Welcome back from Freedom of the Seas
MrTrumpet
have not been many postings about cruising lately - some folks blaming
the cruise lines for not anticipating and saving some drunk kid who
fell overboard, and a lot of postings from some wierd guy with too much
time on his hands who seems to have a unique life counting other
people's postings and complaining.
How was Freedom? Did you like the ship? Would you recommend it vs
Voyager class ships, or was it about the same?
Hey George Leppla - were you on that travel agent promo trip too? I
have missed your posts this week also. I look forward to hearing what
you guys thought about it. Thanks.
Earl Colby Pottinger
Pictures, I want still more pictures :)
Earl Colby Pottinger
--
<Cruising, building a Catamaran, Rebuilding Cabin, New Peroxide Still Design,
Writting SF, Programming FOSS - What happened to the time?>
TEP
> Pictures, I want still more pictures :)
>
Earl Colby Pottinger
> > Pictures, I want still more pictures :)
> >
> Go to http://www.freedomoftheseas.com/ and start the show.
Thank you. The site still however has just a few pictures unless I missed a
slide show somewhere? Still it was interesting to get all the stateroom
pictures, so thanks again.
no e-mail
> "MrTrumpet" <RJQ...@AOL.COM> :
>
>> Welcome back, Ray. Missed your postings last week. Seems like there
>
> Pictures, I want still more pictures :)
>
> Earl Colby Pottinger
>
Did you not see the ones at ray's website?
Earl Colby Pottinger
No! I missed the message saying they were up? I will go right now. Thank
you as well.
Earl Colby Pottinger
What am I doing wrong. I could only find two exterior shots there.
Sue and Kevin Mullen
Earl Colby Pottinger wrote:
>> no e-mail <noe...@invalid.invalid> :
>>Did you not see the ones at ray's website?
> What am I doing wrong. I could only find two exterior shots there.
Nothing wrong, as far as I have seen those are the only two pictures
and they are from before Ray sailed the Freedom.
sue - also waiting for more pictures!
newbie
> Welcome back, Ray. Missed your postings last week. Seems like there
> have not been many postings about cruising lately - some folks blaming
> the cruise lines for not anticipating and saving some drunk kid who
> fell overboard, and a lot of postings from some wierd guy with too much
> time on his hands who seems to have a unique life counting other
> people's postings and complaining.
>
> How was Freedom? Did you like the ship? Would you recommend it vs
> Voyager class ships, or was it about the same?
Does anyone recall Ray talked about any his cruises?
Reef Fish
Even after repeating prompting from his loyal fans, he STILL hasn't
written a word about his cruise.
For the time it takes him to write up a half-decent cruise report, he
could have posted a dozen of his ADs, "Hi Everyone, ... I received
this press release ... ".
-- Bob.
Joseph Coulter
news:4dgmngF...@individual.net:
I will be back a week from tomorrow, if you can wait!
--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/
Reef Fish
Joseph Coulter wrote:
> Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:4dgmngF...@individual.net:
>
> >
> >
> > Earl Colby Pottinger wrote:
> >
> >>> no e-mail <noe...@invalid.invalid> :
> >
> >>>Did you not see the ones at ray's website?
> >
> >> What am I doing wrong. I could only find two exterior shots there.
> >
> > Nothing wrong, as far as I have seen those are the only two pictures
> > and they are from before Ray sailed the Freedom.
> >
> > sue - also waiting for more pictures!
Sue, you can HOLD YOUR BREATH. I am sure Ray will come to
rescue one of his favorite supporters when you pass out.
>
> I will be back a week from tomorrow, if you can wait!
> --
> Joseph Coulter
This being one of the very few cruises Ray Goldenberg has ever taken,
and many of his fans showed interest in reading his "trip report",
don't
you think that's a pretty indiction that Ray is interested in putting
out
ADs for his webpage -- of obselete pictures about the Freedom,
while had had already posted ADs of the same style,
"Hi Everyone,
I have received this press release ..."
and on with his BILL BOARD of his Travel Agency.
When are you people who are long-time readers of this newsgroup
wise up to Ray's continuing SCAM?
He is NOT interested in an cruise discussion.
He is NOT interested in what you would like to read.
He is interested in, ONE, and ONLY ONE, activity, placing
repetitive (slightly different excuses of press releases) ADs that
are against USENET and newsgroups RULES. <see my
posting on the subject of USENET rules>.
-- Bob.
Sue and Kevin Mullen
Joseph Coulter wrote:
> Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:4dgmngF...@individual.net:
>
>
>>
>>Earl Colby Pottinger wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>no e-mail <noe...@invalid.invalid> :
>>
>>>>Did you not see the ones at ray's website?
