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Sue and Kevin Mullen

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Dec 19, 2003, 9:07:02 PM12/19/03
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Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation
from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer. They are moving the Voyager and
the Nordic Empress, Celebrity ships will be staying in Manhattan.

sue


Ira Jay Scheer

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Dec 19, 2003, 11:55:29 PM12/19/03
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"Sue and Kevin Mullen" <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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This is really sad, since it means we don't get the view of the NYC skyline
as we sail, since Bayonne is well south of Manhattan. Just the view of
lower Manhattan from a distance. I will really miss sailing past the
skyline on Voyager next summer - that was always one of the great pleasures
of sailing from NYC. Oh well, maybe the parking will be cheaper.

Ira J. Scheer

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Warren H. Davis

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Dec 20, 2003, 12:52:38 AM12/20/03
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>Just read on Cruise News Daily that RCCL will be moving their operation
>from Manhattan to Bayonne next summer.

Good Grief! Bayonne? (rolling my eyes)

Ok, I'll answer the first inevitable question: Newark is the most convenient
airport for cruising out of...Bayonne.

Warren


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Bonnie Voyager

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Dec 20, 2003, 6:42:02 AM12/20/03
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Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<bs0asb$89130$1...@ID-128032.news.uni-berlin.de>...

I read that it will be 3-5 years before the new port is ready to
receive RCCL's ships in Bayonne and that they will remain at the
Westside ports till then. Here's the URL to the site where I read it.


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7535176.htm

MJDEEG

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Dec 20, 2003, 7:29:56 AM12/20/03
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here is the press release:

Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority (BLRA) Enters Agreement with Royal
Caribbean to Create Cruise Port at The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor


BAYONNE, N.J., Dec. 19 /PRNewswire/ -- The Bayonne Local Redevelopment
Authority (BLRA) Board of Commissioners voted last night to enter into an
agreement with Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. to establish a cruise port at the
former Bayonne Military Ocean Terminal (MOTBY).

The agreement provides for a long-term lease that will allow Royal Caribbean to
develop a cruise port on a portion of the 430-acre peninsula. The cruise port
will be located along the north shore just east of the Maritime Industrial
District and west of a planned waterfront park that will offer unobstructed
views of the Statue of Liberty, lower Manhattan and the Verrazano Bridge.

The new facility will serve as a seasonal homeport to two Royal Caribbean
International ships, including one of the world's largest cruise ships, the
3,114-passenger Voyager of the Seas, which makes her New York metro area debut
in May 2004.

The cruise port will feature a passenger terminal, ship berths, Customs and INS
facilities, visitor parking, bus and taxi areas, as well as access to public
transportation including ferry service and Light Rail.

"We are thrilled that Royal Caribbean discovered what a great place Bayonne is
to do business," said Bayonne Mayor Joseph V. Doria, Jr. "This agreement
represents the first significant achievement following the BLRA's announced
public-private cooperative venture with Fidelco Bayonne Realty and one of many
exciting announcements we expect to make in the coming year."

According to BLRA Chairman Howard Fitch, "This was truly a team effort. Our
congratulations go to the BLRA staff and to our partners at Fidelco Bayonne
Realty whose professional expertise helped make this deal happen."

Marc E. Berson, a principal of Fidelco Bayonne Realty, said this deal is "just
the beginning" of what is possible when the public and private sector work
together as true partners. "Our public-private partnership is already working
the way we had envisioned it. We look forward to building on this success in
the months ahead."

"We are extremely pleased to be working with the BLRA and to be able to cement
our presence in the market at such an ideal location, both for our expanded
operations and the convenience of our guests," said Adam Goldstein, executive
vice president, Royal Caribbean.

The Peninsula at Bayonne Harbor is a man-made peninsula that extends two miles
into Upper New York Harbor.

"Our agreement with Royal Caribbean will help Bayonne move forward in achieving
the goal of replacing jobs lost -- as a result of the closure of the base,"
said Maria Karczewski, BLRA Commissioner and City Council member.

