Anyone buy a Rolex in St. Thomas??
Michael Bean
I am wondering if any out there has purchased a Rolex from A.H. Riise in St.
Thomas lately?
I was going to buy one (Submariner) a couple of years ago and after shopping
around I found at that time I could have saved about $800 buying it there.
I decided against it then, but I am getting the urge to make the purchase
again. We will be making a stop there on the Radiance OTS in a few months
and I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on how much they saved
recently.
Thanks in advance.
Mike
Tim Rubacky
--Tim
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Constance A. Lowe
I know this is going to sound petty, but I would think twice about
purchasing a Rolex at all. My father purchased one of the first
Presidential models in 1963 or 1964, I believe, and I have worn it ever
since his death in 1972. It has been serviced every year or two during
that time either by Rolex or by a Rolex-trained and authorized technician.
It has not been abused. A couple of years ago it became unreliable and
had to go to Rolex watch summer camp -- $600. A year later it had to go
to Rolex again. It came back with a note that they would no longer
warranty repairs on it. It is now losing time again. Bear in mind that
this is supposed to be the quality of timepiece you can hand down for at
least a couple of generations. This one is only about 40 years old.
My 1964 Leica camera works perfectly and has only been cleaned once in 38
years. My 1972 Swiss Elna sewing machine still works fine with only a few
cleanings. I just don't think Rolex is living up to the kind of quality
one expects for the price.
Just my opinion.
Connie
Michael Bean (mmb...@prodigy.net) wrote:
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: Thanks in advance.
: Mike
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state of mechanical watch design and construction, but the best escapement
mechanism available is not as accurate as a $3 plastic watch from Kmart.
There is no excuse for buying or wearing a Rolex other than for its looks.
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CarolynO
> There is no excuse for buying or wearing a Rolex other than for its looks.
IMHO The look has been duplicated by many. The only reason to buy a Rolex
is to say "I have a Rolex"... Or for others to say "Is that a Rolex?"..
Tom & Linda
The exclusive jeweler in Switzerland that sells Rolex is called
Bucherer.
Why not try calling them and see what price they give you. Granted you
will have to pay customs duty... but the price might still be lower than
from either the US or St. Thomas. Geneva prices are much lower than US
prices.
This URL shows one of their stores in Geneva.
http://www.geneva-guide.ch/shopping/content.asp?category_id=3&recno=24&name=Bucherer
Then if you find a better price in St. Thomas... you've done all your
homework.
If you want a submariner... a jeweler once told me that since gold is a
softer metal than stainless steel... the gold ones aren't as waterproof
as the steel ones. So if you plan on going into the water with it, get
the stainless one. It actually has a rubber O-ring that the winding
crown seals down on to keep water out. I have the submariner - Linda
works for a Swiss company and got it in Zurich right after we got
married - and it's never had to be serviced - and loses about 1 minute
in 3 months. If it's an option, get the sapphire crystal - it never
scratches.
--Tom
Rick Jacobs
1978 and I bought it used. Nothing can kill it. I'm tough on watches and
this one purchase stopped me from wasting money on a new cheapy watch every
year (or more sometimes). The person with the problematic one is probably
the exception to the rule.
:: Nowadays, a Rolex should be considered jewelry. Sure, it represents
Diane
>
>Not in every case. I have a simple stainless steel that I have beat up since
>1978 and I bought it used. Nothing can kill it. I'm tough on watches and
>this one purchase stopped me from wasting money on a new cheapy watch every
>year (or more sometimes). The person with the problematic one is probably
>the exception to the rule.
>
Rick, you must be related to my husband. ;-)
He has managed to mangle most watches over the years, but for the past 12, he
hasn't been able to do anything significant to his simple stainless steel
Oyster.
It's been dropped more than once. He wears it even when planting trees and
shrubs, and doing "pond cleanup" on community day. He has worn it river
rafting, snorkeling, climbing, and hiking. It is indestructible.
I gave it to him on our 10th anniversary 12 years ago. It's probably the only
present that he has been given that is still around after 10 years. I expect it
to last as long as we are here on this earth. It's been cleaned once, and is
probably due again soon. The O-ring protecting the interior at the winding
mechanism is the reason we get it serviced, so that it stays waterproof.
I figured since he thought I was worth a diamond anniversary ring on our 10th,
that he deserved something better than a $12 Timex.
Yes, they are jewelry, and yes, they only keep good time if you wear them all
the time. His keeps almost perfect time, and only loses time if he forgets to
wear it for two days.
Diane
Sparky
considerable money and also he mailed the boxes to his himself and wore the
watch home, I assume to avoid the tax.
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SNUMBER6
>IMHO The look has been duplicated by many. The only reason to buy a Rolex
>is to say "I have a Rolex"... Or for others to say "Is that a Rolex?"..
