Of course the resident pile of dog feces on RTC is that Nazi piece of
trash who goes by various names that many of you have repeatedly entered
into your killfiles. Almost as repulsive as the feces itself, is
her/his buddy, who is so desperate to connect with a half sentient
being, that she lols following some of the most virulent rhetoric of
hate and intolerance that I have witnessed in my entire life.
When I first started reading rtc on a regular basis not that long ago, I
found that some of the posts were informative, some were amusing, and
many were boring. At the present point in time, however, I feel that I
need a preventative dose of bonine before I even look at the group, and
a very hot shower when I am finished reading.
ITT's obsession with anal sex is not amusing. ITT's statements about
Catholics are revolting. And ITT's vile anti-Semitism is the kind of
thing that resulted in the extermination of millions of men, women, and
children in Europe.
While I am, obviously, not a Catholic, I think it's time for a very
serious, and seldom used, Catholic ritual here on rtc - exorcism.
So now I plead with my fellow cruiseaholics. If you don't give this
useless piece of garbage a piece of yourself, it will disappear.
Howie
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some snipped for brevity
> When I first started reading rtc on a regular basis not that long ago, I
> found that some of the posts were informative, some were amusing, and
> many were boring. At the present point in time, however, I feel that I
> need a preventative dose of bonine before I even look at the group, and
> a very hot shower when I am finished reading.
Howard, I agree. I first started reading rtc a few years ago. Then I stopped
beacuse it was getting somewhat ugly, and it was the same old messages. I am
back reading because we are considering a cruise next summer. I have already
killfiled several people. It amazes me how truly sick some people are.
Personally I subscribe to Karen's philosophy of nontheism, but I have no
problem with people of faith, no matter what it is. I wish every a wonderful
holiday no matter what their particular religion/culture. I also wish every
one calm winds and fair seas.
Paul
Paul Hoffman
Burlington ON
phof...@cogeco.ca hoff...@mcmaster.ca
" The only thing more expensive than hiring a professional, is hiring an
amateur." Red Adair
>Unfortunately, walking through rtc has recently come to resemble the
>only thing I dislike about walking through Paris. No matter where I
>step, I seem to wind up with dog feces on my shoes.
Must be a lack of coordination on your part. I would think you could
at least see and hop around Eileen's shit.
>Of course the resident pile of dog feces on RTC is that Nazi piece of
>trash who goes by various names that many of you have repeatedly entered
>into your killfiles. Almost as repulsive as the feces itself, is
>her/his buddy, who is so desperate to connect with a half sentient
>being, that she lols following some of the most virulent rhetoric of
>hate and intolerance that I have witnessed in my entire life.
Holy Pope Paul, Howie, I knew you academicians live in a world
separated from reality by your tenured jobs, your quest for knowledge
without ever practically applying it and your inability to take an
entrepreneurial risk, but I never knew that cloistering was part of
the experience.
>When I first started reading rtc on a regular basis not that long ago, I
>found that some of the posts were informative, some were amusing, and
>many were boring. At the present point in time, however, I feel that I
>need a preventative dose of bonine before I even look at the group, and
>a very hot shower when I am finished reading.
Then why do you stay? You're a professor of some intelligence aren't
you? Why would you stick around in an environment that makes you
physically ill, makes your wife by her own idiocy look like a fool and
requires frequent sanitization?
Why? Why do you stay?
>ITT's obsession with anal sex is not amusing.
You chasing Erma around for sex and drugs is? You're virtual sex
dances with Eileen are?
Only to you and a few.
> ITT's statements about
>Catholics are revolting.
Catholicism revolts me. We're even on this one.
>And ITT's vile anti-Semitism is the kind of
>thing that resulted in the extermination of millions of men, women, and
>children in Europe.
LOL
Yeah, right, Howie. When did you switch over to the drama department?
>While I am, obviously, not a Catholic, I think it's time for a very
>serious, and seldom used, Catholic ritual here on rtc - exorcism.
Interesting. Jew to advocate Catholic practices. You guys always have
had a inherent "flexibility" in your theology.
Ask Christ. When He was crucified, at the hands of the Jews, it was
as much or more because He was taking away your Chosen People's status
and embracing Gentiles (the remainder of the world) in the salvation
that the Jewish people mocked, spat at and ignored.
