Can't Tender to Port - Rough Seas and Bad Weather
Brian K
ports where tendering is not doable. These very same ships tenders are
to be used as life boats if need be. Now, my question is this, if they
can't be used to tender in rough seas, how well will they fare as life
boats under the same conditions. Or, will they only be fair weather
life boats?
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> Now, my question is this, if they can't be used to tender in rough seas,
> how well will they fare as life
> boats under the same conditions.
Don't know but in this situation there is no alternative.
Jaap van Dorp
unload passenger all day long, Safety is of most concern but comparing
lifeboat operations with Passengers getting on and off bouncing boatd with
alms full of goodies bought on Islands is Quit an other story.
Jaap
"Brian K" <brian1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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number6
> Cruise Ships concerned with the safety of passengers have often canceled
> ports where tendering is not doable. These very same ships tenders are
> to be used as life boats if need be. Now, my question is this, if they
> can't be used to tender in rough seas, how well will they fare as life
> boats under the same conditions. Or, will they only be fair weather
> life boats?
>
The safety issue is getting on and off the tender ... If being used to
evacuate the ship ... that risk becomes tolerable ...
Charles
<7faaed8a-d11f-4ca2...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
number6 <snum...@aol.com> wrote:
> The safety issue is getting on and off the tender ... If being used to
> evacuate the ship ... that risk becomes tolerable ...
Right the main issue is not the tenders themselves but getting on and
off but if the seas are very rough the boat ride is not pleasant. The
worst experience I had was tendering to Key West of all places which is
usually a docking stop. People were throwing up and we were also soaked
with water. They probably should have canceled that port call.
Also the life boats are only sometimes used as tenders. At some ports
there are tenders from the port are usually used. Grand Cayman comes to
mind. And Labadee they don't use the lifeboats.
When used to evacuate a ship that is a different purpose. Like that
recent ship that sunk in the Antarctica sea. Even if the seas are very
rough, taking to the life boats, the passengers would fare better than
going down with the ship.
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Charles
Marsha
> People were throwing up...<snip>
This is what I needed to see while eating dinner <g>
Marsha/Ohio
number6
> Charles wrote:
> > People were throwing up...<snip>
Charles meant to add ... their arms in disbelief at the conditions ...
Charles
<58031703-9a24-4971...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
number6 <snum...@aol.com> wrote:
> Charles meant to add ... their arms in disbelief at the conditions ...
Speaking of disbelief, on all the cruises I have been on that missed
ports because of rough seas there were "second guessers" who thought it
was not that rough, that they knew better, and that the port should not
have been skipped.
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Charles
Kurt Ullman
Brian K <brian1...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Cruise Ships concerned with the safety of passengers have often canceled
> ports where tendering is not doable. These very same ships tenders are
> to be used as life boats if need be. Now, my question is this, if they
> can't be used to tender in rough seas, how well will they fare as life
> boats under the same conditions. Or, will they only be fair weather
> life boats?
BIG difference in liability and other issues when discussing
mandatory evacuation than when discussing trips to shore.
number6
> In article
> <58031703-9a24-4971-af4c-fc61f46a5...@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
>
> number6 <snumb...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Charles meant to add ... their arms in disbelief at the conditions ...
>
> Speaking of disbelief, on all the cruises I have been on that missed
> ports because of rough seas there were "second guessers" who thought it
> was not that rough, that they knew better, and that the port should not
> have been skipped.
I wonder if they feel the same way when an airplane pilot doesn't land
on a runway covered with snow ...
C'mon pilot/airport controller or whoever ... We can make it ... land
the plane ...
Will Main
(nearly) motionless from the davits. When tendering they are lowered into
the water with only a couple of crew onboard then loaded alongside a ship in
possibly rough seas.
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Harry Cooper
When tendering to a vacation port, the captain avoids bumps and bruises to
passengers that a tender ride might cause. That's not much of a concern
when leaving a sinking ship. Clearly there are different rules for tenders
as for life boats, even if the device is the same.
Just my opinion,
Harry Cooper
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Joseph Coulter
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> In an evacuation scenario the boats are loaded at the boat deck
> hanging (nearly) motionless from the davits. When tendering they are
> lowered into the water with only a couple of crew onboard then loaded
> alongside a ship in possibly rough seas.
>
Just to add on. When evacuating the lifeboats are moving with the ship.
when used as tenders they tend to react more quickly to the swells. If you
have ever watched a ship taking on passengers after the waves have come up
you know just how dangerous it can be and why tender ports get cancelled.
One can only take one passenger at a time on or off and that has to be
timed to the swell, slow and tricky.
>
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