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John Pelchat

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Mar 26, 2004, 10:31:35 AM3/26/04
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My family is taking a cruise aboard a Royal Caribbean Line ship in a
few weeks and I am looking for some common sense advice regarding
leaving cameras and other valuables in the cabin while we are out
running around. I recognize that there are no absolutes (all good or
all bad) but I wonder how prevalent is theft aboard the typical cruise
vessel and what steps can be taken to protect valuables.

Thank you in advance for your replies.

John Pelchat

Kevin Stock

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Mar 26, 2004, 10:38:07 AM3/26/04
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You'll have a safe in your room big enough for cameras jewelry and lots of
other stuff. Use it and you should be all set. I had a laptop with me and
left it out secured with a security cable.

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Juliana L Holm

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Mar 26, 2004, 10:35:16 AM3/26/04
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John Pelchat <pel...@charter.net> wrote:
> My family is taking a cruise aboard a Royal Caribbean Line ship in a
> few weeks and I am looking for some common sense advice regarding
> leaving cameras and other valuables in the cabin while we are out
> running around. I recognize that there are no absolutes (all good or
> all bad) but I wonder how prevalent is theft aboard the typical cruise
> vessel and what steps can be taken to protect valuables.

We have cruised and repeatedly left cameras, videocameras and even a laptop in
our cabin. We have never had a problem (only 3 cruises, though).

Julie
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HDawson228

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Mar 26, 2004, 11:06:34 AM3/26/04
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I've had the very same experience as Julie.
I've always found that hotel workers and stewards on cruise ships take great
pride in their position of responsibility. Also it's very easy to track
recuring thefts and the cruiseline would terminate the contracts of anyone with
strong suspicion. But I do think stuff in your cabin is safe.

Squabble

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Mar 26, 2004, 11:16:06 AM3/26/04
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John not to worry I have taken many a cruise and never had a single item go
missing, use the safe in the room for your most expensive items and relax
and enjoy all the cruise has to offer you. I have lost more items with the
airlines, this is where you will have to worry about items. I find this to
be true in airports where checked luggage is hand checked (airports that
don't have top line x-ray etc.) So when you get on the ship leave your
worrys behind and get into the mood that most of us do when we get on board.
Enjoy that care free vacation that you want..... And most of all Have
fun.


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RICK DAVIS

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Mar 26, 2004, 11:58:04 AM3/26/04
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I have gone as far as leaving cash (change from the casino) in a glass
on the counter. Nothing has ever been taken. But for my personal stuff
(jewlery, wallet, passport, ect.) I do use the safe. Just use common
sense...

Heather

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Mar 26, 2004, 12:22:02 PM3/26/04
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Just don't leave any soda out....it will be gone. Mini bar re-stocks are
another way the "help" boosts.

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PARNAMI

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Mar 26, 2004, 12:34:37 PM3/26/04
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> I am looking for some common sense advice regarding
>leaving cameras and other valuables in the cabin while we are out

If you have a cabin with a verandah, MAKE CERTAIN TO LOCK THE VERANDAH DOOR!
Tell your steward to do the same!

People tend to look out from their cabins and get a false sense of security,
seeing nothing but empty ocean. Fact is, you are mere inches from your
neighbors on either side and, on most ships, it's a simple matter for thieves
to hop from balcony to balcony.

Cruising is like being awake, and dreaming!

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Lee

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Mar 26, 2004, 1:47:53 PM3/26/04
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"Kevin Stock" <kms...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<c41ip4$9nu$1...@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>...

> You'll have a safe in your room big enough for cameras jewelry and lots of
> other stuff. Use it and you should be all set. I had a laptop with me and
> left it out secured with a security cable.

The safes I've had, on an assortment of ships, have been on the small
size - fine for a pocket camera, but more elaborate a rig might not
fit as easily.

That said, I really wouldn't worry too much about the safety of items
left in your cabin. You don't hear much about theft...if it was an
issue, I'm sure we'd be hearing more about it.

I've been on two cruises with cabins that don't have locks on the
doors - no problems there, either.

Lee

John Pelchat

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Mar 27, 2004, 12:20:42 AM3/27/04
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Thank you to all for your replies.

Smooth seas and a following wind

John

RICK DAVIS

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Mar 27, 2004, 10:28:41 AM3/27/04
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Parnami, Don't loose too much sleep over the balcony climbing theory.
There are security cameras (mounted under the bridge) that are pointed
along the balcony cabins. They would see anyone who was attempting to
do this.
Anyone who would even consider doing this is one nervy cat burgler.

Cruising Chrissy

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Mar 27, 2004, 12:30:08 PM3/27/04
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On 26 Mar 2004 07:31:35 -0800, pel...@charter.net (John Pelchat)
wrote:

> I am looking for some common sense advice regarding
>leaving cameras and other valuables in the cabin while we are out
>running around.

Common sense will tell you that you shouldn't do that. Don't believe
that only you and your CS have access to your room. Hundreds may have
or could easily have.

> I recognize that there are no absolutes (all good or

>all bad)..

Correct.

> but I wonder how prevalent is theft aboard the typical cruise
>vessel and what steps can be taken to protect valuables.

How would we know?

As for the safes being safe, if they are electronically programmed, no
problem to erase the PROM and/or recode it.

Heather

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Mar 27, 2004, 4:59:24 PM3/27/04
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> a following wind

Not if they are serving bean dip! Onions are evil too!

Heather

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Mar 27, 2004, 5:09:17 PM3/27/04
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>There are security cameras (mounted under the bridge)

You mean at the wing stations.....