>So now I plead with my fellow cruiseaholics. If you don't give this
>useless piece of garbage a piece of yourself, it will disappear.
When I first came to RTC years ago, I heard this mantra from Charles
The Bore and God knows how many more I cannot count.
For a professor, you learn very slowly but let me make sure you
understand one thing.
I couldn't care two head beanies about whether you killfile me, ignore
me, hate me or, in your case, want to screw me. If I did, I would
have been gone long ago.
Did you get your degrees over the Internet? How in the world can you
be so stupid?
Do you enjoy getting your ass handed to you by someone who never
finished college? What does that say about you and your academic
credentials?
One piece of advice. You have your hands full with your wife. She
goes on and on, day by day, making a huge fool of herself, lying,
being caught the hypocrite, backstabbing.
If I were you, and thank God I am not, I would spend my time reeling
my wife back into reality and less time posting worthless bullshit
like this which, by your design, will create a great amount of OT
controversy.
Tell me now how much you love RTC. Tell me now how you hate OT
threads that divide the group. Tell me when people will stop
remembering what a hypocrite you and you and your wife are.
Me, I'm going out with Hubby, have the kind of sex you that you and
Eileen only dream of, call my Catholic and Jewish friends to make sure
they read this crap of yours, and have several dozen laughs over it
and at your expense.
Enjoy your evening; tell Eileen I said Hi! as she falls asleep next to
you but without you.
MM
>Paul
>
>Paul Hoffman
I have heard from friends who have stopped reading this newsgroup altogether
because of this ongoing tirade.
On October 14, 1998, a lady by the name of Kate, posted a
great message, pledging NOT to respond to trolls and other
trouble maker and rabble rousers. She ended the post by
stating:
"MY PLEDGE If you are familiar with the Amish custom of 'shunning' - that is
what I pledge to do. Hope many of you will join me."
Five years ago I took that pledge as did several on this
newsgroup. I still keep that pledge, even when under
attack.
Ermalee <--doesn't need killfiles to ignore trolls and others
who haven't got a clue, or maybe even a life
Thank you, Howie,
I couldn't have said it better!
--Jean
I guess what I am trying to say after to many brewskies... and trying
to get ready to sail with the Pride tomorrow... who care who posts
what. Especially on an open forum such as this...
We get the good... bad... and ugly... but nobody is putting a gun
to our head to read that which we may be offended by. Just a click of
the "mouse" takes care of everything. I wish I could have dealt with
my past life that easily... (smile)
And yeh... I am a devout believer in free speech... but I can turn
it off (the source) if I feel like it.
Bill
Have a great time on the Pride, Bill.
Jim
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:52:07 -0500, Howard Garland
<garl...@comcast.netremove> wrote:
Then, Paul Hoffman said...
I have already
killfiled several people. It amazes me how truly sick some people are.
Personally I subscribe to Karen's philosophy of nontheism, but I have no
problem with people of faith, no matter what it is. <<
Totally missing THE point, not just Howards point, and an obvious point, at
that! (although, depending on your/THE view, he ( Howard) NOW professes to
see some sort of sordid light that was, apparently, not decectable,
previously)..and/or, depending on the whims (which change faster than a
sudden gale force wind, btw ) of the obvious hierarchy at RTC (I'll get to
that, believe me, there IS a point..), some of whom are fair minded,
(regardless of the subject or topic) seem to be inclinced to be at the
ready to pounce on anyone who dares chance , just for the hell of it, to
hope for the best. I stand, squarely, in the solid middle, on this one. I'm
with Howard, not because he's Howard, and not because I'm taking any kind of
sides, here. And, not even that I happen to *like* Howard and Eileen, as far
as I can see, Usenet, or otherwise.
If you had truly read the post you would have seen that Howard was
DEFINATELY talking and criticizing Karen, AKA, cupcaked..etc. (which is not
to be read as an agreement with the ridiculous accusation/theory that Karen
is anyone other than herself....posting under bogus name/names)
Karen has a right to agree, LOL anyone she wants.. what Karen doesn't have a
right to do is protest, and often times, loudly, protest, to any OTHERS
right to do the the same! I, often find that Karen's posts and so-called oft
stated philosophy, morals/way of life are very much up for grabs and subject
to ridiculous, self important, twisted justifications, depending on WHO is
doing the spewing! Friend? A-OK! Foe! Watch out! You're in for one of K'S
infamous, self-rightous, lectures on the ways of the world, according to
Karen..and how YOU are, not only, simply clueless to these *correct* ways,
but, obviously beneath her and any *accepted* social status.
