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Joe

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Was reading some reviews on cruises, and I came upon one were the person was
complaining about noise levels because his cabin was located right under the
Theatre stage. My question is, in general, what are the noise levels like
on inside cabins? Are you able to hear your neighbours quite easily (and
vice versa), as well as noise from the cruiseship itself? Like ship engine,
creaking and groaning of the hull? I will most likely be going with the
RCCL Visions of the Seas to Alaska and can only afford and inside cabin. So
I'd imagine that conditions may not be the most favourable, or am I wrong?
If one is placed in an undesirable cabin, I imagine that one could complain
to the pursor and asked to be moved? Or are we basically stuck where we are
for the whole trip?


Thanks

Raoul Fiebig

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Hi Joe!

Some ships are really poorly soundproofed, while others are very well
soundproofed. There are ships where you can hear it when your neighbours are
combing their hair (no joke - this actually was the case on the "Norway"),
while there are others where you won't hear it if your neighbours start a loud
argument.

You will be able to hear creaking almost exclusively on older ships. What is
more evident on newer ships (and it can be really troublesome) are engine
vibrations. Again, there are ships where nothing is evident, while there are
others where almost every single glass on board clinks all the time.

I would really try to avoid a cabin under a public room or at least under a
galley, stage, dance floor, gym etc.


Regards from Germany,

Raoul Fiebig


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Joe

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I guesss if I am in a cat. Q on the Visions of the Sea cruise, I will not
have any real choices in cabins. I will basically be put into wherever they
put me.


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Greg Miller

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Joe,

I came back from excursion about 4 pm to our cat 2 on Galaxy (deck 10,
veranda outside) and our neighbors were "renewing their wedding vows"
and I was amazed just how much you can hear. Normal conversation at
75dB is not heard, but anything above, is. On upper decks you don't hear
any ship noises except people running in the morning if you're below
the track (Horizon). I've heard reports that in the stern you can hear and
feel propeller effects. But in general, modern ship cabins are reasonably
quiet. As for getting moved, don't count on it. All the celebrity cruises
I've
taken are 100% booked.

Greg

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CBenn92586

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You can hear everything. Once, I overheard some guys plotting to kill
somebody. They had this plan to. . .wait a minute. . .that was on the phone. .
.anyway, it turned out that they were plotting to kill. . .no. . .oh yeah,
that was a movie. Sorry. Sometimes I get them confused.

Neal Brown

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We were on the Carnival Celebration a few years ago and had an inside
cabin that was apparently right below the galley. There a loud door
slamming that would make me almost jump out of the bed. The ship had a
vibration that made me want to go out and fix the flat tire we were
driving on. In addition, when the disco closed, the people in the
cabins on either side would come in, very loud. I don't think they even
realized how loud they were. Just in case, I'm taking some ear plugs
for this next cruise. All in all, it was a miserable cruise for me,
although my wife and daughters did not seem to mind. My son had an
inside cabin forward and it was nice and quiet. Live and learn
hopefully.

Neal

scott

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We also were on the Celebration a while back. Out of New
Orleans.
Our cabin was U221 right at the rear. I wanted that cabin
because it has a large window with an unobstructed veiw. You
could even sit in the window ledge and look out.

Cabin was a big mistake, you could hear a low growl the whole
time and it got louder for periods. Also the vibration from the
props was unreal. Even when on the bed you could feel it.

I don't think I'll ever take a cabin at the rear again, mid to
front only.

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Lmvine1

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>My question is, in general, what are the noise levels like
>on inside cabins?

Really depends. I am a light sleeper so it is important to me.
Wwe have had a cabin where the steam pipes went through and it was bad at
night. Also under galley where they were cleaning up at 2 AM was also bad.
Got moved both times (on Celebrity).

Pay attention to what is under or over or next to (elevator) the cabin on the
ship layout. Getting between two decks with cabins above and below is best
IMO. More engine noise lower but that is not bad noise, it's the startiling
crash that is unnerving at 2 AM. Dan

Julie Holm

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Am I wrong? I thought that the RCCL ships had all the staterooms on
one side of the ship and the public rooms on the other.

I have read that there is some noise from the engines, sometimes, but
being below or above noisy public rooms should not be a problem?

