Tip for helicopter pilot?
McR
tip for a group of four? Can't see 20 percent of a thousand bucks!
Bill Wragg
chopper are in the neighborhood of $600 ++/hour depending on use.
Would you tip a waiter if you knew he made $40/hour?
2cents.
Have a nice trip.
Bill
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Ike
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Why not? Tips are based on the service you receive, not on how much they
earn per hour.
40 or so years ago when I was moonlightning as a dinner cook in a fancy
club, my hourly wage was a little higher than a waitress, mainly because
they got all the tips and I got yelled at. HOWEVER, it didn't take long
before some of the regular customers started barging into the kitchen to
give me a tip. Nice ones too. $20 here, $40 there, etc. That pissed the
waitresses off, but hell, I just told them if they split their tips with me,
I'd be happy with that.
Cardinal rule as the only cook - don't quit and walk of the job with food
orders on the spindle. I did this twice and was rehired both times. The
waitresses finally shut the hell up and let me do my job.
Sooo, give a good tip for good service, regardless of wages. If you are
against that, stay out of places where you may have to leave a tip. I
ALWAYS tip, no matter what the service is like. A buck means I got bad
service. 30% of the tab means they did an outstanding job, and if I
personally walk up to the wait staff and give them the tip, it means I'll be
back, so don't forget me when I return.
LeeNY
> Would you tip a waiter if you knew he made $40/hour?
Absolutely I would. Restaurant service, in the U.S. is customarily a
tipped position. It's none of my business what the waiter makes, as it
is none of my business what anyone makes (except for my staff, that
is). If I'm served a meal in a restaurant in the US, I tip. No
question.
Lee
Rosalie B.
>Bill Wragg wrote:
>> Would you tip a waiter if you knew he made $40/hour?
>
>Absolutely I would. Restaurant service, in the U.S. is customarily a
>tipped position. It's none of my business what the waiter makes, as it
>is none of my business what anyone makes (except for my staff, that
>is). If I'm served a meal in a restaurant in the US, I tip. No
>question.
>
My question would be - is the helicopter pilot a customarily tipped
position? And if it is, why? I don't expect to tip the flight crew
on an airliner.
I know that tour guides expect tips, and sometimes we do and sometimes
we don't depending on how we feel about the job they do.
We always tip in restaurants (in the US) and we do it kind of like
someone else in the thread said - always over 15% unless the service
is lousy or they have some kind of mandatory service charge. If
there's a charge on the ticket, we leave it at that and don't tip
extra.
>> Bill
>> "McR" <rox...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>> > Booked a helicopter tour in Alaska this summer. What is the appropriate
>> > tip for a group of four? Can't see 20 percent of a thousand bucks!
>> >
grandma Rosalie
LeeNY
> My question would be - is the helicopter pilot a customarily tipped
> position? And if it is, why? I don't expect to tip the flight crew
> on an airliner.
Flight crews on airliners are not customarily tipped...it's not
regarded as a profession where tipping is expected or where tips are
extended. Tour guides (and I would probably include the pilot in this)
do generally get tipped...at least by me. That is, unless the pilot is
also the owner of the operation. I don't believe tips are customarily
extended to owners of businesses where tipping is expected.
> I know that tour guides expect tips, and sometimes we do and sometimes
> we don't depending on how we feel about the job they do.
I always try to recognize the hard work of tour guides with a monetary
acknowledgement.
Yes, a tip on $1000 tour would be considerable. But, if it's
established that the pilot is deserving of a tip, he should hardly be
penalized in the tip amount because of the price of the tour (a price
he didn't set, and doesn't necessarily benefit from). At a pricey
restaurant, do you set yourself a limit as to how much you're willing
to tip, regardless of the cost of the meal? I just don't think the high
price of the helicopter tour should influence how much of a tip is
extended to the tour guide...that is, if in the end, it's established
that this is a tipped position.
Lee
Rosalie B.
>Rosalie B. wrote:
>
>> My question would be - is the helicopter pilot a customarily tipped
>> position? And if it is, why? I don't expect to tip the flight crew
>> on an airliner.
