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Ray Goldenberg

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May 30, 2003, 9:12:13 AM5/30/03
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Hi Everyone,

I have confirmed that Royal Caribbean's Voyager of the Seas will sail
from New York City in 2004. She will alternate a 9-night Caribbean
with a 5-night Canadian cruise. She is tentatively scheduled to
visit Labadee, Ocho Rios, Freeport, and Georgetown on her Caribbean
run. The plans are for her to call at St. John & Halifax on her
Canadian itinerary. The plans are for her to sail May 16 to October
22 from NYC. If you have missed any of my news' postings, they are
available on my web site.

Best regards,
Ray
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Kevin and Sue Mullen

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May 30, 2003, 10:49:53 AM5/30/03
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Ray Goldenberg wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have confirmed that Royal Caribbean's Voyager of the Seas will sail
> from New York City in 2004. She will alternate a 9-night Caribbean
> with a 5-night Canadian cruise. She is tentatively scheduled to
> visit Labadee, Ocho Rios, Freeport, and Georgetown on her Caribbean
> run. The plans are for her to call at St. John & Halifax on her
> Canadian itinerary. The plans are for her to sail May 16 to October
> 22 from NYC. If you have missed any of my news' postings, they are
> available on my web site.


Hi Ray,

Any idea what day of the week, the caribbean sail would start on. I hope
it would include both weekends, requiring less vacation time.

sue

Sgt. Pete

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May 30, 2003, 11:42:41 AM5/30/03
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What does this mean for the Explorer and Navigator on Saturday. I wonder if
they will change the departure day?
"Ray Goldenberg" <r...@lighthousetravel.com> wrote in message
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B D

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May 30, 2003, 12:34:36 PM5/30/03
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Is it true The NCL DAWN is to cruise from NYC year around ?

Ray Goldenberg

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May 30, 2003, 12:48:04 PM5/30/03
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On Fri, 30 May 2003 06:12:13 -0700, Ray Goldenberg
<r...@lighthousetravel.com> wrote:

>The plans are for her to call at St. John

Hi Everyone,

A small correction. The port of call is properly referred to as Saint
John. Thank you Lisa! <;+)

Ray Goldenberg

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May 30, 2003, 1:03:30 PM5/30/03
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On Fri, 30 May 2003 12:34:36 -0400 (EDT), bob...@webtv.net (B D)
wrote:

>Is it true The NCL DAWN is to cruise from NYC year around ?

Hi,

Yes it is. The press releases have been posted here on r.t.cruises.
If you have missed them, they are archived in the "News" section of my
web site.

Steve Buch

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May 30, 2003, 11:23:39 PM5/30/03
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OK, Jeff. This is your chance to try a Voyager Class ship! Could you
deny me and Robert the chance to watch you and Norma climb the rock wall?

- Steve B.

RICK DAVIS

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May 31, 2003, 12:01:57 AM5/31/03
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Spoke to RCCL tonight (1-800-327-6700). Not the normal reservation
number. I was told to call this special number ( from reservations
number 1-800-949-5570) but don't really know where or what this
department was. But anyhow......Yes this 9 day sailing is in the system
but the ports of call are not yet set in stone. Neither is the sail
date. I told the representative that I read the sail date as being
05/22/04 (according to Ray's post) which would be a Saturday. But the
woman corrected me and said she was showing the sail as being 05/21/04
(a Friday). She showed that tentatively the Ports Of Call would be:
Friday - Sailing
Saturday - At Sea
Sunday - At Sea
Monday - Labadee, Haiti
Tuesday - Grand Cayman
Wednesday- Ocho Rios, Jamaica
Thursday - At Sea
Friday - Freeport, Bahamas
Saturday - At Sea
Sunday - New York

The RCCL Rep. did say that being no prices were in the system this was
all subject to change. But being the schedule was in the system the
prices should follow any day now.

Don't know about any of you but Boy am I excited over this.
Thanks Ray for the Great News!! All this information came directly from
RCCL.

RICK DAVIS

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May 31, 2003, 12:22:21 AM5/31/03
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I would have like to see RCCL do away with Jamaica and go to Coz.
Mex. instead.

RICK DAVIS

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May 31, 2003, 12:49:02 AM5/31/03
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Ray, I stand corrected you said May 16th....must be her first Canada
run. I thought I read your report as being May 22nd.....My bad.

Jeff Coudriet

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May 31, 2003, 8:47:29 AM5/31/03
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Steve,

I don't think so! Maybe if there was a gold watch prize at the top or
something like that. But yes, we'd be interested in the Voyager out of
NY, and 9 days is a great getaway....prices for these sailings will go
sky high I bet!