I'm booked on an inside guarantee, and plan not to worry about noise
any more than I would if I were in a hotel.

Julie

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"Joe" <arth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Was reading some reviews on cruises, and I came upon one were the
person was
> complaining about noise levels because his cabin was located right
under the

> Theatre stage. My question is, in general, what are the noise
levels like


> on inside cabins? Are you able to hear your neighbours quite easily
(and
> vice versa), as well as noise from the cruiseship itself? Like ship
engine,
> creaking and groaning of the hull? I will most likely be going with
the
> RCCL Visions of the Seas to Alaska and can only afford and inside
cabin. So
> I'd imagine that conditions may not be the most favourable, or am I
wrong?
> If one is placed in an undesirable cabin, I imagine that one could
complain
> to the pursor and asked to be moved? Or are we basically stuck where
we are
> for the whole trip?
>
> Thanks
>
>


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ALadyNCal

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I had an inside cabin on the Ocean Princess, completely forward. Among other
things, we could hear:

1. Nearby crew doors popping shut constantly
2. Tremendous noise in the a.m. with breakfast trays being delivered
3. Our next door neighbor's wake up call

We thought it would be quiet since we were at the last row at the front of the
ship (because that was all that was available).

Our dinner companions had an inside on that ship under one of the bars and said
that entertainers practiced in there about 2 a.m. & it bothered them (but they
were also noise sensitive enough to bring an electric "white noise" machine).

I would have serious doubts about getting them to move you over a 'noise'
issue.

If in doubt, take ear plugs!

Ray Goldenberg

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On Fri, 05 May 2000 15:33:47 GMT, in rec.travel.cruises you wrote:

>Am I wrong? I thought that the RCCL ships had all the staterooms on
>one side of the ship and the public rooms on the other.

Hi,

Royal Caribbean has cabins on both sides of the ship. I don't know of
any ships that have cabins on one side and public rooms on the other
side.

Best regards,
Ray
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Julie Holm

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Sorry, I meant one end of the ship. Looking at the deck plans it looks
like the front of the ship is mostly rooms (except at the top levels,
where it is public decks) and the aft of the ship is mainly public
rooms. Am I wrong? Are they interspersed? If so I don't know how to
read the deck plans.

Julie

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Linsifer

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I've been on 3 Carnival cruises so far and two of the times I was aft and even
though we had engine noise when we docked in a port, it was fine the rest of
the time. I rather liked being awakened by the sound of the ship manueuvering
into a port! It was my "wake-up" call! The other time I was literally the first
cabin up on the Empress deck--E-1. NEVER AGAIN! We ran into VERY rough seas and
this was NOT the cabin to be in! In the meantime, I've booked a cruise on the
Elation for 2001 and I picked MID ship Upper deck. This is also the only ship
with the new Azi-pod system which eliminates some of the "stuff" inside like
certain propellars and rudders. The ship is pulled though the water as opposed
to being pushed.

Desiree

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In article <J%tQ4.203865$Dv1.2...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>, "Joe"
<arth...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> Was reading some reviews on cruises, and I came upon one were the person was
> complaining about noise levels because his cabin was located right under the

> Theatre stage. My question is, in general, what are the noise levels like


> on inside cabins? Are you able to hear your neighbours quite easily (and
> vice versa), as well as noise from the cruiseship itself? Like ship engine,
> creaking and groaning of the hull? I will most likely be going with the
> RCCL Visions of the Seas to Alaska and can only afford and inside cabin. So
> I'd imagine that conditions may not be the most favourable, or am I wrong?
> If one is placed in an undesirable cabin, I imagine that one could complain
> to the pursor and asked to be moved? Or are we basically stuck where we are
> for the whole trip?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>

No you can't probably get another cabin. Mostly their all booked full.
But the noise isn't so bad, you can hardly hear a thing!

Desiree

Joe

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Whats an electric white noise machine?


