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Thomas Hinrichs

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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Has anybody run into the fake Rolex's that I've heard they sell in some
of the Mexican ports? If so, what kind of prices have they been asking
for them and has anybody bought one? A friend just returned from a week
in Cancun and bought one for $50.00. I've not seen the watch yet but he
says it looks pretty real, and for the price it should be a good
conversation piece. Our cruise goes to Cozumel and Calica, so I'm
wondering if anyone has seen them in these two places.

Thanks
T.R.

villa deauville

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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Tom
You dont have to go to Mexico to buy a Rolex? If you ever dock in St.
Martin they have them there.

SUNNY<........Rolex,Timex, Citizen they all look alike


urchins

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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Thomas: We just returned from Cartagena and my husband purchased a fake
Rolex there. It's great. Ok, it's fake, but it's great fun. And we had
the best time negotiating the deal. If you really want one that looks real,
make sure you get one with a sweep second hand...it must not click....the
sweep is what people look for in a true Rolex. Also, if you can see the
works through the back glass, that's an up too. Another thing, weigh the
one you're interested in in your hand, it should feel heavy. The "vendors"
have almost empty watches and then heavy ones....you definitely want a heavy
one because you do actually want it to tell some kind of time -- even if
it's only correct twice a day! Back to negotiating. When we got out of the
car, the guy said my husband could have it for $185. We said no way.
After much running up and down the street, my husband came back to me (I was
the bad cop in the good cop/bad cop routine) and said he was down to $50. I
made a big show of shaking my head and looking like a nag. Off we go again.
He finally came down to $35 and I (mean that I am) said, no way, darling
husband, you don't need another watch. Then we're getting back in the cab
to go back to the ship and I give my husband $30 (so the guy can see how
controlling I am) and tell him "this is it, if he won't take it, get in the
cab" (see, I told you I was mean). Husband gets in cab with fake Rolex for
$30, happy as a clam. The down side is we get back to California and all
male members of the family call us cheap for not getting them "Rolex's" too.
It's a wonderful conversation piece and my husband loves it. He's planning
on wearing it on our next cruise....he'll be the one in the wonderful tux
and the spiffy (you can't tell 'cos you're not a jeweler, we hope) Rolex.
Absolutely James Bond. We know it's a put-on, but it's great fun and that's
part of the fun of cruising. Go for it.

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Ernest Jones

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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I bought a fake Rolex on the street in NYC for $25!!!

Ernest Jones
Retired Music & Cruise Crazy Brit.
On Sunny Isles Beach
Life is an Opera


Charles

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Feb 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/22/00
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"Thomas Hinrichs" <T.R.Hi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> Has anybody run into the fake Rolex's that I've heard they sell in some
> of the Mexican ports? If so, what kind of prices have they been asking
> for them and has anybody bought one? A friend just returned from a week
> in Cancun and bought one for $50.00. I've not seen the watch yet but he
> says it looks pretty real, and for the price it should be a good
> conversation piece. Our cruise goes to Cozumel and Calica, so I'm
> wondering if anyone has seen them in these two places.

They sell these for $20 to $25 on the street in New York City. I have a
couple sitting in a drawer. As a conversation piece, I would say it is a
pretty short conversation. I have never seen them in Cozumal , but I did not
look for them either. There is nothing at Calica but a dock so you will not
find them there.

Larry Simon

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Feb 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/23/00
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I bought a couple of these in San Juan for $25 each. I also bought one a
few years earlier in New York for $30 and got the guy to throw in a "Monte
Blanc" pen!


luvto...@webtv.net

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Feb 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/24/00
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There are fake Rolexes that run on batteries and ones which have
self-winding mechanisms.
The latter are more authentic and more expensive.


Paul Schilter

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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FYI - A real one does click, only it does it 5 times per second so it does
sort of look like a sweep second hand rather than the cheap fakes that click
once per second. In reference to the comment about seeing the works through
the back glass, I've never seen a real one that had this feature, at least
mine doesn't.

urchins wrote:
>
>snipped> If you really want one that looks real,

Ernest Jones

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Feb 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/25/00
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Let's call them "faux" not "fake" Let's face it they are one of the best
buys on the market!

Charles

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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"MMastell" <mmas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> There are no Rolex watches that have a glass back design.
> It is interesting that people think it is o.k. to purchase a fake watch.
It
> violates copyright, patent and trade laws. It is basically stealing. I
don't
> think anyone would appreciate it if they developed something of quality
and had
> someone knocking off cheap imitations of it.

You mean like Windows? Which was Bill Gates' knock off and cheap imitation
of the Mac. The thief was Bill Gates, not the people who buy Windows.

Charles

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Feb 26, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/26/00
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"Everett A. Shogren" <eas...@home.com> wrote in message
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> The Mac was in turn lifted from Zerox

Zero is pretty close. Xerox had a great research lab with some great ideas
but they built and developed zero, nothing.

MMastell

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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There are no Rolex watches that have a glass back design.
It is interesting that people think it is o.k. to purchase a fake watch. It
violates copyright, patent and trade laws. It is basically stealing. I don't
think anyone would appreciate it if they developed something of quality and had
someone knocking off cheap imitations of it.

My 2 cents.
MMas...@aol.com

Everett A. Shogren

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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The Mac was in turn lifted from Zerox

Charles wrote:

> "MMastell" <mmas...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20000226210614...@ng-cm1.aol.com...
>

Gadge...@webtv.net

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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Fake watches, like fake everything are worth less than nothing!