As a yuppie opened up the door on his BMW in NYC, a car zoomed by and ripped
the door off ... "My Beemer, My Beemer", he exclaimed to the cop who saw it all
...
"That's what gets me about you Yuppies", said the cop ... "you are so worried
about your BMW you didn't notice he ripped your arm off too ..." to which the
Yuppie exclaimed ... "My Rolex, my Rolex ..."
In the Village ....
I am not a number ... I am a free man !!!!
Robert Bob Edwards
Seamaster that I bought in Hong Kong in 1951 for $55. I wore it for the
rest of my tour in Korea and my tour of duty in Viet Nam and have worn
it ever since. I've had it serviced once. Ironically the service cost
me more than the watch did.
Paul Tauger
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> >From: "CarolynO" cr...@sbcglobal.net
>
> >IMHO The look has been duplicated by many. The only reason to buy a
Rolex
> >is to say "I have a Rolex"... Or for others to say "Is that a Rolex?"..
>
> As a yuppie opened up the door on his BMW in NYC, a car zoomed by and
ripped
> the door off ... "My Beemer, My Beemer", he exclaimed to the cop who saw
it all
> ...
> "That's what gets me about you Yuppies", said the cop ... "you are so
worried
> about your BMW you didn't notice he ripped your arm off too ..." to which
the
> Yuppie exclaimed ... "My Rolex, my Rolex ..."
LOL!
True story: I was in Hong Kong with a business associate. We were walking
around Nathan Road after dinner, and a man came up to my associate and said,
"Want to buy a Rolex? Only $35." My associate said, "Is it a real Rolex?"
The man looked at him quizzically for a moment, and then said, "Why would
you want a real Rolex?"
I'm happy with my Longines Chronometer. Very accurate, and looks cool.
Paul Tauger
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> I didn't buy a Rolex but a friend of mine did last year. He said he saved
> considerable money and also he mailed the boxes to his himself and wore
the
> watch home, I assume to avoid the tax.
Not tax, but import duty which is a flat 10% on all purchases over $400
($800 per family). I seem to recall, though, reading in this ng that the
duty situation is different for the Caribbean.
Ermalee
for it and it has ALL the Rolex markings. Even the second hand goes
smoothly around and does not jump. We took it to a local jeweler who
was ready to wager that it is the real thing. You really have to
examine it minutely to see the slightest difference. It's self
winding and keeps perfect time.
Ermalee <---agrees with several others on the "why pay more" issue
Thumper
>I bought a Rolex in St. Thomas. At the flea market. Paid 75 bucks
>for it and it has ALL the Rolex markings. Even the second hand goes
>smoothly around and does not jump. We took it to a local jeweler who
>was ready to wager that it is the real thing. You really have to
>examine it minutely to see the slightest difference. It's self
>winding and keeps perfect time.
>
Don't buy anything from that jeweler.
Thumper
Paul Schilter
A real Rolex only looks like the second hand sweeps without jumping. It is
actually jumping five times per second so it looks like an electric watch that
sweeps. On cheap imitation watches the second jumps from second to second.
Paul
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John Mason
About 10 years ago when on a cruise to the Southern Caribbean, my wife
purchased a beautiful Rolex from Little Switzerland in St. Thomas.
Although she (we) paid a lot for it (around $12,500 to $13,000), it
was a Rolex with diamonds and gold. She took it to a major jeweler in
Birmingham that handled Rolex. The Jeweler confirmed it was genuine.
The jeweler also said that my wife would have paid about $8,000 more
to buy it from him.
Now for the flip side. Would I buy a Rolex. Hell no! I have a $50
Fossil on my arm and I like it a lot. My wife has to wind her Rolex
occasionally. Mine has never stopped. I can think of a lot of things I
can do with the difference between a Rolex and a Fossil. Take at least
4 more cruises, buy some more toys for my 26' sailboat, etc. Even if I
hit the Florida Lottery, I doubt that I would buy a Rolex.
John
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Tom & Linda
fake Rolex...
A couple of questions...
How many of you would ONLY buy gold plated necklaces, and not a real
gold necklace?
How many of you would only buy gold plated bracelets, and not a real
gold bracelet?
How many of you have gold plated wedding rings, instead of real gold
wedding rings? [Why do I think Tom G. will have a story for this
question??]
What if your fiancé gave you a fake diamond engagement ring?
Or...
What would your girlfriend do to you if you gave HER a fake diamond
engagement ring?
Is this any different?
Just something to think about. :)
--Tom
Ermalee
about 20 dollars.
Ermalee
Ermalee
Tom & Linda wrote:
>
> With everyone here who would NEVER EVER consider buying anything but a
> fake Rolex...
>
> A couple of questions...
>
> How many of you would ONLY buy gold plated necklaces, and not a real
> gold necklace?
>
> How many of you would only buy gold plated bracelets, and not a real
> gold bracelet?