>>
>>>What am I doing wrong. I could only find two exterior shots there.
>>
>>Nothing wrong, as far as I have seen those are the only two pictures
>>and they are from before Ray sailed the Freedom.
>>
>>sue - also waiting for more pictures!
>
>
> I will be back a week from tomorrow, if you can wait!
Do I have a choice other then waiting?? If you can, please get some
pictures of the hot tubs that stick out over the water.
sue
Reef Fish
Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:
> Joseph Coulter wrote:
> > Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in
> >>sue - also waiting for more pictures!
> >
> >
> > I will be back a week from tomorrow, if you can wait!
>
>
> sue
Of course you have a choice! Why don't you respond to one of
Ray's ADs he posted this morning, and ask him why he is not
posting any new pictures of posting a trip report?
-- Bob.
Joseph Coulter
Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in
news:4dh9haF...@individual.net:
Hot tubs it is, but mind you this is a travel agent cruise, not a lot of
beautiful people (professional models and such) so WYSIWYG!
Reef Fish
Joseph Coulter wrote:
> [posted and mailed]
>
> Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:4dh9haF...@individual.net:
>
> > Joseph Coulter wrote:
> >> Sue and Kevin Mullen <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote in
> >>>>>no e-mail <noe...@invalid.invalid> :
< Ongoing discussion snipped >
> >
> Hot tubs it is, but mind you this is a travel agent cruise, not a lot of
> beautiful people (professional models and such) so WYSIWYG!
> --
> Joseph Coulter
> Cruises and Vacations
> http://www.josephcoulter.com/
Mr. Coulter is a moderately frequent poster in rec.travel.cruises,
rec.travel.air, and rec.travel.europe.
There is little doubt that he is a Travel Agent, as indicated in the
sig at the end of his posts.
However, he engages in regular posting DISCUSSIONS with readers
of newsgroups without being blatent or obtusive about his mild form
of advertising, as John Sisker did for a few days when I rated John's
style a "B".
For the same reason, I give Mr. Joseph Coulter my Grade of "B",
based on his non-violation of USENET rules on advertising, or the
rules of the RTC charter; as well as my personal opinion about his
contribution to the Travel discussion groups on his INFO and
participation.
-- Bob.
Ray Goldenberg
<kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Nothing wrong, as far as I have seen those are the only two pictures
>and they are from before Ray sailed the Freedom.
Hi Sue, (private)
I am sorry but I had a problem with my camera. I have photos that I
would be glad to send you. The hot tub photos were lost on the card
that the camera corrupted. So sorry.
Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
--
Reef Fish
Ray Goldenberg wrote:
> On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:06:34 -0400, Sue and Kevin Mullen
> <kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Nothing wrong, as far as I have seen those are the only two pictures
> >and they are from before Ray sailed the Freedom.
Ray has finally spoken!
>
> Hi Sue, (private)
If that's meant to be "(private)", why did you POST it? Just to get
another Ad in?
Many follow-ups to the thread are, for the most part, addressed to
particular poster's PUBLIC posts. As such, the follow-up comments
are PUBLIC. If you want it to be "private", send it to Sue's private
email address.
-- Bob.
Sue and Kevin Mullen
Ray Goldenberg wrote:
> Hi Sue, (private)
>
> I am sorry but I had a problem with my camera. I have photos that I
> would be glad to send you. The hot tub photos were lost on the card
> that the camera corrupted. So sorry.
Camera problems can be a pain, BTDT myself. I would love to see any
pictures you have, my posting address is real.lol
sue
TEP
If you can, please get some
> pictures of the hot tubs that stick out over the water.
For now go to http://www.cruisenewsdaily.com/s-rfreedom1-b.jpg
Joseph Coulter
nZ4p...@comcast.com:
> http://www.cruisenewsdaily.com/s-rfreedom1-b.jpg
Will try to get that couple to model for me ;-) somehow I doubt she will
look as good in that suit in real life.
Sue and Kevin Mullen
Thanks, I have seen this already.
sue
George Leppla
"MrTrumpet" <RJQ...@AOL.COM> wrote
> Hey George Leppla - were you on that travel agent promo trip too? I
> have missed your posts this week also. I look forward to hearing what
> you guys thought about it. Thanks.
Nope... I was invited but I had planned a group cruise on the Caribbean
Princess and was on that one instead. I'll try to find some time to write a
review of the Caribbean Princess... the short story is that I liked the ship
very much! It was an excellent cruise.