"Course, YMMV <VBG> Really, Karen, cut the shit, you can't have it both
ways, honey! There is no such thing as "mostly honest", nor, "just a little
dishonest". You either are or you're not! It's kinda like being
pregnant....no such thing as a "little bit pregnant"
Eileen
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> I first started reading rtc a few years ago. Then I stopped
>beacuse it was getting somewhat ugly, and it was the same old messages. I am
>back reading because we are considering a cruise next summer.
Yes, for "free" anything people will put up with damn near anything,
won't you Paul?
> I have already
>killfiled several people.
Same killfiles work all the time. you are getting what you want, free
advice, and you get it at no cost of participation, of advising those
who come here to RTC.
You are what we call a "Usenet freeloader"; it is your Usenet, use it
as selfishly as you want.
> It amazes me how truly sick some people are.
I thought they were killfiled? How would you know?
>I have heard from friends who have stopped reading this newsgroup altogether
>because of this ongoing tirade.
I get emails from folks who have specifically said they have started
to (again) read RTC because of the discussions that are not only about
what nite is Lobster Nite or "advanced tipping concepts."
>On October 14, 1998, a lady by the name of Kate, posted a
>great message, pledging NOT to respond to trolls and other
>trouble maker and rabble rousers. She ended the post by
>stating:
>"MY PLEDGE If you are familiar with the Amish custom of 'shunning' - that is
>what I pledge to do. Hope many of you will join me."
Shun away.
>Five years ago I took that pledge as did several on this
>newsgroup. I still keep that pledge, even when under
>attack.
I love this word "attack" like you are in some battle for your life or
decency or some other bullshit.
>Ermalee <--doesn't need killfiles to ignore trolls and others
> who haven't got a clue, or maybe even a life
You might accidentally killfile Howie making pillow talk with you.
Excellent choice.
>Off subject, and worse, BORING!
RTCers define OT discussion as anything they don't care to read about.
When they are OT, as Howie is so obviously here, it is a "public
service" or some such crappy excuse.
What, in their ends, we have here is nothing more than a group of
regulars who, in vain attempt in face of absolute failure, wish to
control RTC for their personal agendas and benefit.
Some, like the Girl's Club, use it as an internal discussion board
among friends. Is that OT? Oh, Nooooooooooooo, b/c that suits THEIR
needs.
So when discussions move away from fruitcakes to homosexuality or
religion or something of substance other than endlessly worn out,
easily Googled, subjects like "Hotel In Miami", then, yes that is
certainly OT. What a crock. Hypocrites to the max.
Howie's exasperation is twofold. Ever since Eileen finally developed
her own handle (we do remember Howard and Eileen Garland as one, do we
not?), she has gone about RTC eventually sticking her feet in her
mouth. Now Howie, is off on his own, acting like something he is not
(Word!), some age he never will be again. When he isn't trying to play
cuddle bugs with the other females on RTC.
It hasn't worked out this split and now, Lo and Behold, he is forced
to ride a shining horse to defend his fair Eileen who has been caught
both lying and backstabbing and trying desperately to backpedal and do
damage control. Too late. The true Eileen showed up. Hypocrites
always get caught in hypocrisy.
But more than that it is about "turf". this is "their turf"; they
want it, they want to control it, they want to decide who does and
says what and who should or should not be engaged in discussion and
what subjects can or should be discussed. it is useless and inane form
of censorship, it will not work and they are finally getting the
message.
RTC is an international, uncensored, public forum and if you want to
control Usenet, you can.
Get a moderated forum, leave or shut up.
Michelle McDonald
=====================================================
>Here, Here.
SUNNY, that's "Hear, Hear" not "Here, Here" as in "Look At You, You".
LOL
>Imagine hating and flaming someone because of their hair I am older than
>you, Howard, and I thought I had seen and heard it all.
Somewhere in there there I believe you missed your punctuation.
>I have been called a whore,
From your words, out of your WEB TV.
>a drunk a pill popper,
You admit to drinking heavily and some of your posts, especially at
nite, are completely unreadable and unintelligible. As to pills, never
took a Valium?