>
> How many of you have gold plated wedding rings, instead of real gold
> wedding rings? [Why do I think Tom G. will have a story for this
> question??]
>
> What if your fiancé gave you a fake diamond engagement ring?
>
> Or...
>
> What would your girlfriend do to you if you gave HER a fake diamond
> engagement ring?
>
> Is this any different?
Absolutely! IMHO.
Ermalee
Tom & Linda
Why?
Why wouldn't you mind a fake Rolex, but would mind a fake necklace???
I guess I don't see the logic of being proud of one fake... but not want
another type of fake.
--Tom
Ermalee
Tom, in my opinion, watches are for keeping track of what time it is.
If a watch keeps accurate time, it is not a fake. You can buy a
pretty good watch that does the job and doesn't look ridiculous for
anywhere from 10 dollars on up. If you want it to do more than tell
time, i.e., dress you up a bit, then go for the precious ones.
I have a nice gold watch but it doesn't act as much as a timepiece
as it does a piece of jewelry.
OTOH, jewelry is a whole 'nother thing! We don't go for fake
gems or gold.
Ermalee <---thinking a girl could give up the Rolex for a diamond
or two :-)
Diane
Ermalee, why would it be OK for me to give my husband a $12 Timex for our
anniversary if it's not OK for him to give me cubic zirconia? Why aren't
watches jewelry for men? Do they all have to wear earrings, or gold chains? Is
that the only acceptable male jewelry?
My husband doesn't wear jewelry. But, he always wears his watch, everywhere.
It is indestructible jewelry. And, it's sentimental. It is no different to him
than my having a diamond anniversary band that he gave me. I wear my
anniversary present all the time, and never take it off.
He always has his watch with him. What's the difference?
Diane
George Leppla
"John Mason" <jom...@cba.ua.edu> wrote
> Now for the flip side. Would I buy a Rolex. Hell no! I have a $50
> Fossil on my arm and I like it a lot.
I have a Timex Expedition... big, easy to read dial and a small date
display, nothing digital on it. You can't tell the time in 4 time zones or
time laps underwater or find your way out of a jungle with it... but I can
look at it and instantly know what time it is! I can also set it without
looking at 8 pages of instructions in 4 languages, and it never embarrasses
me by beeping or playing the Battle Hymn of the Republic in church.
What a concept... a watch that pretty much just tells time! $29 at Walmart.
I guess I am one of those people who see a watch as a functional tool rather
than a piece of jewelry.
George in PA
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Paul Tauger
illustrates how trademarks work. At least in the US, the theory behind
trademark protection is that it is a benefit to the consumer -- we look for
specific trademarks when we shop because they are an assurance of quality
and consistency.
The problem with some trademarks, most notably those associated with famous
clothing designers, is that they _don't_ necessarily function to indicate
quality, but simply that the article in question comes from a specific
source. As many people in this thread have pointed out, their first
expectation for a watch is that it keep time well and, for at least one
poster, the "Rolex" mark is no guarantee of that. And, as others have
pointed out, there are many less expensive alternatives to a real Rolex that
work just as well. That makes the Rolex the equivalent of an expensive
piece of designer clothing, at least in the opinion of some people in this
thread. Since the specific feature that many are interested in is the label
"Rolex," rather than any specific aspiration to superior quality, for many
people, a knock-off is just as good.
Personally, I'd be afraid to wear a real Rolex -- I'm very rough on my
watches, and $10-15K is a lot of money for me. I used be quite happy with
$200-300 Seiko or even Citizen watches, which kept time just fine and looked
nice. We were recently in Zurich, however, and my wife thought I should get
a "nicer" watch. We decided on a Longines Automatic chronometer, a
stainless-steel, very accurate (though probably never as accurate as an
electric watch) self-winder that sold for about 1/10th the cost of a Rolex
(though the discounts in Zurich are pretty good -- we've priced this watch
in the U.S. for 50-75% more). Frankly, the reason I got it was because my
father used to wear a Longines (though a very 50s-looking one -- I'm told
it's actually fairly valuable at this point), so I thought I should have my
own Longines as well.
"ZombyWoof" <Zomb...@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 03:36:06 GMT, Ermalee <erm...@comcast.net> let us
> in on their opinion by saying:
>
> <snip>
> >
> >Tom, in my opinion, watches are for keeping track of what time it is.
> >If a watch keeps accurate time, it is not a fake. You can buy a
> >pretty good watch that does the job and doesn't look ridiculous for
> >anywhere from 10 dollars on up. If you want it to do more than tell
> >time, i.e., dress you up a bit, then go for the precious ones.
> >I have a nice gold watch but it doesn't act as much as a timepiece
> >as it does a piece of jewelry.
> >OTOH, jewelry is a whole 'nother thing! We don't go for fake
> >gems or gold.