>
>Flight crews on airliners are not customarily tipped...it's not
>regarded as a profession where tipping is expected or where tips are
>extended. Tour guides (and I would probably include the pilot in this)
>do generally get tipped...at least by me. That is, unless the pilot is
>also the owner of the operation. I don't believe tips are customarily
>extended to owners of businesses where tipping is expected.
That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. At least, I do tip my
hairdresser - she seems to expect it even though she owns the shop.
>
>> I know that tour guides expect tips, and sometimes we do and sometimes
>> we don't depending on how we feel about the job they do.
>
>I always try to recognize the hard work of tour guides with a monetary
>acknowledgement.
>
Sometimes I think they don't deserve anything because they haven't
done any work, have lied to me or have given out bogus information
that I KNOW is false.
>Yes, a tip on $1000 tour would be considerable. But, if it's
>established that the pilot is deserving of a tip, he should hardly be
>penalized in the tip amount because of the price of the tour (a price
>he didn't set, and doesn't necessarily benefit from). At a pricey
>restaurant, do you set yourself a limit as to how much you're willing
>to tip, regardless of the cost of the meal? I just don't think the high
If I am in a pricey restaurant (which I try to avoid), I don't order
anything that I can't afford and that keeps the tip within what I
think would be reasonable. It sometimes makes the server annoyed when
we don't order expensive drinks, and that adversely affects what tip
they would have gotten if they had actually gone on ahead and given us
good service even though we weren't ordering the most expensive stuff
on the menu.
Actually, I think the servers in less expensive restaurants deserve a
higher percentage tip than the ones in expensive restaurants do. They
do just as much work.
>price of the helicopter tour should influence how much of a tip is
>extended to the tour guide...that is, if in the end, it's established
>that this is a tipped position.
>
>Lee
How would you establish that this is a tipped position?
I took a seaplane from Key West to the Dry Tortugas and the pilot had
a sign in the plane saying that tips were welcome. I didn't have
anything except a $20 bill with me and I didn't feel like giving him
that much, so I bought a post card to get change. But in the end,
there was a fault in the engine of the plane, so I had to come back in
the ferry and he didn't get his tip.
>> We always tip in restaurants (in the US) and we do it kind of like
>> someone else in the thread said - always over 15% unless the service
>> is lousy or they have some kind of mandatory service charge. If
>> there's a charge on the ticket, we leave it at that and don't tip
>> extra.
>>
>>
>> >> Bill
>> >> "McR" <rox...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:10819-442...@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net...
>> >> > Booked a helicopter tour in Alaska this summer. What is the appropriate
>> >> > tip for a group of four? Can't see 20 percent of a thousand bucks!
>> >> >
>>
>> grandma Rosalie
grandma Rosalie
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> Rosalie B. wrote:
>
>> My question would be - is the helicopter pilot a customarily tipped
>> position? And if it is, why? I don't expect to tip the flight crew
>> on an airliner.
>
> Flight crews on airliners are not customarily tipped...it's not
> regarded as a profession where tipping is expected or where tips are
> extended. Tour guides (and I would probably include the pilot in this)
> do generally get tipped...at least by me. That is, unless the pilot is
> also the owner of the operation. I don't believe tips are customarily
> extended to owners of businesses where tipping is expected.
>
<snip>
What difference does it make if the person in question is the owner or not?
Did they provide a service just as one of their employees?
The guy that cuts my hair owns the barber shop. I give him a tip each time
because he always takes his time and does a great job...
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C. Massey
> Bill Wragg wrote:
>> Would you tip a waiter if you knew he made $40/hour?
>
> Absolutely I would. Restaurant service, in the U.S. is customarily a
> tipped position. It's none of my business what the waiter makes, as it
> is none of my business what anyone makes (except for my staff, that
> is). If I'm served a meal in a restaurant in the US, I tip. No
> question.
>
You tip no matter what? Actually, I guess that I do too. If I receive great
service, I will tip 20-25%, average service will get about 15% and poor
service will get some pocket change, maybe $0.35 or so...
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Rosalie B.
>
>"LeeNY" <lee...@campmor.com> wrote in message
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>> Rosalie B. wrote:
>>
>>> My question would be - is the helicopter pilot a customarily tipped
>>> position? And if it is, why? I don't expect to tip the flight crew
>>> on an airliner.