> idiot,
Google proven, I might add.
>hypocrite
In spades.
>all
>from someone who has never met me.
Here goes the hypocrisy you just mentioned. When you take your shots
at me, you have never met me either, have you?
But Oh, your SUNNY and SUNNY is an RTC regular and SUNNY gets to make
up the rules as she sees them.
Pffft.
Btw, you forgot "voyeur" and, again, that comes from your own
admission to stalking folks in their cabins with binoculars. I'll
spare you the Google evidence.
>Cannot remember the exact words but remember the gist. Have a metal ring
>tied around my neck and thrown overboard.
We were taking about "fruitcakes" being anchors. See how easy it is to
remember?
>What goes around comes around.
>I know.
>SUNNY
I imagine, in your life, you have been "gotten back to" quite
frequently, SUNNY
>
>Thank you, Howie,
>I couldn't have said it better!
Yes, you could have!!! You could use many more exclamation points,
Jean !!!!!!!!!!!!
>Howie... For God's sake chill out.
WORD! You be jammin', man!!!
>I guess what I am trying to say after to many brewskies... and trying
>to get ready to sail with the Pride tomorrow... who care who posts
>what. Especially on an open forum such as this...
Only those that want to control free and open terrains.
>We get the good... bad... and ugly... but nobody is putting a gun
>to our head to read that which we may be offended by. Just a click of
>the "mouse" takes care of everything. I wish I could have dealt with
>my past life that easily... (smile)
Yep, exercise the single finger editor.
>And yeh... I am a devout believer in free speech... but I can turn
>it off (the source) if I feel like it.
Sure can and it is your right to do so.
>I am chill, man.
I think not, dude.
Word!
> Ignore the flames and trolls and press on. The only
>other recourse is to find a moderated, closed group somewhere, but
>that would be no fun would it?
I see. Trolls, flames etc are "fun" but in a surreal sense. Only peek
at them like some people do with pron TV. But don't get rid of them,
no, then you couldn't peek and have "fun".
This is weird.
Take it to rec.travel.aryan.nations
SUNNY<.......has better things to do, i.e. enjoying friends and family,
than mailing e-mails to po faces
Riddle me this: what goes clip clop, clip clop, clip clop, hard stare, clip
clop, clip clop, clip clop?
Answer; an Amish drive-by shunning.
LOL!
__ /7__/7__/7__
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http://www.cupcaked.com/reviews
(...and leave off the "potatoes" to e-mail)
"EileenMcDonald" <eileenm...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MsednUv5oZO...@comcast.com...
> Howard Garland said....>> Almost as repulsive as the feces itself, is
> her/his buddy, who is so desperate to connect with a half sentient
> being, that she lols following some of the most virulent rhetoric of
> hate and intolerance that I have witnessed in my entire life <<
>
> Then, Paul Hoffman said...
>
> I have already
> killfiled several people. It amazes me how truly sick some people are.
> Personally I subscribe to Karen's philosophy of nontheism, but I have no
> problem with people of faith, no matter what it is. <<
>
> Totally missing THE point, not just Howards point, and an obvious point,
at
> that! (although, depending on your/THE view, he ( Howard) NOW professes
to
> see some sort of sordid light that was, apparently, not decectable,
> previously)..and/or, depending on the whims (which change faster than a
> sudden gale force wind, btw ) of the obvious hierarchy at RTC (I'll get to
> that, believe me, there IS a point..), some of whom are fair minded,
> (regardless of the subject or topic) seem to be inclinced to be at the
> ready to pounce on anyone who dares chance , just for the hell of it, to
> hope for the best. I stand, squarely, in the solid middle, on this one.
Eileen, I don't always agree with what you post, as I am sure you don't with
what I post~ BUT~ I don't berate, ridicule, taunt use vulgarity, hate, and
act condescending because your views are different than mine. This time
however; I heartily agree with you because I did not miss Howard's point at
all.