> >
> >Ermalee <---thinking a girl could give up the Rolex for a diamond
> > or two :-)
> >
> I think you just hit on the crux of the matter. Is it a timepiece or
> is it jewelry? Is an excellent question. Another one is when does a
> timepiece become a piece of jewelry?
>
> Most of us have a need for a timepiece. We all have places to be at
> specific times. Very few of us can tell the time to minutes by the
> sun. I have two "Timepieces" they both tell time, they are both
> pretty accurate. However, one is $1500 dollars more then the other.
> It rarely gets worn. The other is worn 16 hours a day. Which one
> gave me the better ROI?
>
>
Ermalee
>
> Ermalee, why would it be OK for me to give my husband a $12 Timex for our
> anniversary if it's not OK for him to give me cubic zirconia? Why aren't
> watches jewelry for men? Do they all have to wear earrings, or gold chains? Is
> that the only acceptable male jewelry?
>
> My husband doesn't wear jewelry. But, he always wears his watch, everywhere.
> It is indestructible jewelry. And, it's sentimental. It is no different to him
> than my having a diamond anniversary band that he gave me. I wear my
> anniversary present all the time, and never take it off.
>
> He always has his watch with him. What's the difference?
>
> Diane
If one prefers an expensive piece of jewelry that also tells time,
that's ok, but the watch that I wear (not a fake watch; it's a REAL
watch) is as attractive as I want it to be. But the only statement
it makes is the time of day. Suits me just fine!
Ermalee <---thinks Dianes husband would look good in any watch! :-)
Ermalee
Ermalee <---wearing a few precious gems
Lee Lindquist wrote:
>
> On 31 Jul 2002 04:11:18 -0700, Diane <diane...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Ermalee, why would it be OK for me to give my husband a $12 Timex for our
> >anniversary if it's not OK for him to give me cubic zirconia? Why aren't
>
> cz == sleeping alone
>
> --
> - Lee
Diane
>
>
>If one prefers an expensive piece of jewelry that also tells time,
>that's ok, but the watch that I wear (not a fake watch; it's a REAL
>watch) is as attractive as I want it to be. But the only statement
>it makes is the time of day. Suits me just fine!
>
>Ermalee <---thinks Dianes husband would look good in any watch! :-)
Ermalee, do you know that almost no one knows that his watch is a Rolex? It's a
basic stainless steel non-embellished watch that is virtually indestructible.
It isn't flashy.
On our recent trip out to the Rockies, the guide said to him, "You need to take
off your watch to river raft. It may get broken." His response -- "No, it's
waterproof and shockproof". Not ---"No, this is a Rolex". So, no one notices
it. It was one of the few presents we have given each other over the years that
isn't broken, too large, too small, out of style, worn out, etc. etc.
And, it does keep time perfectly well, since he wears it every day, all day. If
someone doesn't wear their self-winding watch daily, it loses time and must be
set again. Simple science. Self winding watches need no batteries. They just
need the normal everyday motion of wearing them to keep running. And, they need
to be cleaned and serviced to keep them waterproof.
Anyway, hopefully, this watch will last our lifetimes. Just like my diamond
anniversary band that he bought me. The Seiko I bought him as a wedding present
bit the dust after 6 years.
Diane
Erm369
I have probably seen him wearing that Rolex. You're right, I didn't notice.
But I'll bet you didn't notice my birthstone ring either. <vbg>
Ermalee <--has half a dozen Seikos that may have become defunct
Albert Nurick
> Tom, in my opinion, watches are for keeping track of what time it is.
And jewels are for looking pretty.
> If a watch keeps accurate time, it is not a fake.
If a watch says "Rolex", and isn't made by them, it is most certainly
a fake Rolex.
> You can buy a
> pretty good watch that does the job and doesn't look ridiculous for
> anywhere from 10 dollars on up. If you want it to do more than tell
> time, i.e., dress you up a bit, then go for the precious ones.
Bingo. For many folks (especially men), a watch is the only piece of
jewelery we choose. Some guys like a fine watch, just as some women
choose precious jewelery instead of costume.
> I have a nice gold watch but it doesn't act as much as a timepiece
> as it does a piece of jewelry.
OK.
> OTOH, jewelry is a whole 'nother thing! We don't go for fake
> gems or gold.
Why? Many fakes sparkle just like the real thing. ;-)
--
Albert Nurick
alb...@nurick.com
www.nurick.com
Albert Nurick
> I think you just hit on the crux of the matter. Is it a timepiece or
> is it jewelry? Is an excellent question. Another one is when does a
> timepiece become a piece of jewelry?
>
> Most of us have a need for a timepiece. We all have places to be at
> specific times. Very few of us can tell the time to minutes by the
> sun. I have two "Timepieces" they both tell time, they are both
> pretty accurate. However, one is $1500 dollars more then the other.