--
George Leppla http://www.countryside-travel.com
October 29, 2006 - SLEAZY 4! http://cruisemaster.com/sleazy4.htm
February 10, 2007 - Valentine's Group - http://cruisemaster.com/grandeur.htm
April 29, 2007 GGC2007 http://cruisemaster.com/pride.htm
Reef Fish
George Leppla wrote:
> "MrTrumpet" <RJQ...@AOL.COM> wrote
>
> > Hey George Leppla - were you on that travel agent promo trip too?
Never mind. But Ray GoldenAd sure was.
After 5 days of welcome back by his group of loyal supporters for
a TRIP REPORT, Ray, has posted DOZENS of ADs, but ...
NO REPORT, long or short.
That's the King of Ads and Spams or RTC, who earned a solid
Grade of "F" for his advertising in this group.
I'll grade George Leppla later. Right now I am only 5 hours from
a long weekend trip to Lost Wages, to take advantage of a free
entry (for my good looks) to the $100,000 Blackjack Tournament
at the Hilton there this weekend.
-- Bob.
George Leppla
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote
> I'll grade George Leppla later.
What makes you think you are qualified to "grade" me or that I remotely care
about your latest juvenile project?
But... I do agree with the following statement that you posted and I find it
hilarious that you waited until I was out of town before you finally
answered the question that I had asked you point blank many times:
> Strictly speaking, except for a new newsgroups that FORBIDS the
> placement of ANY ad, not even once, there is no rule AGAINST the
> placement of an AD in a newsgroup.
Thank you for finally admitting that the "Usenet rules" you keep ranting
about are nothing more than a figment of your imagination. THAT part of
that post earns you an A+ because it isn't often that you admit that you
were wrong.
"...there is no rule AGAINST the placement of an AD in a newsgroup." Thank
you, Bob.
Reef Fish
George Leppla wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote
>
> > I'll grade George Leppla later.
>
>
> What makes you think you are qualified to "grade" me or that I remotely care
> about your latest juvenile project?
Anyone is qualified to grade ANYONE. It's the credibility of the
GRADER
that counts, just as you lack credibility in your grading of Ray
Goldenberg
as he definitely earned his grade of "F" from me.
>
> But... I do agree with the following statement that you posted and I find it
> hilarious that you waited until I was out of town before you finally
> answered the question that I had asked you point blank many times:
Why would I care whether you're out of town or not? You are quoting
my statement out of context of course.
>
> > Strictly speaking, except for a new newsgroups that FORBIDS the
> > placement of ANY ad, not even once, there is no rule AGAINST the
> > placement of an AD in a newsgroup.
and then I proceeded to mention the RULES that included the placement
of an Ad just ONCE, and ONLY ONCE. In addition to all the others
rules that made Ray what I said he is, an "F" grade earner in the STYLE
of Advertisers in rec.travel.cruises.
> Thank you for finally admitting that the "Usenet rules" you keep ranting
> about are nothing more than a figment of your imagination. THAT part of
> that post earns you an A+ because it isn't often that you admit that you
> were wrong.
That has ALWAYS been known among the Usenet Guidelines that
people have honored in ALL newsgroups except this one, thoroughly
corrupted by Ray and his Travel-Agent Gang.
>
> "...there is no rule AGAINST the placement of an AD in a newsgroup." Thank
> you, Bob.
Yes, but there are PLENTY of rules and Guidelines that make some
Advertisers that earn grades of "F" and "F-", as well as the passing
grades.
>
> --
> George Leppla http://www.countryside-travel.com
You grade will come, in time. Right now, it looks like somewhere
between
a "C" and a "D", but you keep on DISTORTING my posts, conceal all
the pertinent facts about ADs, and quoting me out of context, you may
earn a grade of "F" yet.
BTW, is the reason you're posting this because you haven't seen a post
of mine in a couple of days and figured I am out of town so you can
fire your sniping shot of COMPLETE DISTORTION?
Hate to tell you, Goerge.
I AM out of town. It's a nice day out in Las Vegas, and I am about to
go
out before it gets hot.
You are such a pitiful Travel Agent to constantly distort MY posts,
instead of having anything of substance to back up yours.
-- Bob.
George Leppla
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote
> Anyone is qualified to grade ANYONE. It's the credibility of the
> GRADER
> that counts,
And if people assign no credibility to your grade, it is meaningless. You
might want to take a look around, Bob.... people aren't exaclty lining up to
support you.
> You are quoting
> my statement out of context of course.
Did you not write the following? This is the complete paragraph:
"Strictly speaking, except for a new newsgroups that FORBIDS the
placement of ANY ad, not even once, there is no rule AGAINST the
placement of an AD in a newsgroup."