> If you had truly read the post you would have seen that Howard was
> DEFINATELY talking and criticizing Karen, AKA, cupcaked..etc. (which is
not
> to be read as an agreement with the ridiculous accusation/theory that
Karen
> is anyone other than herself....posting under bogus name/names)
> Karen has a right to agree, LOL anyone she wants.. what Karen doesn't have
a
> right to do is protest, and often times, loudly, protest, to any OTHERS
> right to do the the same! I, often find that Karen's posts and so-called
oft
> stated philosophy, morals/way of life are very much up for grabs and
subject
> to ridiculous, self important, twisted justifications, depending on WHO is
> doing the spewing! Friend? A-OK! Foe! Watch out! You're in for one of K'S
> infamous, self-rightous, lectures on the ways of the world, according to
> Karen..and how YOU are, not only, simply clueless to these *correct*
ways,
> but, obviously beneath her and any *accepted* social status.
> "Course, YMMV <VBG> Really, Karen, cut the shit, you can't have it both
> ways, honey! There is no such thing as "mostly honest", nor, "just a
little
> dishonest". You either are or you're not! It's kinda like being
> pregnant....no such thing as a "little bit pregnant"
I congratulate you for having the courage to post the above and name the
person concerned. This as been a long time coming.
If everyone had the courage (guts) to speak out when they saw deliberately
hateful behavior, it would not continue. As for those who think it is so
amusing, I wonder how they would react if THEY were on the receiving end of
being called vulgar, cruel and hateful words or names~or have lies told
about either them, their religion, lifestyle, age or appearance... It might
be you, next time~so don't be so quick to think it is so funny~ hate spreads
quickly unless people have the courage to say, enough is enough. Comedy is
fine, if it does not hurt or humiliate someone. When one *LOLs* a cruel
remark, it means that they agree. I think there are ways to disagree without
promoting animosity and division. We may have different opinions, but they
don't have to be demeaning in expression and really have more value when
expressed in a more sensitive manner.
I agree with your assessment of Karen's posts. It depends strictly on who is
doing the spewing ~she has never had the guts to disagree with CC, lets her
fight her battles for her, permits her to respond to posts on her behalf
and then pretends she is so innocent and pure because she did not respond to
the posts herself. Watch out if you disagree with her views~that is when the
all knowing and condescending attitude kicks in, unless of course, it is
someone whose feathers she dare not ruffle, that's when the nauseating fake
*sweetness* kicks in.
Off my soapbox~thanks for your time!
--Jean
>I congratulate you for having the courage to post the above and name the
>person concerned. This as been a long time coming.
Yes, and you never once showed the courage to do it yourself, did you?
>If everyone had the courage (guts) to speak out when they saw deliberately
>hateful behavior, it would not continue.
Bullshit.
> As for those who think it is so
>amusing, I wonder how they would react if THEY were on the receiving end of
>being called vulgar, cruel and hateful words or names~or have lies told
>about either them, their religion, lifestyle, age or appearance...
Name the lies, name just one. Or shut up.
>As for those who think it is so
>amusing, I wonder how they would react if THEY were on the receiving end of
>being called vulgar, cruel and hateful words or names~..We may have different opinions, but they
>don't have to be demeaning in expression and really have more value when
>expressed in a more sensitive manner.
Watch next as the hypocrite cuts in:
>Karen is so innocent and pure because she did not respond to
>the posts herself. Watch out if you disagree with her views~that is when the
>all knowing and condescending attitude kicks in, unless of course, it is
>someone whose feathers she dare not ruffle, that's when the nauseating fake
>*sweetness* kicks in.
I guess Jeanie O'Boil is being sensitive and non divisional and
calling no names.
LOL
Unbelievable. Idiot never looks in a mirror.
>I'm glad there are posters on this news group that have the courage to
>speak up against the bad-mannered, like this Sunny. I have gotten almost
>unreadable e-mails from her several times, some containing violent
>messages. I've read over the past few months since I've been here that
>others have had the same experience. One man even challenged her to stop e-
>mailing him or he would post her vile messages sent to him.
SUNNY is either drunk or drugged or both. I have gotten emails from
her that were unreadable by anyone. She does it here from time to
time; it's funny since she is and acts the moron she is.
>I'm just glad there are people who are brave enough not to be run off by
>people like Sunny, Howard and his wife (who I think is mentally ill),
>Eileen Mc Donald, Paul, and some of the others.
It has nothing to do about bravery. these are immense hypocrites, not
very bright, and lots of fun to kick around. They supply the fodder;
we supply the fodder flipper.