> It rarely gets worn. The other is worn 16 hours a day. Which one
> gave me the better ROI?
Luxury goods aren't about ROI, they're about enjoyment. A $25
Casio will keep better time than my Breitling Navitimer, but I
enjoy wearing the Breitling.
Tom & Linda
ZombyWoof wrote:
>
> However, one is $1500 dollars more then the other.
> It rarely gets worn. The other is worn 16 hours a day. Which one
> gave me the better ROI?
I would call the first one poor capital management.
--Tom
Tom & Linda
Paul Tauger wrote:
>
>
> Personally, I'd be afraid to wear a real Rolex -- I'm very rough on my
> watches, and $10-15K is a lot of money for me. I used be quite happy with
> $200-300 Seiko or even Citizen watches,
16 years ago, my stainless steel diving Rolex cost about $900. A FAR
cry from $15,000. And probably less than most necklaces cost these
days. And it gets worn every day.
Never been opended/cleaned/nothinged in 16 years. Loses 1 minute in 3
months.
--Tom
Michael Bolner
a Rolex, but looked at a bunch of Tag and Concord watches. We found we could buy
any of them over the internet at or below any of the prices in St. Thomas or
Georgetown. NO sales tax either. We also found we could buy them locally for
only a bit more plus tax, but you could deal locally for piece of mind. Do your
homework before going and you may find a value in the islands. Have a great
trip.
Chuck.K
Zomb...@NoAddress.com says...
> Which begs the question why? I simply do see how wearing a watch with
> a name that is barely pronounceable can bring enjoyment. Unless of
> course its watch people attempt to say it's name properly.
>
> All in all one word. Pretentious.
Hmm, you drive a Corvette, right? (so do I, BTW)
WHY? A Malibu is just as good and a whole lot cheaper!
Why is it that your ostentatious purchases are more logical than
someone else's? When did YOU become the arbiter of what is and is not
"pretentious"?
I'd no sooner give up my Breitling or Movado or any of the other
watches in my collection than I would give up my Corvette or any of
the other cars, trucks and motorcycles.
Toys are how we keep count.............
Chuck
for a great deal on your next cruise, check out:
Tom & Linda
ZombyWoof wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:15 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> let us in on their opinion by saying:
>
> Which begs the question why? I simply do see how wearing a watch with
> a name that is barely pronounceable can bring enjoyment. Unless of
> course its watch people attempt to say it's name properly.
>
> All in all one word. Pretentious.
Isn't that the idea with ALL jewelry?
Or am I missing something???
Or... is pretentious one of those words that "you" get to define however
"you" choose to?
$1200 gold bracelet... NOT pretentious.
$5000 engagement ring... NOT pretentious.
But...
$1000 stainless steel watch... pretentious.
Hey... maybe I figured it out.
--Tom
Is that what you mean?
Paul Tauger
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Sounds comparable to my Longines. I agree, that your Rolex sounds like a
good watch.
>
> --Tom
Mflannery
>is
>> actually jumping five times per second so it looks like an electric watch
>that
>> sweeps. On cheap imitation watches the second jumps from second to second.
>> Paul
In St. Martins two years back, they had fake Rolex watches for $25 where the
second hand "jumped". For $75 they sold one that "swept", and weighed
considerably more.
A point I haven't seen mentioned on this tread is that it is illegal to bring
an imitation Rolex back to the US. It was specifically mentioned on the back
of the customs declaration along with Cuban cigars.
Mike in RI
Albert Nurick
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:15 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> let us in on their opinion by saying:
>
>> Casio will keep better time than my Breitling Navitimer, but I
>> enjoy wearing the Breitling.
>>
> a name that is barely pronounceable can bring enjoyment.
It's pronounced "Bright-ling". Not too tough. :-)
Why? Because I appreciate a fine mechanical device... the precision
by which it is assembled, the beauty of the face and case, the heft
of the watch, the strength and beauty of the stainless steel bracelet,
the history of a mechanical device that was introduced five decades ago but
still does its job
well.
It's art and engineering, along with high quality manufacturing,
all in one.
> Unless of
> course its watch people attempt to say it's name properly.
>
> All in all one word. Pretentious.
Not really. Most folks wouldn't know the difference between my
watch and a Seiko or Citizen. The folks who want pretentious
go for the gold Rolex encrusted with diamonds. ;-)
Albert Nurick
> 16 years ago, my stainless steel diving Rolex cost about $900. A FAR
> cry from $15,000. And probably less than most necklaces cost these
> days. And it gets worn every day.
>
> Never been opended/cleaned/nothinged in 16 years. Loses 1 minute in 3
> months.
Sounds like a fine watch. I'm not into Rolexes myself (you see 'em
everywhere in Houston, especially the Sub) but I appreciate their
obvious quality, and their ability to hold their value.
