13/20
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They are just VIRAL DEATH.
A. Filip
Oct 13, 2020, 1:33:42 AM10/13/20
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Darwin Theory is about total wipe outs or *survival* of he fittest?
Even in your scenario it makes sense to preserve (small?) holdouts for
faster/easier restart after a few years.
--
A. Filip
| It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever
| final. (Roger Babson)
Keema's Nan
Oct 13, 2020, 5:00:10 AM10/13/20
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On 13 Oct 2020, Phantom_View wrote
(in article<encaofpj7np7cl4pv...@4ax.com>):
Better still, just scuttle them around the English fishing conservation
areas. That would stop foreign fishing vessels from trawling and destroying
our seas; and would create protected breeding areas for what is left of our
fish stocks.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/09/revealed-97-of-uk-
offshore-marine-parks-subject-to-destructive-fishing
(in article<encaofpj7np7cl4pv...@4ax.com>):
areas. That would stop foreign fishing vessels from trawling and destroying
our seas; and would create protected breeding areas for what is left of our
fish stocks.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/09/revealed-97-of-uk-
offshore-marine-parks-subject-to-destructive-fishing
Busta Capp
Oct 13, 2020, 2:47:29 PM10/13/20
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"A. Filip" wrote in message news:anfi+c5zck...@wp.eu...
nouveau riche, interracial couples, queers, vegans, eco-kooks, and
animal-rights wackos...
>
> Even in your scenario it makes sense to preserve (small?) holdouts for
> faster/easier restart after a few years.
That "restart" will probably be in the form of charter cruises for the
> Even in your scenario it makes sense to preserve (small?) holdouts for
> faster/easier restart after a few years.
nouveau riche, interracial couples, queers, vegans, eco-kooks, and
animal-rights wackos...
Keema's Nan
Oct 13, 2020, 3:11:48 PM10/13/20
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On 13 Oct 2020, Busta Capp wrote
(in article<AvCdnZlgyPGkaxjC...@earthlink.com>):
In which case, let's hope they run into a cat 5 hurricane.
(in article<AvCdnZlgyPGkaxjC...@earthlink.com>):
Byker
Oct 13, 2020, 6:21:56 PM10/13/20
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"Keema's Nan" wrote in message
news:0001HW.2536336C00...@news.giganews.com...
news:0001HW.2536336C00...@news.giganews.com...
>> That "restart" will probably be in the form of charter cruises for the
>> nouveau riche, interracial couples, queers, vegans, eco-kooks, and
>> animal-rights wackos...
>
> In which case, let's hope they run into a cat 5 hurricane.
The snobs deserve it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgKLrUP-IyU
>> nouveau riche, interracial couples, queers, vegans, eco-kooks, and
>> animal-rights wackos...
>
> In which case, let's hope they run into a cat 5 hurricane.
Phantom_View
Oct 13, 2020, 9:41:32 PM10/13/20
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But the things are loaded with oils and plastics and toxic
paint and ...........
Floating amusement areas, shops ... might be popular in
some places. A few people ARE rich enough to use at
least the shorter ships as yachts. Some extra hospital
ships might be wise, C-19 will not be the last epidemic
after all. Maybe Musk can take off the top and launch and
recover rockets ?
In any case, it is a horrible waste to just scrap the things.
Keema's Nan
Oct 14, 2020, 6:07:20 AM10/14/20
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On 14 Oct 2020, Phantom_View wrote
(in article<8dlcofh2spedvgqci...@4ax.com>):
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 10:00:03 +0100, Keema's Nan
> <fruity...@bungay.com> wrote:
>
> > On 13 Oct 2020, Phantom_View wrote
> > (in article<encaofpj7np7cl4pv...@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > "Cruises" are DEATH. Everybody knows it.
> > >
> > > It is the END of that "industry" for a long time to come.
> > > Norovirus was the sign, COVID was the hammer.