>Take it to rec.travel.aryan.nations
Bigot. Typical Jew bullshit Aryan crap. Bigot.
>Some contribute and some detract.
Some post bullshit meaningless crap like this.
>On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:13:57 GMT, "Jean O'Boyle"
><j.ob...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>Karen is so innocent and pure because she did not respond to
>>the posts herself. Watch out if you disagree with her views~that is when the
>>all knowing and condescending attitude kicks in, unless of course, it is
>>someone whose feathers she dare not ruffle, that's when the nauseating fake
>>*sweetness* kicks in.
"Feathers she dare not ruffle"??
Name names of the people you think I'm so afraid of. And don't give
me that "I didn't see your post because I have you killfiled"
nonsense. You're a liar. I happen to know you read each and every
post you say you didn't.
Ask me how I know.
Karen
>
>"Feathers she dare not ruffle"??
>
>Jean, name the names of the people you think I'm so afraid of. And don't give
>me that "I didn't see your post because I have you killfiled"
>nonsense. You're a liar. I happen to know you read each and every
>post you say you didn't.
>
>Ask me how I know.
>
>Karens
This is not good news for Jean at all. Not good news, nope.
Me, I am going to sit back and watch this unfold.
SUNNY<..........just knows its glue sniffing time for you
Take it to rec.reminiscing.about.apartied
>Take it to rec.reminiscing.about.apartied
Apartied? Is this when you, Eileen and SUNNY take over a bar?
>I want you to print past and present e mails you say I sent you.or shut
>your codswallop.
OK, got 'em printed right here. Can I open my "codswallop" now?
LOL
>SUNNY<..........just knows its glue sniffing time for you
Never sniffed glue. Sorry.
> I don't believe your a college professor for one little minute. I
> think you clean out the boys locker room and thats as far into academia
> as you get.
a tu aussi un MENSA?
> I'm just glad there are people who are brave enough not to be run off by
> people like Sunny, Howard and his wife (who I think is mentally ill),
> Eileen Mc Donald, Paul, and some of the others.
>
> Martie
A tu un MENSA?
As your best buddy and other half Crusing Chrissy, would say, YOU do a
google search ~~there are certainly enough posts there about you and what
predicaments you have gotten yourself into even before I came to rtc. And
PLEASE stop with the million dollars that you mention everytime someone
confronts you! I know you think throwing out names of people that you deem
important makes you feel important too, but you don't have a million dollars
nor the prestige you so badly want.
>And don't give me that "I didn't see your post because I have you
killfiled"
> nonsense. You're a liar. I happen to know you read each and every
> post you say you didn't.
No, Karen, I will be truthful ~not like you were, when I questioned you as
to why you saw my posts when you claimed to have me killfiled. You *claimed*
you cleaned out your killfile list . Well, I will be truthful~~I had the you
and Queen of Cruising both in my kill file. On Dec.15th, five messages
appeared under Cruising Chrissy (her new name du jour). They included
ridiculing me as usual, so I was curious and let you out on *parole* and
deleted Qof C because she now had renamed herself. So I have seen your
messages since Dec.15th. Seen the hate spewing and ridicule continuing and
when Howard posted, I was glad that SOMEONE was finally seeing you as you
really are. Then Eileen McDonald posted and I decided it was time to end the
silence. Everytime CC posts you follow with ridicule-everytime you post, CC
follows with ridicule. You are joined at the hip physically and mentally.
Also, I believe every post that is posted about what you did to the QM2
group. You would be spiteful enough to destroy all the files on that group
if someone did not think as you or you could not have your way~that's your
MO. Also another lie~you mentioned you canceled the QM2 in January because
Hans just got a new job and you would not be able to go. Yet, you have
posted several times that you booked another cruise in its place in
January. Explain that one~as there is the proof below:
>>Booked for the Seven Seas Navigator (January) and the QM2 (April). As
>>for the "looking" part, we're ALWAYS doing that :-)
>>Karen
Never mind, forget the explanation, I would not believe it anyway. You would
give it a different spin, as you do when someone calls you on one of your
posts and come back with " I'll reword that" or "I should have said". Never
are wrong, are you, Karen. Got news for you, I'm not the only one who sees
through you. Before you make fun of my hair or my hairstyle take a good
look at yours in the photo you attach to your posts.
> Ask me how I know.