>>
>> Flight crews on airliners are not customarily tipped...it's not
>> regarded as a profession where tipping is expected or where tips are
>> extended. Tour guides (and I would probably include the pilot in this)
>> do generally get tipped...at least by me. That is, unless the pilot is
>> also the owner of the operation. I don't believe tips are customarily
>> extended to owners of businesses where tipping is expected.
>>
><snip>
>
>What difference does it make if the person in question is the owner or not?
>Did they provide a service just as one of their employees?
>
>The guy that cuts my hair owns the barber shop. I give him a tip each time
>because he always takes his time and does a great job...
>
It used to be judged incorrect to tip a business owner because he or
she gets all the profits from the business and can take his or her
salary from there. They can set their fees and hours and decide what
services to offer etc.
http://hotels.about.com/od/hotelsecrets/a/tipping.htm
>In general, tipping etiquette dictates that business owners are not given tips.
http://www.bremercommunications.com/Tipping.htm says that in
Singapore, Germany and Brazil the owner of the establishment is never
tipped (Barbers and Beauty Shops)
grandma Rosalie
Newby
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> "LeeNY" <lee...@campmor.com> wrote in message
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> > Rosalie B. wrote:
> >
>
> The guy that cuts my hair owns the barber shop. I give him a tip each time
> because he always takes his time and does a great job...
>
Aren't you paying for his time and for him to do a good job? Why do you
feel the need to give him a tip when he sets the price for the service he
provides?
Just wondering...
D Ball
We have taken several air/heli flightsees. We don't tip pilots on a cost
percentage basis. The tour cost alreadys includes a component for the
compensation the pilot is being paid as an aviation professional. We tip
pilots on the basis of their *personal service* as a tour guide.
As for how much, the key is, What is your pilot doing on your flightsee? If
the pilot does little more than make sure everyone's safely settled in the
plane and fly you around, then the pilot has performed the aviator's job
he/she is being paid to perform. However, if the pilot greets you on land,
tells you about what you're going to see, asks if you have any special
requests or needs, personally narrates the flight with information about
what you are seeing, responds to your questions, performs any custom flight
services and/or otherwise acts like a tour guide in addition to piloting,
then the pilot has provided you with a direct personal service, which you
may choose to recognize based on your degree of satisfaction with the
service.
There is no gold standard for tour guide tipping because it's hard to
generalize--every tour situation is unique. But I know how frustrating it is
to not get a dollars and cents answer to tipping questions, so I'll be bold
and just say what we do--others might scoff it's too little or too much, in
that case, we'll both have something to think about! But we do travel a fair
amount, and I feel pretty comfortable we're in the ballpark. Our "feels
right" minimum tip is usually $10 per person for any custom or small group
tour or guided travel activity in the 2-4 hour range or for those shorter,
pricier excursions like flight tours. Depending on how enthused we are about
the role the guide played in our overall tour experience, we go higher, of
course. Although we do not think percentage tipping is applicable per se, on
a big ticket item like a heli tour, I will often use 10% of the tour cost as
the maximum potential tip and then figure out where we think this guide's
tip fits in the range, i.e., in your case, I'd look at something in the
$10-25 per person range, or $40-100 total. We travel as a party of four, as
well, and often, it comes down to what bills are handy--a crisp $50 bill or
three $20 bills is probably our average "we really liked it" tip. If we're
all jumping up and down about it, four $20 bills will do the trick. If we
grab a Ben Franklin and practically shove it at the guide, it means we're
giddy and have lost our heads, LOL. But it's happened! In fact, we did it on
our Alaskan cruise trip with our Denali flight tour. On reflection, I'm sure
we were carried away with the mountain as much as anything...but our pilot
was, in fact, awesome, he did some very thrilling navigation "tricks" that
enhanced our experience, he knew his history and mountain/glacier/geography
facts backwards and forwards, he told some fascinating stories, he took
great care of the little ones and the older ones, his jokes were clean and
funny...what can I say?! He earned his $100.
Have a wonderful trip!
Diana Ball
near Houston, TX
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> "C. Massey" <ch...@host.invalid> wrote:
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>>
>>"LeeNY" <lee...@campmor.com> wrote in message
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>>> Rosalie B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> My question would be - is the helicopter pilot a customarily tipped
>>>> position? And if it is, why? I don't expect to tip the flight crew
>>>> on an airliner.