Thumper
I've got a 16 year old Seiko that cost $100 and has never been
opened/cleaned/etc. either.
Thumper
SEPrince1
at or above the price I paid. They are also handsome looking timepieces. There
not for everyone, but those that own them, love them. What other watch can be
worn to work around the house then be worn to a black tie event?
Own a Rolex and you'll know what I mean!
Steve In NorCal
"George Leppla" <geo...@cruisemaster.com> wrote in message
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> What a concept... a watch that pretty much just tells time! $29 at
Walmart.
> I guess I am one of those people who see a watch as a functional tool
rather
> than a piece of jewelry.
>
>
> George in PA
George
Count me in as one of those who see a watch strictly as a tool. Its all a
matter of personal priorities. I won't spend more than 100 bucks on a
watch; its just not something I want to spend money on. On the other hand,
I'll spend $500.00 on a meal and be happy to do it. I won't cruise unless I
can book a suite (ok, maybe a mini-suite if I have to). And yet, I won't
shell out money for an expensive luxury car.
Steve<-----thinks it all boils down to personal choice
Steve In NorCal
"SEPrince1" <sepr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Perhaps, but I have *never* noticed someone else's watch at a black tie
event.
Steve
Paul Tauger
"Mflannery" <mfla...@aol.com> wrote in message
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To clarify, there is a difference.
Cuban goods are subject to an official embargo. A fake Rolex infringes the
trademark and/or trade dress of Rolex, and may be seized by customs at the
port of entry. It is not, however, contraband in the same sense as the
cigars. I don't know if there is a criminal penalty for knowingly importing
Cuban cigars -- I expect that there may be, i.e. you may be fined. However,
if you buy a fake Rolex and customs seizes, you won't be fined (importing a
crateload is another story).
>
> Mike in RI
Paul Tauger
"Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com> wrote in message
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> ZombyWoof wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:15 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> > let us in on their opinion by saying:
> >
> >> Luxury goods aren't about ROI, they're about enjoyment. A $25
> >> Casio will keep better time than my Breitling Navitimer, but I
> >> enjoy wearing the Breitling.
> >>
> > Which begs the question why? I simply do see how wearing a watch with
> > a name that is barely pronounceable can bring enjoyment.
>
> It's pronounced "Bright-ling". Not too tough. :-)
>
> Why? Because I appreciate a fine mechanical device... the precision
> by which it is assembled, the beauty of the face and case, the heft
> of the watch, the strength and beauty of the stainless steel bracelet,
> the history of a mechanical device that was introduced five decades ago
but
> still does its job
> well.
>
> It's art and engineering, along with high quality manufacturing,
> all in one.
Very well said. You've described, exactly, what I like about my Longines.
My wife talked me into it -- I originally felt there wasn't any point in
having a more expensive watch. However, when I saw it and tried it on I was
converted.
N. Jill Velencia
<<On the other hand, I'll spend $500.00 on a meal and be happy to do
it.>>
Jill - Seattle
Road Runner
yes it is almost as accurate as a quartz watch. Have a few of those too.
The only Rolex dealer in St. Thomas was Little Switzerland. Their prices
were not all that good and by the time you pay the duty, you can do better
in the US with a little dealing. Not the Breitling is another story. Good
deals can be found in the islands.
Let the flames begin.
Ollie
George Leppla
"Road Runner" <for...@space.com> wrote
> Let the flames begin.
Nah... no flames needed. People buy what makes them happy. If you are
happy with something you bought, then it was worth what you paid for it and
you should enjoy it.
Jeff Coudriet
be.
Jeff
George Leppla wrote:.
Albert Nurick
> Very well said. You've described, exactly, what I like about my
> Longines. My wife talked me into it -- I originally felt there wasn't
> any point in having a more expensive watch. However, when I saw it
> and tried it on I was converted.
Exactly. Some folks appreciate fine objects, others do not, and who's
in which group depends on the object.
Albert Nurick
> On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 01:25:36 GMT, Chuck.K
> <Chuck.K!Hate...@Bigfoot.com> let us in on their opinion by saying:
>> Hmm, you drive a Corvette, right? (so do I, BTW)
>>
>> WHY? A Malibu is just as good and a whole lot cheaper!
>>
> handling, top end, re-sale value, chick magnet status ...etc
Hmmm... sounds kinda like the reasons some folks like fine
watches: Precision, quality feel, resale value, chick
magnet status... ;-)
>> I'd no sooner give up my Breitling or Movado or any of the other
>> watches in my collection than I would give up my Corvette or any of
>> the other cars, trucks and motorcycles.
>>
>> Toys are how we keep count.............
> Hey if a watch gives you wood, go for it. However, I retain my right
> to think it is stupid.
Different strokes, and all.