> that are pointed
>along the balcony cabins. They would see anyone who was attempting to
>do this.
>Anyone who would even consider doing this is one nervy cat burgler

Okay...so it is safe to leave very expensive things lying around a
stateroom...NOT. If you don't care if you ever see something again, treat it as
such. In addition, even the Ship's "Safety Deposit" Storage usually has some
disclaimer and indemnification clause(s) attached to it. 1. If it's valuable,
treat it as such. 2. If it's valuable, insure it.

PARNAMI

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Mar 27, 2004, 9:26:42 PM3/27/04
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>Parnami, Don't loose too much sleep over the balcony climbing theory.
>There are security cameras (mounted under the bridge) that are pointed
>along the balcony cabins

Yes, you are right, and, AFTER the fact, they'll know for certain how the cabin
was accessed, but, that doesn't mean they'll catch the thief in the act, or,
that the video will produce an image good enough, even to identify the crook.
The balcony hopping is becoming fairly common among some of the more daring,
less intelligent passengers.

Cruising Chrissy

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Mar 28, 2004, 1:08:04 AM3/28/04
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On 28 Mar 2004 02:26:42 GMT, par...@aol.com (PARNAMI) wrote:

>Yes, you are right, and, AFTER the fact, they'll know for certain how the cabin
>was accessed, but, that doesn't mean they'll catch the thief in the act, or,
>that the video will produce an image good enough, even to identify the crook.

Wait a minute. If Crook A crosses over Balcony wall X (or many X's)
and has to return, in reverse order, or jump into the sea, you telling
me that the ship video can't track that?

PARNAMI

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Mar 28, 2004, 1:14:51 PM3/28/04
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>Wait a minute. If Crook A crosses over Balcony wall X (or many X's)
>and has to return, in reverse order, or jump into the sea, you telling
>me that the ship video can't track that?

yep..but there's no guarantee they'll catch it in real time...maybe, only after
the fact. In fact, I'd say, that' it's unlikly to be caught as it occurs.
Plus, I'd not be too expectant of quality resolution.

Plus..he doesn't have to return via the balcony. Once inside the cabin, he's
free to exit via the door.

Dick Goldhaber

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Mar 28, 2004, 4:46:15 PM3/28/04
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You people have watched "To Catch a Thief" too many times.

We have left film and video cameras and cell phones out, and while we always
put wallets and jewelry in the safe, thousands of dollars worth of personal
possessions are always unlocked in our cabin.

Your hypothesis is flawed.
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RICK DAVIS

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Mar 28, 2004, 4:46:21 PM3/28/04
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Some of you worry WAY too much! If your worried lock it up . THEY
PROVIDE YOU WITH A SAFE....USE IT.

Surfer E2468

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Mar 28, 2004, 8:00:14 PM3/28/04
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Not all ships provide safe's,on some you must get a box at the purser's
desk,not very convenient,so we find out first if there is a safe,and
pack accordingly,ie no expensive jewlery etc.

clint

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Mar 28, 2004, 9:06:31 PM3/28/04
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PARNAMI

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Mar 28, 2004, 9:33:15 PM3/28/04
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>You people have watched "To Catch a Thief" too many times.
>
>We have left film and video cameras and cell phones out, and while we always
>put wallets and jewelry in the safe, thousands of dollars w

LOL..I've never had a problem either! BUT, since someone had obvious concerns
about security, I thought I'd mention the balcony door. It happens, and is
bound to happen more in the future. But, just as every unlocked home doesn't
get burgled, neither will the majority of unlocked cabins.

Delcia O'Connell

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Mar 28, 2004, 9:42:39 PM3/28/04
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My husband and I have only been one cruise NCL Majesty 01/03/04. We
had no problems .Anything we left out was always right where we left it
when we got back. There is a safe in the room ( small) where you can
leave your cameras, etc. We are sailing RCCL Mariner on 11/14/04. very
excited, have heard great things about the ship.
Have a wonderful time

Cruising Chrissy

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Mar 29, 2004, 8:24:35 AM3/29/04
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 16:46:15 -0500, "Dick Goldhaber"
<video...@comcast.net> wrote:

>You people have watched "To Catch a Thief" too many times.
>
>We have left film and video cameras and cell phones out, and while we always
>put wallets and jewelry in the safe, thousands of dollars worth of personal
>possessions are always unlocked in our cabin.
>
>Your hypothesis is flawed.

First, it's not a hypothesis since video surveillance is fact. Second,
b/c you left $$$$$$ items out that were not stolen only means that you
are lucky...so far.

Jim

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Apr 21, 2004, 1:06:15 AM4/21/04
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I use the cabin safe. If I had a laptop, I'd consider getting a cable
lock to anchor it. It's not so much the staff per se, but I've seen
several cabins open at a time with the steward going back and forth
and it'd only take a moment for an enterprising thief to nip in and
grab something like a laptop and boogie while no one was watching.

There's often a lot of free-roaming teenagers on board and teen and
young adult males are the highest crime demographic far and away, so
why give someone an opportunity "Dude! It was like just sitting there
and saying 'take me!'."

Make sure you password protect your laptop also..do you really want
someone else having access to anything you might have on it or using
your cell phone to call everyone in Finland? ;0

Where there is no temptation, there is no need for virtue.

Jim P.

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HDawson228

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Apr 21, 2004, 8:39:24 AM4/21/04
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After many years of travel including 14 cruises I've found that hotel
housekeeping staffs and cruise ship stewards take great pride in their position
of trust. Common sense, by all means, but I think you can rest easy as far as
staff or crew are concerned.
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