>>>
>>> Flight crews on airliners are not customarily tipped...it's not
>>> regarded as a profession where tipping is expected or where tips are
>>> extended. Tour guides (and I would probably include the pilot in this)
>>> do generally get tipped...at least by me. That is, unless the pilot is
>>> also the owner of the operation. I don't believe tips are customarily
>>> extended to owners of businesses where tipping is expected.
>>>
>><snip>
>>
>>What difference does it make if the person in question is the owner or
>>not?
>>Did they provide a service just as one of their employees?
>>
>>The guy that cuts my hair owns the barber shop. I give him a tip each time
>>because he always takes his time and does a great job...
>>
> It used to be judged incorrect to tip a business owner because he or
> she gets all the profits from the business and can take his or her
> salary from there. They can set their fees and hours and decide what
> services to offer etc.
>
I see what you are saying, but again, I feel the if the owner is performing
the same work or service as the employee's, he/she deserves a tip just as
anyone else... But, that is just *my* personal feelings...
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Why not? He is cutting my hair just as an employee would be. True, he more
than likely brings home quite a bit more than the employees, but he still
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>Yes, a tip on $1000 tour would be considerable. But, if it's
>established that the pilot is deserving of a tip, he should hardly be
>penalized in the tip amount because of the price of the tour (a price
>he didn't set, and doesn't necessarily benefit from). At a pricey
>restaurant, do you set yourself a limit as to how much you're willing
>to tip, regardless of the cost of the meal? I just don't think the high
>price of the helicopter tour should influence how much of a tip is
>extended to the tour guide...that is, if in the end, it's established
>that this is a tipped position.
If the pilot served as a tour guide, feel free to tip him or her.
Remember, tipping doesn't HAVE to be related to the expense of the
service rendered. Give the pilot the same tip you would give to any
tour guide who provided that quality of service for that period of
time, whether on a 'copter, a bus, or on foot.
Reclining Buddha
The Original Couch Potato!
shoreguy
tip for a group of four? Can't see 20 percent of a thousand bucks!
Interesting question and an issue I just faced not in Alaska but in Vegas
last weekend. Grand Canyon tour $379 pp. Six passengers and we all asked
each other upon return the same question - How much ?
We all settled on a minimum of $10 pp. I gave him $20 pp. A little extra
pocket money and a nice way to say you did a great job. In my view this is
not a position that depends on tips to make a good living. As we learned as
part of the onboard dialog the pilots home cost north of 300K. I did not
feel the standard restaurant guidelines had any merit in this situation.
As it turned out I think he was surprised that we tipped at all. He did a
great job. Entertained us for 3 hours and we all felt a little something was
the right thing to do.
LeeNY
> That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. At least, I do tip my
> hairdresser - she seems to expect it even though she owns the shop.
I'm only going by what my mom taught me, way back when. To me, it just
makes sense NOT to tip an owner, even if I am receiving services from
them. They set the price for the service, and get the entire profit
from the fee, whereas an employee doesn't. Maybe it's a regional thing.
Like I said, it's what I was taught, when I became cognizant of these
things, and it's a practice in which I follow. Far as I can tell, no
owner has seemed particularly expectant of a tip, unless I've been
totally oblivious, which is definitely a possibility.
> Sometimes I think they don't deserve anything because they haven't
> done any work, have lied to me or have given out bogus information
> that I KNOW is false.
Well, then by all means, if you feel you didn't receive a service
that's deserving of a tip, you shouldn't offer one.
> If I am in a pricey restaurant (which I try to avoid), I don't order
> anything that I can't afford and that keeps the tip within what I
> think would be reasonable.
Hmm. I'd just as well skip the pricey meal if I wasn't able to avail
myself of the full experience of the menu.
> Actually, I think the servers in less expensive restaurants deserve a
> higher percentage tip than the ones in expensive restaurants do. They
> do just as much work.