Jeff

RICK DAVIS

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May 31, 2003, 4:11:14 PM5/31/03
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Ray, In your opinion when do you think the rates and final
itinerary will be set and published? I mean with less than 12 months
until the first sailing I would think it would have to be soon. Your
opinion.

Ray Goldenberg

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May 31, 2003, 10:20:47 PM5/31/03
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Hi Rick,

I am fairly certain we should have within the next 2-4 weeks.

Christina

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Jun 1, 2003, 1:20:53 PM6/1/03
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I was just talking to my spouse about this last night. Having just
returned from 2 weeks on that beautiful ship, it is depressing to me
that she will be relegated to such a dismal itinerary for the next two
years. What a waste, although I'm sure they'll book her week in and
week out.

Chris

Charles

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Jun 1, 2003, 1:38:08 PM6/1/03
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In article <tadkdvci6l5lu25gk...@4ax.com>, Christina
<chris...@usa.com> wrote:

> I was just talking to my spouse about this last night. Having just
> returned from 2 weeks on that beautiful ship, it is depressing to me
> that she will be relegated to such a dismal itinerary for the next two
> years. What a waste, although I'm sure they'll book her week in and
> week out.

In what regards do you consider it a dismal itinerary? It is similiar
to it's present itinerary. Since this class ship is a destination to
itself I don't think it matters that much anyway.

--
Charles

CupCaked

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Jun 1, 2003, 3:27:31 PM6/1/03
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Charles <fo...@his.com.remove.invalid> wrote:

True. I was ready to book one of the RCI mega-ships, and it didn't
much matter where it went. The ship *is* THE destination, and now
she's coming to my neck of the woods. I think that's great!

Karen



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RICK DAVIS

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Jun 2, 2003, 6:51:36 AM6/2/03
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Karen, I agree with you 100%. If the prices are not too out of control
I plan on sailing this ship again. It offers everything that anyone
could want in a Cruise. I am so happy this ship is coming to NY.
I wish they would just publish the prices.

Ray Goldenberg

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Jun 2, 2003, 9:41:51 AM6/2/03
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On Fri, 30 May 2003 06:12:13 -0700, Ray Goldenberg
<r...@lighthousetravel.com> wrote:

>Hi Everyone,
>
>I have confirmed that Royal Caribbean's Voyager of the Seas will sail
>from New York City in 2004. She will alternate a 9-night Caribbean
>with a 5-night Canadian cruise.

Hi Everyone,

Here is the press release confirming the information that I previously
posted to r.t.cruises. If you have missed any of my news' postings,


they are available on my web site.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com


Royal Caribbean International's Voyager of the Seas to Sail From New
York City in 2004

World's Largest and Most Innovative Cruise Ship to Offer Caribbean and
Canada Itineraries

MIAMI, June 2
Royal Caribbean International today announced that Voyager of the Seas
-- the ship that redefined America's perception of cruise vacations --
will offer alternating nine-night Caribbean and five-night Canada
cruises from New York City, from May through October 2004. The
sailings mark the first time a Voyager-class ship -- the world's
largest and most innovative cruise ships -- has been home-based
outside Florida or San Juan.

Launched in late 1999, Voyager of the Seas propelled the industry into
the 21st century with an unprecedented design and onboard activities
that changed the face of cruising. In addition to its sheer size --
142,000 GRT, 1,020 feet long, 157.5 feet wide, 3,114 passengers double
occupancy -- Voyager of the Seas introduced a number of revolutionary
features, including the Royal Promenade, a "horizontal atrium," four
decks high and longer than a football field, running through the
center of the ship and lined with shopping, dining and entertainment
venues; the first interior staterooms with views; and the first
rock-climbing wall and ice skating rink at sea.

"Voyager of the Seas is the embodiment of the 'Get out there' spirit
that has become Royal Caribbean's trademark," said Dan Hanrahan,
senior vice president, Marketing and Sales, for Royal Caribbean
International. "Voyager introduced exciting onboard experiences and
adventures that remain unparalleled in the cruise industry today and
have made many people realize there is more to cruising than they may
have previously believed."

With 15 passenger decks, Voyager of the Seas includes activities and
amenities designed to appeal to a variety of travelers, including
active adults, families with kids of all ages, singles and couples. In
addition to the rock-climbing wall and ice skating rink, Voyager has a
mini golf course, in-line skating track, golf simulator, jogging
track, full basketball court, three pools, six whirlpools, an
adults-only Solarium, and 15,000-square-foot ShipShape Fitness Center
and Spa.