"There has already been tremendous progress at The Peninsula at Bayonne
Harbor," said Vincent Lo Re, Jr., BLRA Commissioner and City Council president.
"But this agreement with Royal Caribbean is proof positive that we can and
will attract high-caliber businesses to The Peninsula."

Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the immediate
future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise terminal and
supporting facilities. Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. is a global cruise
vacation company that operates Royal Caribbean International and Celebrity
Cruises, with a combined total of 27 ships in service and two under
construction or on firm order.

Ships carried goods from the MOTBY terminal for every US military operation
from World War II to the Persian Gulf, Somalia and Haiti missions in the 1990s.
At its peak, MOTBY employed about 3,000 civilians and US Army personnel and
handled more than 1 million tons of cargo each year.

The Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority was created in 1998 to redevelop the
former military base which today stands as the largest tract of undeveloped
land in the New York metropolitan area. Future plans for The Peninsula at
Bayonne Harbor call for a vibrant mixed-use waterfront development comprised of
residential, light industrial and office space, film studios, a riverwalk and
numerous recreational areas with parks and playgrounds.

For more information, please contact Jessica Barnes at (201) 451-3444.

SOURCE Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority

CO: Bayonne Local Redevelopment Authority; Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd.

ST: New Jersey

SU:

http://www.prnewswire.com

12/19/2003 12:09 EST


Happy Cruisin'
Mark
Home Port:
Monmouth County,NJ.

jcoulter

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Dec 20, 2003, 8:42:42 AM12/20/03
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bonnie...@comcast.net (Bonnie Voyager) wrote in
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Applicable language from the news release:

Tom & Linda

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Dec 20, 2003, 10:37:50 AM12/20/03
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It's not really that far south. When we go to Liberty State Park, which
is in Jersey City, and just north of Bayonne, we're right opposite where
the Twin Towers stood.

--Tom

Tom & Linda

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Dec 20, 2003, 10:45:35 AM12/20/03
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If you've been caught in 2 hours worth of traffic to go the last 3
blocks to get to the ships in Manhattan... it won't be a bad idea to
spread out the ships (and traffic) some.

While I love sailing out of Manhattan... I hate getting to the ship in
Manhattan.

--Tom

Rich Cacace

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Dec 20, 2003, 11:23:36 AM12/20/03
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Aren't they adding train service to the Bayonne area shortly connecting to
northern Jersey?


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Sue and Kevin Mullen

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Dec 20, 2003, 11:33:06 AM12/20/03
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It will be that long before their new terminal is ready, but they will
start cruising from Bayonne next summer. Here is a quote from the
article posted by MJDEEG in this thread.

Royal Caribbean will operate out of existing structures for the
immediate future. Long-term plans call for construction of a new cruise
terminal and supporting facilities.

sue

Sue and Kevin Mullen

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Dec 20, 2003, 11:37:15 AM12/20/03
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Tom & Linda wrote:

> If you've been caught in 2 hours worth of traffic to go the last 3
> blocks to get to the ships in Manhattan... it won't be a bad idea to
> spread out the ships (and traffic) some.
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> While I love sailing out of Manhattan... I hate getting to the ship in
> Manhattan.

Tom, I have to agree with you, the traffic in NY around the pier is
horrible. Next time we are ready to sail to Bermuda, I will "consider"
the Nordic Empress so we don't have to go into Manhattan.

sue

Tom & Linda

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Dec 20, 2003, 12:55:48 PM12/20/03
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The article said that light rail, connecting with Amtrak, and therefore
also Newark Airport, was already there in place.

--Tom

Stan

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Dec 21, 2003, 2:47:22 AM12/21/03
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Actually, the light rail will connect you with PATH trains. You then
have to go to Newark Penn Station, and again, change trains to get on
a NJ Transit train or Amtrak train to get to the airport. You may also
take the light rail to Hoboken terminal, board a NJ Transit train to
the new Secaucus Transfer Station, and again, change trains to either
a NJT train or Amtrak train to the airport. Once at the airport, you
have to schlep up the escalator with your luggage, and catch the
monorail to your terminal. I don't think there is anymore of a direct
rail route than those two options, although I haven't worked in N.
Jersey for a while now.