I disagree here. Waiters at high end restaurants provide high end
service whereas waiters in diners provide diner-style service. There
definitely is a difference in service in high end restaurants (at least
there should be). Any rating system...Michelin, Zagats, etc. takes
service into consideration when formulating their rating for a
particular establishment. From my own experience (and I haven't had as
many very high end meals as I would like) a good waiter at a very
expensive restaurant is worth every penny of his tip. These are
professionals offering trained, practiced and skilled service...and
that should be recognized. They are absolutely doing as much work, and
probably more work than waiters in an Olive Garden. It's just not as
obvious, because they do it "invisibly" as to not interfere with your
dining experience...but the service is happening.
> How would you establish that this is a tipped position?
Far be it for me to be the one to establish whether a pilot/tour guide
is a tipped position or not. I have no idea how to establish that. I
was kind of hoping for a general majority concensus.
> I took a seaplane from Key West to the Dry Tortugas and the pilot had
> a sign in the plane saying that tips were welcome.
Was this a "tour" or a shuttle flight. For a flight (transportation
only) I wouldn't extend a tip. If it was a tour (sold as such,
narrated, something offered in addition to transportation) I'd have
tipped.
Lee
LeeNY
> That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. At least, I do tip my
> hairdresser - she seems to expect it even though she owns the shop.
I'm only going by what my mom taught me, way back when. To me, it just
makes sense NOT to tip an owner, even if I am receiving services from
them. They set the price for the service, and get the entire profit
from the fee, whereas an employee doesn't. Maybe it's a regional thing.
Like I said, it's what I was taught, when I became cognizant of these
things, and it's a practice in which I follow. Far as I can tell, no
owner has seemed particularly expectant of a tip, unless I've been
totally oblivious, which is definitely a possibility.
> Sometimes I think they don't deserve anything because they haven't
> done any work, have lied to me or have given out bogus information
> that I KNOW is false.
Well, then by all means, if you feel you didn't receive a service
that's deserving of a tip, you shouldn't offer one.
> If I am in a pricey restaurant (which I try to avoid), I don't order
> anything that I can't afford and that keeps the tip within what I
> think would be reasonable.
Hmm. I'd just as well skip the pricey meal if I wasn't able to avail
myself of the full experience of the menu.
> Actually, I think the servers in less expensive restaurants deserve a
> higher percentage tip than the ones in expensive restaurants do. They
> do just as much work.
I disagree here. Waiters at high end restaurants provide high end
service whereas waiters in diners provide diner-style service. There
definitely is a difference in service in high end restaurants (at least
there should be). Any rating system...Michelin, Zagats, etc. takes
service into consideration when formulating their rating for a
particular establishment. From my own experience (and I haven't had as
many very high end meals as I would like) a good waiter at a very
expensive restaurant is worth every penny of his tip. These are
professionals offering trained, practiced and skilled service...and
that should be recognized. They are absolutely doing as much work, and
probably more work than waiters in an Olive Garden. It's just not as
obvious, because they do it "invisibly" as to not interfere with your
dining experience...but the service is happening.
> How would you establish that this is a tipped position?
Far be it for me to be the one to establish whether a pilot/tour guide
is a tipped position or not. I have no idea how to establish that. I
was kind of hoping for a general majority concensus.
> I took a seaplane from Key West to the Dry Tortugas and the pilot had
> a sign in the plane saying that tips were welcome.
Was this a "tour" or a shuttle flight. For a flight (transportation
Uncle Peter
> >
> >What difference does it make if the person in question is the owner or
not?
> >Did they provide a service just as one of their employees?
> >
> >The guy that cuts my hair owns the barber shop. I give him a tip each
time
> >because he always takes his time and does a great job...
> >
> It used to be judged incorrect to tip a business owner because he or
> she gets all the profits from the business and can take his or her
> salary from there. They can set their fees and hours and decide what
> services to offer etc.
>
Barber shop rates are usually set by their trade union.
BTW, I hear Delta pilots may start accepting tips in the future.
Pete
Rosalie B.
>Rosalie B. wrote:
>
>> That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. At least, I do tip my
>> hairdresser - she seems to expect it even though she owns the shop.
>
>I'm only going by what my mom taught me, way back when. To me, it just
>makes sense NOT to tip an owner, even if I am receiving services from
>them. They set the price for the service, and get the entire profit
>from the fee, whereas an employee doesn't. Maybe it's a regional thing.