For kids, the extensive Adventure Ocean youth program facilities
feature dedicated areas for five age groups, a teen disco and the
Adventure Beach pool and play area for younger children.

Dining options include a magnificent, three-story, traditional dining
room; the Windjammer Cafe and Island Grille casual buffets; the Cafe
Promenade sidewalk cafe; a Johnny Rockets diner; and the Portofino
Italian specialty restaurant.

On the entertainment front, Voyager of the Seas guests enjoy full
production shows as well as headline musical and comedy acts in the
1,350-seat La Scala theater; a casino with nearly 300 slot machines as
well as craps, poker and roulette tables; a two-story disco/nightclub
called the Vault; and a variety of additional bars and secondary
lounges such as the Weekend Warrior sports bar, the Champagne Bar, the
Aquarium Bar and Royal Caribbean's signature Viking Crown Lounge,
which is perched at the top of the ship and offers panoramic views of
sea and sky.

Voyager of the Seas' New York season runs from May 16 to Oct. 22,
2004. She will sail alternating Caribbean and Canada itineraries. The
nine-night Caribbean cruises stop in four ports of call: Royal
Caribbean's private destination of Labadee, Hispaniola; Ocho Rios,
Jamaica; George Town, Grand Cayman; and Freeport, Grand Bahama Island.
Prices start at $899 per person, double occupancy.

Voyager of the Seas' five-night Canada itineraries include stops in
Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Saint John, New Brunswick. Prices start at
$579 per person, double occupancy.

Royal Caribbean International is a global cruise brand currently with
16 ships in service and three more under construction. For additional
information about the cruise line, please contact your travel
professional.

Christina

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Jun 2, 2003, 12:31:49 PM6/2/03
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In that regard, you are right, Karen. The other discussion we had was
about how we are going to just sail sometime and cut out a lot of the
shore excursions. This last trip took us to so many islands we hadn't
been to before, we wore ourselves out with excursions. The NY
itinerary just may be perfect to enjoy the beautiful ship and stay on
board. Maybe for our 30th in August??? What you say babe?

Chris

On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:27:31 GMT, karen...@cupcaked.com (CupCaked)
wrote:

Cruising Queen

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Jun 2, 2003, 1:10:03 PM6/2/03
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On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 12:31:49 -0400, Christina <chris...@usa.com>
wrote:

>In that regard, you are right, Karen. The other discussion we had was
>about how we are going to just sail sometime and cut out a lot of the
>shore excursions. This last trip took us to so many islands we hadn't
>been to before, we wore ourselves out with excursions.

Ill bet you went to sleep every night early and abstained from alcohol
too.

> The NY
>itinerary just may be perfect to enjoy the beautiful ship and stay on
>board. Maybe for our 30th in August??? What you say babe?

You call your husband "Babe"? Like the pig movie?

Russell Patterson

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Jun 3, 2003, 5:37:35 PM6/3/03
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Seconded

TO REPLY-@optonline.net Rich Cacace

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Jun 3, 2003, 6:09:57 PM6/3/03
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I really think they stop at Jamaica because there's nowhere else to go in
that area. With so many ships out there & so few ports to chose from what
other island could they choose? I for one would rather go anywhere else.
"Russell Patterson" <russ...@aol.com> wrote in message
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RICK DAVIS

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Jun 4, 2003, 7:15:09 AM6/4/03
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Well at least go to Montego Bay and drop Ocho Rios. I mean is
there anyone who likes this stop and really looks forward to it?? I
don't know of anyone who does.

Lunyma

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Jun 4, 2003, 8:20:11 AM6/4/03
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> Well at least go to Montego Bay and drop Ocho Rios. I mean is
>there anyone who likes this stop and really looks forward to it?? I
>don't know of anyone who does.

I happen to like Ocho Rios. My DH and I became very friendly with a couple who
are tour operators, and enjoy spending time with them...


Pam :)
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Charles

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Jun 4, 2003, 11:44:29 AM6/4/03
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In article <21956-3E...@storefull-2292.public.lawson.webtv.net>,
RICK DAVIS <RICK...@webtv.net> wrote:

I can't say I look forward to it but I have no problem with this stop.
I always get off the ship and do something there. I think a Caribbean
itinerary out of New York is going to have limitations because of the
distance. New York would be a perfect starting point for a ship having
Cuba on the itinerary. Maybe some day. I wonder what Freeport is like?
I think that the Voyager itinerary is better than the NCL Dawns, and
with Voyager the itinerary is of lesser concern.

