Suggestion for Newsgroup
Robert Strauss
messages on this newsgroup much more productive.
First, put your response at the top of the message rather than at the
bottom. Doesn't everyone get tired of scrolling through the same message
numerous times in order to get to the responses.
Secondly, we all know what the original message said, so why repeat it in
its entirety. At least truncate it if you can't take the effort to put your
response at the top.
Some message groupings have up to 50 responses. Imagine the time saved if we
didn't have to read the original posting 50 times to see the responses.
--
Robert Strauss: The Woodlands, TX
Mike Quint
>its entirety. At least truncate it if you can't take the effort to put your
>response at the top.
>
>Robert Strauss: The Woodlands, TX
>
Robert
Not all news servers are the same, on compuserve (which I use) once the
original message is read, and unless I opt to keep it as unread, it is gone.
Some people reply several days later and by then I may have forgotten the
original message. It would be pretty boring and puzzling just to read
four or five times. . . .
Been there and I disagree . . . . .
best deal out there. . . . .
Carnival Sensation . . . . .
Mike Quint
Doing winter in New England could be worst.
Beth Peace
> I have a couple of suggestions that would make reading responses to
> messages on this newsgroup much more productive.
This has been covered in every newsgroup known to man ;-).
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7ewijnands/nnq/nquote.html
Most people here follow the convention of bottom posting. It'd be nice if
people were more selective about snipping, though!
Beth
Thumper
Agreed. Bottom posting keeps the flow going. Especially if you are
not following a thread every day. Also in response to a long post it
makes sense to answer each point directly after that point.
Thumper
Kevin and Sue Mullen
Beth Peace wrote:
>
It'd be nice if
> people were more selective about snipping, though!
You mean like this(grin). I have also thought it would be nice if people
would do a little snipping. Top or bottom posting is not a biggie to me,
but a little snipping would make life much easier.
sue
Beth Peace
Yup. Another thing. I use Outlook Express, generally frowned upon by geeks,
but it suits me. I was bothered by its quoting conventions (especially how it
puts spaces at the top that have to be taken out), but someone pointed me to
OE-QuoteFix (http://jump.to/oe-quotefix). It's a freebie, but it does a great
job.
Island Gal
wrote:
> It's senseless to try to police
>everyone on Usenet.
Or anyONE for that matter.
>In other words, you've taken on a losing battle. Don't sweat the
>small stuff.
Robert means well but it is a dead end road.
Island Gal
<kjmu...@comcast.net> wrote:
>....but a little snipping would make life much easier.
A little off around the eyelids, straighten up that waddle..........
EileenMcDonald
puts spaces at the top that have to be taken out), but someone pointed me to
OE-QuoteFix (http://jump.to/oe-quotefix). It's a freebie, but it does a
great
job.
Nifty little tool, Beth. But it's loaded with spyware. Keep the tool, get
rid of the spyware by going to this site http://www.lavasoftusa.com and
downloading Ad-Aware 5.83. Another free, nifty little tool.
Tom & Linda
belongs to the person who posted before you.
--Tom
Beth Peace
> Your tool doesn't work. Readers can't tell which is your text and
> which belongs to the person who posted before you.
>
> --Tom
It doesn't look like Eileen was using Quote Fix since the quotes weren't
"fixed". It confused me for a minute there too.
Beth
Mason Barge
wrote:
>This has been covered in every newsgroup known to man ;-).
>
>http://www.xs4all.nl/%7ewijnands/nnq/nquote.html
>
>Most people here follow the convention of bottom posting. It'd be nice if
>people were more selective about snipping, though!
Let me just say "me too" to Beth's posts. There are somewhat more serious
newsgroups where you will be chided for top-posting, not snipping, etc. Of
course, the greatest hazard is that people are less likely to read or understand
you if you don't follow the conventions.
--
"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
- Abraham Lincoln
Robert Strauss
have known. Once I was a on a jury and became the jury foreman. I thought it
would be cut and dry -- everyone would agree with me and we would be out of
there in no time. Silly me. 6 people -- 6 different opinions -- some so
divergent it was like we were on a different planet.
My newsreader puts the reply at the top. Maybe that's why I like it.
All the best, Robert
"Robert Strauss" <rstr...@io.com> wrote in message
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Miriam Caulk
> Let me just say "me too" to Beth's posts. There are somewhat more serious
> newsgroups where you will be chided for top-posting, not snipping, etc.
By what stretch of anyone's imagination can any newsgroup on Usenet be considered "serious"?
MC
Beth Peace
Funny, I run Ad-Aware, but to my knowledge it's never found anything associated
with QuoteFix (or anything but ad cookies). I'm curious, what did it find?
Beth
Beth Peace
> My newsreader puts the reply at the top. Maybe that's why I like it.