Fortunately, for all you fakers, the criminals know the genuine article
or it may get you killed on your next cruise. Many people in Florida who
wear the real Rolex to the supermarket get followed home and are killed
and robbed of their Rolex. Men wearing Rolex watches to bars find that
women want to go home with them. The women drug the guys, rob them of
their Rolex and any other valuables they can get from their house and
flee in the man's car.

Perhaps the street vendors in Mexico,and the Caribbean really know the
mentality of many cruisers who's motivation in life is to "look rich"
with his $30 Rolex and $599 cruise to be admired by others rather than
simply having a good time himself.

Inspector Gadget


Michael Brennan

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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In article <sn9u4.5922$84.7...@alfalfa.thegrid.net>, John Bowen wrote:
>Windows from Apple? Apple from Xerox? How about Xerox from the ARPA Rand
>Tablet? And the RAND Tablet from the IBM Sage System, and IBM from Herman
>Hollerith's 1890 tabulating machines and Herman got his ideas from a French
>knitting machine I understand, but that was slightly before my time. John
>B And the beat goes on.
>
>"Charles" <fo...@his.com.remove_invalid> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Everett A. Shogren" <eas...@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:38B8948F...@home.com...
>>
>> > The Mac was in turn lifted from Zerox
>>
>> Zero is pretty close. Xerox had a great research lab with some great ideas
>> but they built and developed zero, nothing.
>>
>>
>
>

No the Alto was a great machine as well as Staroffice or Star back in 1980.
Too bad they could not translate this into a commercial success.


-- mikeb
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Michael Brennan, Internet: mikeb@*nospame*.neta.com
NetFX, Inc.

Charles

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Feb 27, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/27/00
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"MMastell" <mmas...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I have no problem if someone develops a product that looks like another or
has
> equivalent functionality. It is just when they say it "is" that product
and
> copy the trademarked and copyrighted logos , then I feel it is stealing.

I have no problem with going after the manufacturers of the fake Rolex's.
The way I read your post there is the implication that those who buy the
watches are stealing and violating copyright etc. Perhaps that is not what
you mean. You can not expect the ordinary person to understand copyrights,
trademarks etc.

Go Fig

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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In article <38b9d...@news1.his.com>, "Charles" <fo...@his.com.remove_invalid>
wrote:

Wait a second... someone goes looking for a 10K Rolex and gets one for 40 bucks...
you dont need to be a member of the bar to know something is VERY wrong.

jay
Sun, Feb 27, 2000
mailto:go...@mac.com

--

Legend insists that as he finished his abject...
Galileo muttered under his breath: "Nevertheless, it does move."

Charles

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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"Go Fig" <go...@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Wait a second... someone goes looking for a 10K Rolex and gets one for 40
bucks...
> you dont need to be a member of the bar to know something is VERY wrong.

Of course they know it is a copy but they don't think "wrong". The average
"man on the street" does not know about copyrights and trademarks. They
don't think like a lawyer. They are not that educated. They don't have the
concept that harm is being done to Rolex by the knock off. And in this case
the harm is the violation of trademark as it is not likely that those who
bought the knock off for $25 did so instead of purchasing the real thing for
$10,000. They think this is clever and fun, they can buy something for $25
that looks the same and tells time as well as the watch someone spends
thousands of dollars to buy. Rolex has every right to go after the
manufacturers and distributors of these knock offs to protect their rights.
But we should lighten up on the Joes who buy these watches.

rwebster

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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"Charles" > wrote

>The average
> "man on the street" does not know about copyrights and trademarks. They
> don't think like a lawyer. They are not that educated

Ever here the term "Educated Idiot"?

Robyn>>>
"The difference between genius and
stupidity is that genius has its limits."
- Albert Einstein


Paul Schilter

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Feb 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/28/00
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Skip, FWIW my Rolex has a plastic crystal. It's about 12 years old and in the
gold/stainless version that's what was offered. Now I believe this model
comes with the sapphire crystal. One advantage on mine, the minor scratches
on the crystal can be buffed out. This watch is one of the few items I own
that has increased in value.

Skip wrote:
>
> Years ago, while on temp activity duty with the US Coast Guard, I
> were in the American Virgin Islands. I bought a "genuine" Rolax watch
> for $5. The amazing thing was that it kept great time for about a year, even
> after the plastic crystal cracked.
>
> Skip

watchdept

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May 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/5/00
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If your looking to purchase a HIGH quality Replica you will
find the very largest selection at www.shopwithus.theshoppe.com
I bought one and have to say that it is the best I've seen right
down to the serial #'s stamped on the casing and band. The
weight was also like that of an original with a sweep second
hand and 21 jewel perpetual movement. The are currently having a
contest that will be giving away two watches a week valued
between $135-$175.

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Carole Dunham

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May 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/6/00
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Quit advertising!
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Horace Turell

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May 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/6/00
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I bought two fake Rolex in Hong Kong for $20 each. Others got them for
$15. They are selling them on the beach in Ventura and in Nogales for
the same price.

luvto...@webtv.net

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There are two kinds of fake Rolexes--those with quartz movements and
those with self-winding mechanisms. The ones with quartz movements are
the ones that sell for $15-$20.


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