>
> Karen
I know how you know~you see a person whom I thought was trustworthy and *did
not want to take sides*, received a e-mail from me after your best buddy,
body guard, and vulgar defending secretary started posting again as Cruising
Chrissy. She had stated in a post previously that she sort of missed CQ. So
I forwarded the vulgar and untrue posts to her and asked if she still missed
her. She is the only one I e-mailed it to.
Before I end this post, I want you to know that not only are you
condescending, untruthful and filled with bitterness, but you will not allow
anyone to differ with your opinion without ridiculing what they feel or
believe. Well, I am not perfect, but you sure as heck aren't as perfect as
you think you are~nor are you above ANYONE else in this group.
Tell your best bud, CC, that it is evident that she has not been in a
Catholic Church in a LONG time. She claims there are no Bible teachings~~for
her information, Mass starts with scripture, first reading is from the Old
Testament of the Bible, the Psalm that follows is from one of the Psalms in
the Bible, followed by a reading from the New Testament of the Bible. Then
follows the Gospel, which is from the Bible, followed by a sermon pertaining
to the Gospel. Shows you how well informed she is. Another thing, I know you
both love to stir up trouble between people with your views on religion, but
to go so far as to tell lies as above and also say that the Catholic Church
believes that only Catholics will go to heaven is a horrendous lie as well
as the statement that the Catholic Church blames the Jews for the
Crucifixion of Christ is another blatant lie. Your hate of everything that
is good, consumes you. Yes, presently there are some problems in the Church
and it makes all good Catholics sad. We can only pray that all will be
resolved satisfactorily for everyone and that the guilty are punished as
they justly should be. This happens to go on in other churches, but with
over 1 billion Catholics in the world, it makes the news big time~news is
not news anymore, but sensationalism to sell papers, air time, etc. Though
that is NOT an excuse for any abuse. Abuse is terribly wrong, no matter who
commits it.
Now, I think, for sake of having peace in my life, I'll put you and your
partner back into the slammer. All my family is gathered to celebrate
Christmas and there is much laughter and love around us. I intend to truly
experience Peace on Earth without reading your posts, as they drive me to
respond in a way that I don't like myself afterwards. Since I don't want to
feel that way, it is best that I stay away from you. The same goes for
Cruising Chrissy.
I apologize to anyone reading, for submitting such a long post, but I wanted
to say how I feel and correct any misconceptions involving the untruths
posted .Religion and politics are best left out of public discussion, but
the above was all posted previously by the above posters and I could not let
it go without correction.
Jean<~~~feels better now
Eileen
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I have also been watching for about a year, and trying to decide just who Crissy Cruiser or whatever she calls herself this week is. I've pretty much become convinced that it is Chuck Kohlenberg (I think that's his last name). He used to post as ChuckK and was a very snotty, nasty man. Then he disappeared, and soon thereafter he reappeared as Chrissy Cruiser and the several incarnations thereafter. I also noticed that ChuckK posted from a cruise ship about 2 weeks ago, and during the time he was supposedly on that cruise ship, there were no troll posts at all -- not even one. As soon as that cruise was over, the new posting name appeared for the troll.
Just my own thoughts. I'm not a very active poster to rtc, but I read a lot there. I have never been inclined to get really involved on that newsgroup as there is so much contention there that I just can't deal with it. I have met people on cruises though whom I have met on the group, and I have learned a great deal about cruising and cruiseships from reading there. I think it is a valuable resource, but I just don't have the fortitude to put up with the abuse that has been spewed on that group in the past year or so. I did attempt to back Ray Goldenberg when someone really slandered him and took all sorts of crap for that. At this point in my life, taking care of my 86 year old mom and recuperating myself from my sister's suicide 2 years ago, I just don't need anymore stress in my life.
I do want to say though that I think you have really dealt with all of this like a person of very high moral character. I truly admire how you have handled it, and I think you would be a nice person to know.
June
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> Well I posted it here after all. Oh well....now you all know. Who cares.
What the heck, June; live dangerously.
Howie
>Before I end this post,
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>I want you to know that not only are you
>condescending, untruthful and filled with bitterness, but you will not allow
>anyone to differ with your opinion without ridiculing what they feel or
>believe. Well, I am not perfect, but you sure as heck aren't as perfect as
>you think you are~nor are you above ANYONE else in this group.