No you are right. But I have been going to this lady for 30 years
from the time when she didn't own the shop, and I moved with her when
she set up her shop, at which time there was an across the board no
tipping policy in her shop. Then when she changed from that an
allowed tipping again, I asked her whether it was appropriate to tip
her, and she said yes. The people that work in her shop set their
hours to a certain extent, so they are semi-in dependant contractors.
>Like I said, it's what I was taught, when I became cognizant of these
>things, and it's a practice in which I follow. Far as I can tell, no
>owner has seemed particularly expectant of a tip, unless I've been
>totally oblivious, which is definitely a possibility.
>
>> Sometimes I think they don't deserve anything because they haven't
>> done any work, have lied to me or have given out bogus information
>> that I KNOW is false.
>
>Well, then by all means, if you feel you didn't receive a service
>that's deserving of a tip, you shouldn't offer one.
>
>> If I am in a pricey restaurant (which I try to avoid), I don't order
>> anything that I can't afford and that keeps the tip within what I
>> think would be reasonable.
>
>Hmm. I'd just as well skip the pricey meal if I wasn't able to avail
>myself of the full experience of the menu.
>
I don't eat in a restaurant because I want the 'full experience'. I
want well cooked plain food in small quantities. I don't feel
deprived if I can't order the most expensive thing on the menu. OTOH
if I really have a hankering to try something that is middling pricey,
then I have no hesitation about doing it. I have been accused of not
knowing what good food is.
We don't drink at all, and I don't usually even drink soft drinks, so
that eliminates a lot of expense right there.
>> Actually, I think the servers in less expensive restaurants deserve a
>> higher percentage tip than the ones in expensive restaurants do. They
>> do just as much work.
>
>I disagree here. Waiters at high end restaurants provide high end
>service whereas waiters in diners provide diner-style service. There
>definitely is a difference in service in high end restaurants (at least
>there should be). Any rating system...Michelin, Zagats, etc. takes
>service into consideration when formulating their rating for a
>particular establishment. From my own experience (and I haven't had as
>many very high end meals as I would like) a good waiter at a very
>expensive restaurant is worth every penny of his tip. These are
A GOOD waiter is definitely worth a good tip. But I have had really
good waiters at less expensive places who have gone out of their way
to help us.
My daughter used to wait tables at breakfast in a fairly fancy
restaurant. She was restricted to working at breakfast because she
was under 21 and they served alcohol at the other meals. She rarely
got anything much in the way of a tip. Tipping a percentage for
breakfast (at least back then in the 70s) rarely was more than about
$1.00
>professionals offering trained, practiced and skilled service...and
>that should be recognized. They are absolutely doing as much work, and
>probably more work than waiters in an Olive Garden. It's just not as
>obvious, because they do it "invisibly" as to not interfere with your
>dining experience...but the service is happening.
>
>> How would you establish that this is a tipped position?
>
>Far be it for me to be the one to establish whether a pilot/tour guide
>is a tipped position or not. I have no idea how to establish that. I
>was kind of hoping for a general majority concensus.
>
>> I took a seaplane from Key West to the Dry Tortugas and the pilot had
>> a sign in the plane saying that tips were welcome.
>
>Was this a "tour" or a shuttle flight. For a flight (transportation
>only) I wouldn't extend a tip. If it was a tour (sold as such,
>narrated, something offered in addition to transportation) I'd have
>tipped.
>
>Lee
grandma Rosalie
Charles
LeeNY <lee...@campmor.com> wrote:
> I'm only going by what my mom taught me, way back when. To me, it just
> makes sense NOT to tip an owner, even if I am receiving services from
> them. They set the price for the service, and get the entire profit
> from the fee, whereas an employee doesn't. Maybe it's a regional thing.
> Like I said, it's what I was taught, when I became cognizant of these
> things, and it's a practice in which I follow. Far as I can tell, no
> owner has seemed particularly expectant of a tip, unless I've been
> totally oblivious, which is definitely a possibility.
That is formalistic. If it is a barber or a stylist at a beauty salon
who cuts or does your hair you should tip them regardless of whether
they are the owner. I would do the same with a tour guide who was
self-employed. A helicopter pilot, if it is a tour I would tip. If it
were just transportation, I would not.
--
Charles