> > >
> > > A pity to junk all the ships though .... gotta be some other
> > > uses for them. The ultrarich could BUY them as private
> > > yachts ............
> >
> > Better still, just scuttle them around the English fishing conservation
> > areas. That would stop foreign fishing vessels from trawling and destroying
> > our seas; and would create protected breeding areas for what is left of our
> > fish stocks.
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/09/revealed-97-of-uk-
> > offshore-marine-parks-subject-to-destructive-fishing
>
> Not the worst idea actually ....
>
> But the things are loaded with oils and plastics and toxic
> paint and ...........
Well yes, but I was assuming all potentially harmful material would have been
removed prior to the sinking.
We are talking nature conservation.
>
>
> Floating amusement areas, shops ... might be popular in
> some places. A few people ARE rich enough to use at
> least the shorter ships as yachts. Some extra hospital
> ships might be wise, C-19 will not be the last epidemic
> after all. Maybe Musk can take off the top and launch and
> recover rockets ?
>
> In any case, it is a horrible waste to just scrap the things.
Although think of the thousands of tons of turds which are now going to
sewage farms rather than just being dumped into the oceans every night.
(in article<8dlcofh2spedvgqci...@4ax.com>):
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 10:00:03 +0100, Keema's Nan
> <fruity...@bungay.com> wrote:
>
> > On 13 Oct 2020, Phantom_View wrote
> > (in article<encaofpj7np7cl4pv...@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > "Cruises" are DEATH. Everybody knows it.
> > >
> > > It is the END of that "industry" for a long time to come.
> > > Norovirus was the sign, COVID was the hammer.
> > >
> > > A pity to junk all the ships though .... gotta be some other
> > > uses for them. The ultrarich could BUY them as private
> > > yachts ............
> >
> > Better still, just scuttle them around the English fishing conservation
> > areas. That would stop foreign fishing vessels from trawling and destroying
> > our seas; and would create protected breeding areas for what is left of our
> > fish stocks.
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/09/revealed-97-of-uk-
> > offshore-marine-parks-subject-to-destructive-fishing
>
> Not the worst idea actually ....
>
> But the things are loaded with oils and plastics and toxic
> paint and ...........
removed prior to the sinking.
We are talking nature conservation.
>
>
> Floating amusement areas, shops ... might be popular in
> some places. A few people ARE rich enough to use at
> least the shorter ships as yachts. Some extra hospital
> ships might be wise, C-19 will not be the last epidemic
> after all. Maybe Musk can take off the top and launch and
> recover rockets ?
>
> In any case, it is a horrible waste to just scrap the things.
sewage farms rather than just being dumped into the oceans every night.
Busta Capp
Oct 14, 2020, 8:58:16 PM10/14/20
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"Keema's Nan" wrote in message
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>
> Although think of the thousands of tons of turds which are now going to
> sewage farms rather than just being dumped into the oceans every night.
Shit has been going into the world's oceans since the appearance
> Although think of the thousands of tons of turds which are now going to
> sewage farms rather than just being dumped into the oceans every night.
of the first multicellular organism four billion years ago...
Busta Capp
Oct 19, 2020, 6:15:11 PM10/19/20
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"news18" wrote in message news:rm5pv9$uk$1...@dont-email.me...
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 21:41:25 -0400, Phantom_View wrote:
>>
>> In any case, it is a horrible waste to just scrap the things.
The cruise lines will start with their oldest ships, sending them
off to the breakers as the passenger lists -- and profits -- shrink.
> Some of these ships are not built for maintenance. It might cost more/the
> same/close to the cost to strip and reline compared to the cost of a new
> ship. Hint. some ships are built from the ground up with the engine(s)
> going in just after the bottom of the hull is laid, and they are thus not
> maintainable, so they have to be considered as very worn.