> You are such a pitiful Travel Agent to constantly distort MY posts,
> instead of having anything of substance to back up yours.
Sorry Bob, but I quoted you word for word and in context. It may seem like
a distortion to you since you now seem to be contradicting yourself. For
weeks you have been screaming about "RULES".... now you admit there are no
such rules. It must be hard keeping your story straight when you do a 180
degree turn like that.
--
George Leppla http://www.countryside-travel.com
October 29, 2006 - SLEAZY 4! http://cruisemaster.com/sleazy4.htm
Reef Fish
George Leppla wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote
>
>
> > my statement out of context of course.
>
> Did you not write the following? This is the complete paragraph:
>
> "Strictly speaking, except for a new newsgroups that FORBIDS the
> placement of ANY ad, not even once, there is no rule AGAINST the
> placement of an AD in a newsgroup."
That's EXACTLY WHY it's out of context, because it is the first
paragraph of a LONG post: http://tinyurl.com/pyeew or
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.travel.cruises/msg/106718c8bb2f5bb7?hl=en&
which included what's below that clearly made cited paragraph OUT
CONTEXT -- something only an unethical cretin George Leppla would do"
RULE> it is tolerated if it is infrequent, informative, and low-hype.
RF> The last line is about universally accepted as can be said.
RF> The KEYWORD is: INFREQUENT.
RF> Just HOW infrequent?
RF> You'll find this in MANY webpage concerning what is ALLOWED in
RF> placing ADs in usenet newsgroups:
RF> ONE TIME, if the AD is relevant to the interest of the newsgroup.
George Leppla is neither blind nor reads that badly. It was WILFUL
distortion and misrepresentation of what I posted.
If it were tolerated why were there all the passing grades in that
post?
"A+" for Susette See http://tinyurl.com/f3dat
"B" for the John Sisker of May 6. See: http://tinyurl.com/ghbvr
"C" for Cruise_Discounter See: http://tinyurl.com/nhyo5
"D" for Media See: http://tinyurl.com/ovfdj
for the current John Sisker
"F" for Ray Goldenberg
"F-" for"Jim" <jim_buttacav...@sbcglobal.net>
See: http://tinyurl.com/fgkkv
"F-" for Christine-Reci...@hotmail.com
See: http://tinyurl.com/j8ksr
> > You are such a pitiful Travel Agent to constantly distort MY posts,
> > instead of having anything of substance to back up yours.
>
>
> Sorry Bob, but I quoted you word for word and in context.
You MORON. In what context? The context of what you snipped
that was OPPOSITE to what you quoted, and what you snipped
were the actual RULES?
> George Leppla http://www.countryside-travel.com
Your time will come soon enough. Don't hold your breath for a grade
higher than a "D".
-- Bob.
George Leppla
"Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote
Bob, on 5/5/06 in two separate posts, you wrote:
> He is in VIOLATION of USENET Guidelines and rules.
>But that's not the same of ignoring VIOLATIONS of USENET rules
>and Guidelines.
I asked you numerous times to supply a link to these "rules"... and you
refused to reply. Then, when I was out of town on a cruise, you posted the
following (probably hoping that I wouldn't see you doing a 180 degree change
in position):
> Strictly speaking, except for a new newsgroups that FORBIDS the
> placement of ANY ad, not even once, there is no rule AGAINST the
> placement of an AD in a newsgroup.
You can cry that I am quoting you out of context all you want, but the fact
remains that you have continually claimed that people were violating the
"rules", then you had to back-track, state that THERE ARE NO RULES, only
guidelines. There is no misrepresentation.... you have been hoisted on your
own petard.
Reef Fish
George Leppla wrote:
> "Reef Fish" <Large_Nass...@Yahoo.com> wrote
>
> Bob, on 5/5/06 in two separate posts, you wrote:
>
> > He is in VIOLATION of USENET Guidelines and rules.
That's correct. And I had already explained why.
Your game is getting pretty OLD and boring. Just re-read what you
missed:
> You can cry that I am quoting you out of context all you want,
You are the only one crying and whining, and trying to re-write
history,
by obfuscation and misrepresentation! Just READ the URL above,
OR read thr URL in the subject line. Take your pick!
> --
> George Leppla http://www.countryside-travel.com
>
You not-so-clever trick might fool someone of your own intelligence
calibre -- a MORON (below 80 IQ). or below.
Unfortunately, most of the readers (except the Ray GoldenAd Gang)
have average or above-average IQ, and nobody is fallen for your drivel.
You are REALLY, REALLY DUMB!
-- Bob.