"ALadyNCal" <alad...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I had an inside cabin on the Ocean Princess, completely forward. Among
other
> things, we could hear:
>
> 1. Nearby crew doors popping shut constantly
> 2. Tremendous noise in the a.m. with breakfast trays being delivered
> 3. Our next door neighbor's wake up call
>

> We thought it would be quiet since we were at the last row at the front of
the


> ship (because that was all that was available).
>
> Our dinner companions had an inside on that ship under one of the bars and
said
> that entertainers practiced in there about 2 a.m. & it bothered them (but
they
> were also noise sensitive enough to bring an electric "white noise"
machine).
>
> I would have serious doubts about getting them to move you over a 'noise'
> issue.
>
> If in doubt, take ear plugs!
>

Julie J.

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alad...@aol.com wrote in message:

"Our dinner companions had an inside on that ship under one of the bars
and said that entertainers practiced in there about 2 a.m. & it bothered
them (but they were also noise sensitive enough to bring an electric
"white noise" machine)."

______

I wouldn't travel _anywhere_ without my white noise/sound conditioning
machine. I have a smaller one that I took on our last cruise, and we
had good nights. I highly recommend them to anyone who is bothered by
noises, or ringing in the ears, while trying to sleep. JJ


Sandra Field

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Joe, Where would they move you if all of the cabins are full?


Sandra Field

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My husband and I was on the tropicale in January. We were on a lower
level at the very front of the boat. We had a porthole. The noise was
unbelievable. We had high seas one night and we were hitting the waves
head on. In our room it sounded like a slamming door every time we hit a
wave. Every noise you could imagine we heard. I think we had one of the
worst rooms on the boat. Needless to say, I never got one minute of
sleep that night which really ruined the next day for me because I was
exhausted.


E. Blair

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In article <J%tQ4.203865$Dv1.2...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
"Joe" <arth...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My question is, in general, what are the noise levels
> like on inside cabins?

Joe, here's my take:

I'm a fairly light sleeper, but after a hard day (and night) of
cruising, a thundering herd of buffalo through the passageway in front
of my cabin door wouldn't bother me. Just returned from 7 days on RCCL
Grandeur (Eastern Caribbean) and I can not remember a time being
disturbed by the neighbors. We were 4th (main) deck, midships, outboard
(go to RCCL's website, look for 4544 on Grandeur). It was a midgrade
cabin, and the worst I can say is that when people were running up and
down the hallway about 3AM one time, I stirred briefly.

You'll be so exhausted after a day of fun, you could sleep on a deck
chair on the promanade deck.

Someone told me prior to the cruise that cabin assignment didn't really
matter, as long as you had a bed. The only time you spend there is
sleeping, showering, and changing clothes. It's true. Don't get too
hung up on cabin assignment (unless you're looking for a balcony, ocean
view, which I'm definitely considering next time).

Linsifer

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You wrote:

This sounds just like the experience we had 8 years ago on the Jubilee when it
was sailing to the Mexican Riviera. We were "upgraded" to the Empress
deck---outside---BUT in cabin E-1---the VERY first one up front! We ran into
some VERY rough seas and just like you described, it felt like were banging
down on something all night. The ship would literally crash down as the waves
came up. Not only were we horribly seasick, but we layed there awake almost
fearing that we were hitting something! It really was not a pleasant
experience. From now on, if I can't have a midship cabin, I'll go with aft.

Art

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The Captain's quarters perhaps? I'm sure its pretty damn quiet
there...hahaha


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Art

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Is that one of those headphone noise cancelling things?
Please explain?

Thanks


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Ron Kinner

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Art wrote:
>
> Is that one of those headphone noise cancelling things?
> Please explain?
>
> Thanks
>

Art,

I think they are just talking about a device which makes a constant
noise. Sort of like tuning an FM radio between stations or a loud
window AC. The idea is that it's not the level of noise which keeps
keeps you awake but the changes. A high level of constant noise will
mask out most of the annoying sounds which wake you up or keep you from
sleeping.

I've seen them advertized in the catalogs on airplanes but I am sure you
can get them elsewhere for less.

Ron

Julie J.

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arth...@yahoo.com (Art) wrote in message:

" Re: Noise levels in cabins?

Is that one of those headphone noise cancelling things? Please explain?

Thanks"

_________

Well, it's kind of the same theory, but not the same...LOL! There are
many companies that make noise conditioners (they call them different
things) that you can often choose which sound you prefer to fall asleep
by...babbling brook, ocean waves (like you'd need that on a ship!),
summer night, surf, rain, etc.....