JJ

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Dec 21, 2003, 8:00:46 AM12/21/03
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Well, being from Long Island, there is no way I would truck over to Bayonne
instead of hoping a bermuda cruise from manhattan. JJ

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KPJEG

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Dec 21, 2003, 8:51:46 AM12/21/03
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Bayown would be a great spot !!! The piers in NYC are very old and out of date
!!! when you get 3 to 5 mager ships in it can take up to an hour and a half to
get to the pier from 11 ave !!! The city piers are not very good for the new
magers ships !! Even from NYC it will be earyer to get to the piers in Bayown
then in NYC You take the Path to Hoboken then talk the light rail to Bayown
!!And it's about a 15 to 20 min. ride from Newark . And the Peninsula is going
to be a really great plase when it's done . You get a really great view of NYC
& the port from there . And driving to the new port in Bayown will be so much
easyer then having to go in to the city !!The new terminal is going to be for
any a away better then the one in the city !!! The like everything eles is just
to crowed !!!

When people ask where to stay when going on a cruise from NYC i tell them to
stay in Weehawken there's a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with
ferry service to the city a few blocks from the piers,at half of what it
cost's in the city !! And alot of people from this and other BB's have thanked
me for giving them this info.Also there is going to be a new Hotel in Hoboken
on the water front next to the Path . Then you could take the Path or ferry in
to the city !! NYC is a great place to visit but i would never like to stay
there !!! Everything in the city is very over priced !!! That's why the
waterfront in NJ is growing so big . Just look at the Jersay side the next time
you take a cruise out of NYC !! Oh by the way when we go on the Dawn in august
we will be taking the ferry to the ship !! When we get of the ship we will be
home in 20 mi !!
Ken G...> Merry X Mas ...............>
Ken G.........>

Ray Goldenberg

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:43:55 AM12/21/03
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 02:47:22 -0500, Stan
<choochoo*nospam*@comcast.net> wrote:

> I don't think there is anymore of a direct
>rail route than those two options, although I haven't worked in N.
>Jersey for a while now.

Hi Everyone,

I am sure the cruise lines will be providing transfers to the
airport(s).

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

Ira Jay Scheer

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Dec 21, 2003, 12:28:10 PM12/21/03
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Probably too early to answer this question, but I'll ask it anyway. In June
2004, will there be long-term parking there ?

Ira J. Scheer

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Rich Cacace

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Dec 21, 2003, 10:55:22 PM12/21/03
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I'll bet there will, but I doubt if the prices will be much better that the
$24 per day NYC price. I would take a guess at around $18 to $20 per day.

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SNUMBER6

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Dec 22, 2003, 9:47:34 AM12/22/03
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>From: kp...@aol.com (KPJEG)

> there's a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with
>ferry service to the city

One may call that a very short cruise ...

Be seeing you
In the Village
Number 6

Tom & Linda

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Dec 22, 2003, 6:00:16 PM12/22/03
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SNUMBER6 wrote:
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> >From: kp...@aol.com (KPJEG)
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> > there's a really great Sheridan suits right on the river with
> >ferry service to the city
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> One may call that a very short cruise ...
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Or "tendering".

--Tom

SNUMBER6

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Dec 22, 2003, 9:01:18 PM12/22/03
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>From: Tom & Linda TKAN...@worldnet.att.net

>> One may call that a very short cruise ...
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>Or "tendering".

That ferry is not much of a problem ... but that high speed South Amboy one
screws up a perfect fluke drift everytime ...

Tom & Linda

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Dec 22, 2003, 9:53:44 PM12/22/03
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SNUMBER6 wrote:
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> >From: Tom & Linda TKAN...@worldnet.att.net
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> >> One may call that a very short cruise ...
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> >Or "tendering".
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> That ferry is not much of a problem ... but that high speed South Amboy one
> screws up a perfect fluke drift everytime ...
>

Not for the fluke.

--Tom

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