Congrats - you have been assimilated by Microsoft. Don't worry, it's not fatal
;-).
Beth
Jochen Lippert
Sorry to pick your post as an example (and for the fullquote :)), but
there is something that irritates me more than top-posting or
fullquotes, and that is when I can't see what part of the text is the
quote. The two paragraphs above look like they are written by the same
person, because the quotation symbols are missing in the bottom part.
Please turn them on, you will do anyone with a text based newsreader a
big favour.
Jochen Lippert
--
No smilies were harmed in the making of this message ;)
Thumper
wrote:
What reader is that? Don't you decide where to type the reply?
Thumper
Dick Goldhaber
I guess six years of customer service answering e-mail messages has made me
a "top loader".
I use Outlook Express because I haven't figured out how to acquire
newsgroups using my e-mail program of choice, Calypso.
I am not a regular. I involve myself whenever we have a cruise scheduled,
and I guess that because so many of our customers do not bother to even send
back the original message, I am immune to where you write your answer.
Dick Goldhaber in Cherry Hill, NJ
video...@comcast.net
"Thumper" <jayl...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Mason Barge
wrote:
>Robert Strauss wrote:
Resistance is futile.
Linsifer
But, like Karen, I don't always reply in the same manner sometimes. I also read
this in the form of an AOL message board. Only thing is, I can't change fonts
or color.
Lindsay
Robert Strauss
Haven't had a problem with it, and as I said, it puts my response on top
without any extra effort, which is, in my opinion, the best approach. I did
check my Preferences to see if I had a choice in the matter, but it doesn't
look like I do, except to change it manually.
Regards, Robert
from wet and rainy Houston, TX
"Thumper" <jayl...@attbi.com> wrote in message
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Island Gal
<TKAN...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Your tool doesn't work.
>--Tommie
From an expert........
Island Gal
wrote:
>By what stretch of anyone's imagination can any newsgroup on Usenet be considered "serious"?
>MC
lol.
No kidding.
Island Gal
wrote:
>Once again I find out how many different opinions that people have. I should
>have known. Once I was a on a jury and became the jury foreman. I thought it
>would be cut and dry -- everyone would agree with me and we would be out of
>there in no time. Silly me. 6 people -- 6 different opinions -- some so
>divergent it was like we were on a different planet.
Eye of the Beholder, Robert. Why are you so surprised.
Carnival food sux/is great!
RCCI is low/hi class
Celebrity is high/low class.
Freestyle cruising is a Godsend/from the Devil.
Ad infinitum.
Mason Barge
There are quite a few of them, although even those attract trolls.
Jos Flachs
wrote:
>First, put your response at the top of the message rather than at the
>bottom. Doesn't everyone get tired of scrolling through the same message
>numerous times in order to get to the responses.
Like most, I read from top to bottom. Replying below makes good sense.
In some groups you'd be repremanded for top posting.
>Secondly, we all know what the original message said, so why repeat it in
>its entirety. At least truncate it if you can't take the effort to put your
>response at the top.
I wish... Far too many quote +450 lines and only add a 'I concur' :-(
Not in here, I'm happy to say.
--
Jos Flachs
World Cruise Travel
Bangkok, Thailand
Jos Flachs
<video...@comcast.net> wrote:
>I use Outlook Express because I haven't figured out how to acquire
>newsgroups using my e-mail program of choice, Calypso.
Calypso? I heard about it, but not much. Any good?
Try Free Agent (free), a very good newsreader.
Mason Barge
>On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 15:24:34 -0500, "Dick Goldhaber"
><video...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>I use Outlook Express because I haven't figured out how to acquire
>>newsgroups using my e-mail program of choice, Calypso.
>Calypso? I heard about it, but not much. Any good?
>
>Try Free Agent (free), a very good newsreader.
I agree wholeheartedly -- it's a quick download from the Forte website. Or
break down and spend the $30 for the advanced Forte Agent, which I eventually
did after using Free Agent for a few months.
Island Gal
<masonbar...@aol.com> wrote:
>>Try Free Agent (free), a very good newsreader.
>
>I agree wholeheartedly -- it's a quick download from the Forte website. Or
>break down and spend the $30 for the advanced Forte Agent, which I eventually
>did after using Free Agent for a few months.
Watching Mark Cam, it looks like 2.0 is light years away.
Jos Flachs
wrote:
>I'm another fan of Agent news readers. First, Free Agent, then an
>inexpensive upgrade to Forte Agent.
For reading news, use a news reader.
For reading mail, a mail client.
For catching the latest virus... Lookout & Lookout Express ;-)
--
Jos Flachs
Bangkok, Thailand: wcruise[shift2]ksc15.th.com
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