Mine has a volume control too. Some of them you can set a timer so it's
not on all night...I prefer to leave mine on all night. Some come with
AC adapters or some just run on batteries.

Marsona is one company who makes the more expensive ones. I ordered
mine some years ago through JC Penney's catalog. They are more
expensive, but they generally play louder (good for me) and I've been
able to buy a replacement AC transformer when I got a short in one.

Other dept. stores carry different ones that may not cost as much. Ask
them if you can plug one in to test it in the store if they don't have a
demo model there.

Hope this helps! I recommend them to any light sleeper! JJ


Jean V. O'Boyle

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Hi Art, These devices may be purchased in Sharper Image stores
and catalogs. I am a very light sleeper and my son got me one.
I always take it no matter where or how we travel. It has "white
noise" (sounds like static similar to when your TV station goes off
the air) or you can choose cricket, frog, rain, brook running and ocean
wave sounds. You set whichever works best for you. It has a volume
control and a 45 minute timer also. I just leave it on all night. Click on
the link below to see it. The price currently quoted is $99., but they
go on sale occasionally~~my son purchased mine for $50. They may
be less in department stores or in "big box" stores like Service
Merchandise and Circuit City. Hope this helps!
Jean
http://sharperimage.com/ProductDisplay.jsp?name=SI426


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> Is that one of those headphone noise cancelling things?
> Please explain?
>
> Thanks
>
>

baylorn

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We had problems on the Triumph on our last cruise with teens in
the next cabin partying on the balcony until the wee hours. We
bought ear plugs in a drugstore at the first port and slept like
babies the rest of the cruise.

Earplugs pack easily, taking up little room, and are very
reasonably priced. They are on my list of things to pack for any
trip [cruise or otherwise] in the future.

Nancy

Linsifer

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You wrote:

<<We had problems on the Triumph on our last cruise with teens in
the next cabin partying on the balcony until the wee hours>>

I was wondering about this since I'll be staying in an outside cabin in cat. 6C
on the Elation right next to the first balcony suite. I sure hope they put
someone mellow next to us! :-) Our cabin will be right next to their balcony.

Art

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Sounds like a good idea, but $99 for an item like this seems abit steep?
I suppose cheaper earplugs would suffice? But getting up on time might be a
different story with them on! :)


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Lmvine1

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>Sounds like a good idea, but $99 for an item like this seems abit steep?
>I suppose cheaper earplugs would suffice? But getting up on time might be a
>different story with them on! :)
>
>
Even earplugs don't provide enough sound deadening for me if the noise is loud
and random.

Here is a low cost approach to try before spending $100. Get a 4.5 inch
muffin fan that runs on 115 VAC and moves a lot of air (~100CFM) and plug it
in on the table next to you. You want a loud one. Constant "white" noise for
less than $10. Try at home before the trip.
Dan

Julie Holm

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Agreed. We learned our lesson during a week in New Orleans, where our
hotel room looked out onto Canal Street, which was busy with truck
traffic all night.

We always carry earplugs, and buy them in bulk (since we are
motorcyclists and also use them when riding.) Seems a fair precaution.

Julie

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baylorn <mart...@epix.net> wrote:
> We had problems on the Triumph on our last cruise with teens in

> the next cabin partying on the balcony until the wee hours. We
> bought ear plugs in a drugstore at the first port and slept like
> babies the rest of the cruise.
>
> Earplugs pack easily, taking up little room, and are very
> reasonably priced. They are on my list of things to pack for any
> trip [cruise or otherwise] in the future.
>
> Nancy
>
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ALadyNCal

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I've seen them down to $20-40 now. Even some drug stores have them.

Edward M Hass

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JC Penney has a variety in their catalog too.

Heidi

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ginny

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>Get a 4.5 inch
>muffin fan that runs on 115 VAC and moves a lot of air (~100CFM) and plug it
>in on the table next to you.

What on earth is a muffin fan? And VAC? And CFM? (I do have a white noise
machine for which I paid $99 and haven't regretted it for a minute. It's small
and goes on every trip with me.)

Your Name

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muffin fan=small high output fan
VAC=volts A/C (alternating current)
CFM=Cubic Feet per Minute (measure of fan efficiency)
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