--
Charles

Lola

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Jun 4, 2003, 3:10:41 PM6/4/03
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"RICK DAVIS" <RICK...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Well at least go to Montego Bay and drop Ocho Rios. I mean is
> there anyone who likes this stop and really looks forward to it?? I
> don't know of anyone who does.
>
Well, I would look forward to seeing Dunn's River Falls once anyway.

Laura


Bonnie Voyager

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Jun 4, 2003, 4:12:59 PM6/4/03
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I also enjoy Ocho Rios and look forward to returning on yet another
cruise. Jamaica is a beautiful island. You just have to know where
to go and where "not" to go.

TO REPLY-@optonline.net Rich Cacace

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Jun 4, 2003, 4:58:51 PM6/4/03
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I hate to go to any Island where I have to know "where "not" to go". I
know, I know all Islands have their bad sections & you have to be careful
but when it's as bad a Jamaica is, I can do without it. Most people don't
realize that in St. Thomas the street behind the main shopping street at
night becomes one of the largest drug exchanges on the Island. This might
have changed lately but I still shop there with out fear. I can't say the
same about Jamaica. They've built up a bad reputation over the years & it's
going to take many years to undo it. Unfortunately for majority of the
residents who are law abiding they are the ones who have to suffer. It's a
good day to stay on the ship.

"Bonnie Voyager" <bonnie...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:d4fad814.03060...@posting.google.com...

EileenMcDonald

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Jun 4, 2003, 8:41:58 PM6/4/03
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>>> Well at least go to Montego Bay and drop Ocho Rios <<

Been to Montego Bay, once. Only port stop we'd never do again. Wouldn't even
get off the ship. Ocho Rio is so much more preferable.

Eileen


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EileenMcDonald

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Jun 4, 2003, 8:46:49 PM6/4/03
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>> I wonder what Freeport is like? <<

We stopped at Freeport on one of our cruises. It was a make up port
stop....we were supposed to do 2 private islands stops (Labadee was the
other P.I.)...bad weather prevented us from stopping at Coco Cay...Freeport
was nice, we liked it and wouldn't mind visiting again.

EileenMcDonald

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Jun 4, 2003, 8:49:24 PM6/4/03
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>> Well, I would look forward to seeing Dunn's River Falls once anyway.

Laura <<

I did Dunn's River on my very first cruise...LOVED IT! Would do it again in
a heartbeat. It was a ships excursion...we no longer do ships excursions,
though.

Charles

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Jun 4, 2003, 9:15:10 PM6/4/03
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In article <ZpwDa.44493$DV.6...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>,
EileenMcDonald <EileenM...@attbi.com> wrote:

> Freeport was nice, we liked it and wouldn't mind visiting again.

That is good to hear. Since I have never been to Freeport, visiting a
new port would be another plus to me for booking Voyager on this new
itinerary.

--
Charles

RICK DAVIS

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Jun 4, 2003, 9:52:44 PM6/4/03
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On my last visit to Ocho Rios last month I did my own tour of the
falls (again) then went into town to the Passage To India Rest/bar for a
couple of cold ones with the bartender we've become friends with over
the years. This rest/bar in on the rooftop of one of the recommended
shopping centers. Then back to the ship. In those 4 hours I was
propositioned by 5 (very very nasty) hookers, offered pot, cocaine and
and a baggie full of some kind of pills. Yea, thats a place I really
want to go back to. None of the other eastern or western stops am I
approached like this. Some might think thats a bad thing....I don't.

Lola

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Jun 4, 2003, 11:25:39 PM6/4/03
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"RICK DAVIS" <RICK...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Did they go away without hassling you when you said no, or were they
persistent? If a stern "no" sent them away, I could deal with it. If not,
I would find the experience very disturbing.

Laura


RICK DAVIS

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Jun 5, 2003, 6:31:17 AM6/5/03
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The drug pushers and the hookers (all but 1 hooker) took no for an
answer. The one hooker kept following us and pawing at us. I finally
stopped and asked her not to touch me and stop following me. When I say
she was nasty I mean it. Who knows the filth and disease she had on
her. Finally she did stop when she saw a new perspective customer.
Its just known the police are on the take from these people. Our
bartender friend told us that the drug pushers pay off the cops to not
hassle them and let them sell their drugs to the tourists. I'm sure
the hookers pay them also to work the cruise ship area. I'm sure the
police would step in if any tourist was about to get hurt but it should
never have to get that far.

Scott Probeck

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Jun 5, 2003, 8:24:00 PM6/5/03
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Forget Jamaica totally the people act like a zoo there and there are
many other nicer places that make you feel comfortable the cruise lines
should wake up to this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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