> I know of people who bought Corvettes as
> "Investments". I know a guy with a 231 mile ZR-1. Pretty stupid if
> you ask me. Here he has one of the finest day Corvettes made and has
> never even taken the pleasure of using it.
I know folks who buy things as investments; I prefer to wear my
wristwatches. I rotate through them regularly, wearing the one that
fits my mood and my wardrobe. (Today's was the Breitling Navitimer.)
Albert Nurick
> On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 02:42:11 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> let us in on their opinion by saying:
>> watch and a Seiko or Citizen. The folks who want pretentious
>> go for the gold Rolex encrusted with diamonds. ;-)
>>
> expensive simply because the are expensive though.
Without a doubt. Same folks who buy whatever the trendy brand
is, without knowing whether or not it is actually a good choice
at the price point.
Here in Houston, we see 'em all over: Driving a BMW, wearing a
Rolex Sub, eating at the trendy expensive chain restaurants,
etc., etc. The essence of the anti-connosseur.
I'll bet lots of 'em buy art on cruises. ;-)
Tom & Linda
Albert Nurick wrote:
>
>
> Here in Houston, we see 'em all over: Driving a BMW, wearing a
> Rolex Sub, eating at the trendy expensive chain restaurants,
> etc., etc. The essence of the anti-connosseur.
>
> I'll bet lots of 'em buy art on cruises. ;-)
>
Not me.
Sub - YES.
Ship Art... ( which is just fancy color Xerox copies) - NO.
Big difference between buying quality vs. spending foolishly.
--Tom
Albert Nurick
Didn't mean to step on any toes; the Sub is a fine watch, but it
has become the modern Texas Timex... yuppidroids buy 'em because
they see their friends wearing them, not because they actually
appreciate the wristwatch.
Albert Nurick
> On Fri, 02 Aug 2002 03:03:08 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> let us in on their opinion by saying:
>
>> ZombyWoof wrote:
>>> On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 01:25:36 GMT, Chuck.K
>>> <Chuck.K!Hate...@Bigfoot.com> let us in on their opinion by
>>> saying:
>>>> Hmm, you drive a Corvette, right? (so do I, BTW)
>>>>
>>>> WHY? A Malibu is just as good and a whole lot cheaper!
>>>>
>>> That simply isn't true in a number of categories. Acceleration,
>>> handling, top end, re-sale value, chick magnet status ...etc
>>
>> Hmmm... sounds kinda like the reasons some folks like fine
>> watches: Precision, quality feel, resale value, chick
>> magnet status... ;-)
>>
> be the one with a problem.
There's more to it than just fast. Heck, if that were the case, you
wouldn't want a Vette, you'd want the latest Japanese 1100cc sport
bike.
Folks buy things for a variety of reasons. No one *needs* a
Corvette, or a $5K wristwatch. But some folks *want* them enough
to buy 'em.
The $20 Casio is the Hyundai of the watch world: It'll tell time
just fine, just as the Hyundai will get you to your destination
just fine. But if you want a bit of style, appreciate quality
design and craftsmanship, you might want something a bit farther
up the food chain... be it a fine Swiss watch or a fine
automobile.
--
Albert "I'll take both, please" Nurick
alb...@nurick.com
www.nurick.com
George Leppla
"Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com> wrote
> Exactly. Some folks appreciate fine objects, others do not, and who's
> in which group depends on the object.
I don't know... I can appreciate many fine things in the world. I just
don't feel the need to own them. If owning an expensive watch or car makes
you feel good, go for it! "Owning" things never really did much to make me
happy, but that doesn't prevent me from appreciating them when I see them.
I drive a Ford and a Chevy... my watch is a Timex. My most prized
possessions are gifts that people have given me that have some personal
meaning for me. I guess I am more interested in function than form.
Steve In NorCal
"N. Jill Velencia" <NJ...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Lol....sure, come one down!
Steve
Ray Goldenberg
wrote:
> On the other hand,
>I'll spend $500.00 on a meal and be happy to do it.
Hi Steve,
As you know, it is easy to spend that much here in California on a
family. This is especially true if you "Super-Size" it. <;+)
Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
Albert Nurick
> On Fri, 02 Aug 2002 04:40:01 GMT, "Albert Nurick" <alb...@nurick.com>
> let us in on their opinion by saying:
>
>> Corvette, or a $5K wristwatch. But some folks *want* them enough
>> to buy 'em.
>>
I used to autocross, and there were folks in all sorts of cars,
from ancient econoboxes to Ferraris. IIRC, Corvettes weren't
their own class, but that was 10 years ago. ;-) It's not about
the car, it's about the driver, although the poor drivers spent
a huge amount of money trying to modify their cars in an attempt
to be as fast as the good drivers in more pedestrian hardware.
> Might also get kicked out of my Corvette Club too.
Ummm... yep. Any product-specific club would be of more interest to
those who own the product. Doesn't matter if it's a car or anything
else.