>
>Tell your best bud, CC, that it is evident that she has not been in a
>Catholic Church in a LONG time.
12 years was long enough.
> She claims there are no Bible teachings~~for
>her information, Mass starts with scripture, first reading is from the Old
>Testament of the Bible, the Psalm that follows is from one of the Psalms in
>the Bible, followed by a reading from the New Testament of the Bible. Then
>follows the Gospel, which is from the Bible, followed by a sermon pertaining
>to the Gospel.
And that is the sum off it. A few, unlinked passages, no formal Bible
study, none in the schools, zero.
>Shows you how well informed she is. Another thing, I know you
>both love to stir up trouble between people with your views on religion, but
>to go so far as to tell lies as above and also say that the Catholic Church
>believes that only Catholics will go to heaven is a horrendous lie as well
It's Church Law, Jeanie. If you want to get to heaven, you have to
accept Church Law and I quote from the Catechism
"Heaven is the place for those free from original sin and personal
sin. One who has venial sin, that is, those sins that can be
overlooked, must be cleansed first in Purgatory. Those free from
personal sin but infected with original sin – which only Christ can
cleanse – are destined for Limbo. That’s where you will find Adam and
Noah and Moses - and infants who died before baptism."
Note "original sin" an entirely Catholic based theology.
Like most Catholics, you show up at Church, get told what to think and
what to do, and have little clue about the basis of the theology that
locks your God in a box.
>as the statement that the Catholic Church blames the Jews for the
>Crucifixion of Christ is another blatant lie.
Who the hell else are you going to blame? The Egyptians?
The Jews via the Sanhendrin found Christ guilty of claiming to be the
Messiah. They shuttled Him off to Pilate who was cornered
politically, cornered into assisting the Jews in the arrest and
crucifixion.
Typically, as a Catholic, without any real Scriptural knowledge, all
these "details" blew right by you.
> Yes, presently there are some problems in the Church
>and it makes all good Catholics sad.
Some problems? Sad? your priests suck little boys dicks, then the
Church buys off their convictions. Sad? It's the single most repulsive
abuse of power in religious affairs in the history of the Catholic
church.
> This happens to go on in other churches, but with
>over 1 billion Catholics in the world,
...who. like you, multiply like rabbits due to your utterly ridiculous
stances on birth control....
>it makes the news big time~news is
>not news anymore, but sensationalism to sell papers, air time, etc.
Right. It's the papers fault for reporting the widespread abuse of
pedophilia rampant among Catholic Church priests. I have heard the
lameness of this argument for a decade now.
>Jean, I don't know you, I don't like you, I don't like the kind of person
>you are and I don't want anything to do with you. Don't bother me,
>and I assure you I will not bother you.
I agee with all except the bother part.
I love to bother Jean.
>Not only does Jean think she is perfect because of her convictions,
>religious or otherwise, she is self-righteous, preachy, rigid and
>sanctimonious. Nobody likes people like she is.
Certainly the Girl's Club spy doesn't.
LOL
The Not So Fine Art Of Google
http://tinyurl.com/3bw2g
>Jean O'Boyle You had better be very careful what you say while posting with
>your real name and with your picture all over the net. There just may
>be some man lurking here who knows the truth about why you are so
>devout now. It's to make up for your transgressions of your youth.
>Don't throw rocks at anyone else until you want to be honest about the
>abortion or the affair with the priest.
Damn, our Girl's Club spy hadn't come up with that info yet.
The Not So Fine Art Of Google
Sorry to disappoint you on both counts, been married and faithful to the
same wonderful man for 52 years.
Have five healthy and happy children and would have been pleased if I had
been blessed with more.
Yes, I know who you are~ a snake under a rock, coming out to post under
anonymous, because you are too cowardly to post such lies under your real
name.
Slither back under that rock, now.
--Jean
SUNNY<........wonders if GM is up to his old tricks
S'nd I
>You are condemned to live in hell on earth.
You're a Jew, SUNNY, not Yahweh.
duh
Gay Mormon! (I used to be one of those lol)
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lol *used* to be a mormon. I don't think there's any going back for the
other part ;-)
worse. I lived in East Texas! Now that I look back on it, I probably just
hadda crush on the missionary or something lol. But it was very interesting
learning about the religion!