At a billion bucks a pop nowadays, they better figure some way of
recouping their costs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-E8rFt5Cvo
They're no good if they become floating "pest houses":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLzEkge8wW0
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 21:41:25 -0400, Phantom_View wrote:
>>
>> In any case, it is a horrible waste to just scrap the things.
off to the breakers as the passenger lists -- and profits -- shrink.
> Some of these ships are not built for maintenance. It might cost more/the
> same/close to the cost to strip and reline compared to the cost of a new
> ship. Hint. some ships are built from the ground up with the engine(s)
> going in just after the bottom of the hull is laid, and they are thus not
> maintainable, so they have to be considered as very worn.
At a billion bucks a pop nowadays, they better figure some way of
recouping their costs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-E8rFt5Cvo
They're no good if they become floating "pest houses":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLzEkge8wW0
Keema's Nan
Oct 20, 2020, 8:18:01 AM10/20/20
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On 19 Oct 2020, Busta Capp wrote
(in article<e9mdnaUk7KV1khPC...@earthlink.com>):
> "news18" wrote in message news:rm5pv9$uk$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 21:41:25 -0400, Phantom_View wrote:
> > >
> > > In any case, it is a horrible waste to just scrap the things.
>
> The cruise lines will start with their oldest ships, sending them
> off to the breakers as the passenger lists -- and profits -- shrink.
>
> > Some of these ships are not built for maintenance. It might cost more/the
> > same/close to the cost to strip and reline compared to the cost of a new
> > ship. Hint. some ships are built from the ground up with the engine(s)
> > going in just after the bottom of the hull is laid, and they are thus not
> > maintainable, so they have to be considered as very worn.
>
> At a billion bucks a pop nowadays, they better figure some way of
> recouping their costs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-E8rFt5Cvo
Only a mere billion? I’m surprised Bill Gates doesn’t have one, in order
to experiment with how many minions he would need to keep him and his cronies
in the lifestyle he demands while being able to sail as far away from the
pandemic, and then WW3, as possible.
I see Trump is going to lift the ban on cruise ships in the US just before
election day, in another example of his desperate search for someone to vote
for him.
(in article<e9mdnaUk7KV1khPC...@earthlink.com>):
> "news18" wrote in message news:rm5pv9$uk$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 21:41:25 -0400, Phantom_View wrote:
> > >
> > > In any case, it is a horrible waste to just scrap the things.
>
> The cruise lines will start with their oldest ships, sending them
> off to the breakers as the passenger lists -- and profits -- shrink.
>
> > Some of these ships are not built for maintenance. It might cost more/the
> > same/close to the cost to strip and reline compared to the cost of a new
> > ship. Hint. some ships are built from the ground up with the engine(s)
> > going in just after the bottom of the hull is laid, and they are thus not
> > maintainable, so they have to be considered as very worn.
>
> At a billion bucks a pop nowadays, they better figure some way of
> recouping their costs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-E8rFt5Cvo
to experiment with how many minions he would need to keep him and his cronies
in the lifestyle he demands while being able to sail as far away from the
pandemic, and then WW3, as possible.
I see Trump is going to lift the ban on cruise ships in the US just before
election day, in another example of his desperate search for someone to vote
for him.
Byker
Oct 20, 2020, 2:17:51 PM10/20/20
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"Keema's Nan" wrote in message
news:0001HW.253F0CF200...@news.giganews.com...
>> At a billion bucks a pop nowadays, they better figure some way of
>> recouping their costs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-E8rFt5Cvo
> Only a mere billion? I’m surprised Bill Gates doesn’t have one
There will be shitloads of them on the market before long, each going for
>> recouping their costs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-E8rFt5Cvo
> Only a mere billion? I’m surprised Bill Gates doesn’t have one
pennies on the dollar, with shareholders leaping tall buildings in a single
bound, top-to-bottom:
https://www.cruisehive.com/cruise-features/top-10-expensive-cruise-ships-in-world
Some of the smaller ones could be converted into luxury yachts:
http://cybercruises.com/orderbook.htm
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