>> The $20 Casio is the Hyundai of the watch world: It'll tell time
>> just fine, just as the Hyundai will get you to your destination
>> just fine. But if you want a bit of style, appreciate quality
>> design and craftsmanship, you might want something a bit farther
>> up the food chain... be it a fine Swiss watch or a fine
>> automobile.
>>
> I seem to not be making my case properly. I know doodle squat about
> watches. I buy one the looks decent on my arm, and doesn't require
> the mortgaging of my other arm.
Makes sense. Sounds like a Honda; looks OK, not too expensive, works
well.
> If a $20 Casio is a Hyundai (now we
> need to debate which model) then what is a Corvette in watch terms.
IMO, it would be a Tag-Heuer. Considered by the masses to be a fine
watch, looked down upon by watch snobs. Kinda like the Corvette.
Not cheap, but not in the big leagues of cost. A quality product,
but not in the upper echelons of quality. Figure $1K-$2K.
> It certainly isn't a 15K watch. Not with a Ferrari and other exotics
> selling at 3 - times a Corvette.
Most high-end makers offer exotic complicated watches with features
like minute repeaters (mechanical chimes that tell the time when
you push a small button), split chronographs, perpetual calendars,
tourbillons (a mechanical device which purports to make the balance
wheel more accurate, but adds a whole bunch of cost.) and others.
Watches with all these goodies sell well in excess of $100,000.
That's the exotica of the watch world, and doesn't count the one-offs
that are *really* expensive.
Watches get expensive two ways: Because of their complications,
and because of their status as jewelery (gold or platinum instead
of stainless, precious stones.)
It's like anything else: To enthusiasts, they're objects to be
lusted after, most folks wonder what the big deal is. Cars have
a more central spot in our culture, thus the average teen male is
an auto enthusiast.
ObCruise: I didn't see any of these on Grand Cayman.
Steve In NorCal
"Ray Goldenberg" <r...@lighthousetravel.com> wrote in message
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Ray, so true...a double cheeseburger and a bottle of Petrus will do it every
time...
Steve<----still thinking about moving to SB, so hope to meet you one day..
Paul Schilter
Naw, it's Elvis on velvet. ;-)
Paul
"ZombyWoof" <Zomb...@NoAddress.com> wrote in message
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snipped
> Somebody must. I admit I don't know art, I only know what I like, I
> don't like any of that stuff. To me most of it is only a step up from
> dogs playing poker or Jesus on velvet.
>
>
Chuck.K
Zomb...@NoAddress.com says...
> That simply isn't true in a number of categories. Acceleration,
> handling, top end, re-sale value, chick magnet status ...etc
And you think watches are all the same?
> I don't know. Doesn't the stupidity test?
If you can't understand the difference, then...... YES!
> Hey if a watch gives you wood, go for it. However, I retain my right
> to think it is stupid. I know of people who bought Corvettes as
> "Investments". I know a guy with a 231 mile ZR-1. Pretty stupid if
> you ask me. Here he has one of the finest day Corvettes made and has
> never even taken the pleasure of using it.
Sorry, but my wife "gives me wood".
The toys simply make life interesting and fun.
The guy you "know" is a moron.
Chuck
for a great deal on your next cruise, check out:
Odysseus
asked for about $23 US. I told him what I paid in Thailand. I ended up paying about $12.50 US.
>
>
>No, but I bought one on 7th Ave South in NYC for $15 the other day! <grin>
>
>--Tim
>"Michael Bean" <mmb...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
>news:G7119.5233$CC1.64...@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am wondering if any out there has purchased a Rolex from A.H. Riise in
>St.
>> Thomas lately?
>>
>> I was going to buy one (Submariner) a couple of years ago and after
>shopping
>> around I found at that time I could have saved about $800 buying it there.
>> I decided against it then, but I am getting the urge to make the purchase
>> again. We will be making a stop there on the Radiance OTS in a few months
>> and I was wondering if anyone could fill me in on how much they saved
>> recently.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
ptsha...@gmail.com
Real pieces of shit I'm not rich I bought the watches for me I worked my ass off And now they want me to pay for a demo watch Just to let you know the GMT I purchased in Hingham Ma They took the plastic off the watch right in front of me no bullshit at all I wish I purchased the Sub here I guess I'll just have to live with my mistake
Gettamulla Tupya
bil...@m.nu
a high gloss shine is an idiot and should not be allowed to operate in
public. If you are so vein that you have to have expensixe bits of
glass and metal in order to tell the time then you are surely an
idiot. You deserve all the trouble that you get. Buy a freakin casio
and be done with it.
Jr.
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>>>>purchase there. If you paid with an American Express card or a gold or
>>>>platinum Visa or MasterCard then they also guarantee your purchase.'
It is only guaranteed for 90 days so you would have had to make the claim
then.