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Ray Goldenberg

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Dec 20, 2000, 9:17:48 AM12/20/00
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Hi Everyone,

As I reported a few months ago, the Britanis sunk 50 miles from Cape
Town. She was launched in 1932 by the Matson Line. She was built in
the US by Bethlehem Shipbuilders. Our good friend from the Liners
List, Ian Shiffman was on the scene when she sunk. He has photos
which can be viewed at:
http://home.worldonline.co.za/~snai/brit-sinking.html

She had been known as the Monterey, Matsonia, Lurline, and Britanis
until she was taken out of service by Chandris in 1996. She was towed
from Tampa Florida this past July when plans to make her into a
floating San Francisco restaurant fell apart. For anyone that would
like to read the history and see photos of this lost treasure, please
visit the excellent web page that photographer Peter Knego authors. It
is available at:
http://www.maritimematters.com/britanis.html

Best regards,
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Stephen Sykes

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Dec 20, 2000, 9:55:16 AM12/20/00
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OhMyGawd!.

What dramatic pictures. Sure must have been a sight in person. It's a wonder
she moved at all, with all the barnacles on her hull.

I only came across the "Britanis" once. That was off the San Blas Islands
while I was sailing upon the "Regent Sun".

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Dec 20, 2000, 11:26:55 AM12/20/00
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>Subject: Britanis Sinking Photos!

Ray, thanks for posting the link to the photos.

It brought back many wonderful memories, albeit under depressing circumstances.

Babette

John & Lola

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Dec 20, 2000, 2:39:21 PM12/20/00
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Ray,

Wow, what dramatic photos. Thanks for the link.

Lola in Hamilton

Carole Dunham

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Dec 20, 2000, 3:12:03 PM12/20/00
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Very dramatic photos Ray. I have to say though that the worst cruise of my
life was on that ship. I really think the sea claiming her own is a better
way than going to the scrappers, or is that just a romanticised view of the
whole thing?

Carole
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Brenda

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Dec 20, 2000, 5:04:39 PM12/20/00
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I agree Carole! Much better to have her as luxury fish condo & maybe a
big part in a movie when that sub goes looking for another "Titanic"
than a pil of scrap metal awaiting melt down to turn into 125
Volkswagons.......


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John Szeto

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Dec 20, 2000, 6:08:42 PM12/20/00
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Hi,

Thanks for the link dramatic pictures.

By any chance, do you know the size of the ship in tonnage?

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George in NY

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Dec 20, 2000, 7:48:05 PM12/20/00
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Ray,

Thanks for the link, what sad photos though :(

George in NY

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Stephen Sykes

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Dec 20, 2000, 8:28:09 PM12/20/00
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John,

As written in the "Pictorial Encyclopedia of Ocean Liners, 1860-1994" by
William H. Miller Jr.

I paraphrase: She was built in 1932. 18,018 gross tons; 632 feet long; 79
feet wide. Built by Bethlehem Steel Corp., Quincy, Mass. for the Matson Line
(US Flag)

Became a full time cruise ship in 1975.

Steve in FLL


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In article John Szeto <webm...@cruisereview.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the link dramatic pictures.
>
> By any chance, do you know the size of the ship in tonnage?
>
>

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dale stevens

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Dec 20, 2000, 8:58:37 PM12/20/00
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One summer day in 1991 I and my family had boarded Seabreeze (another sad story)
in Miami. Docked immediately in front was Britannis, then the oldest cruise
ship afloat. Passing by on the way to the turning basin was Ecstacy, then the
newest cruise ship afloat. I managed to get a photo of the old and the new.

Dale

Sue Whitfield

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Dec 20, 2000, 9:42:38 PM12/20/00
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Ray thanks so much for those photos- The Brittanis was my first cruise 16
1/2 years ago- I still keep in touch with folks I met onboard her. I was 7
months Pregnant with my daughter and thought what a nice way to vacation
before giving birth- WOW we were in a storm and gee most folks were at the
Medic!
I did find think that the baby liked all the rocking... When I came off of
that ship I said I HATE CRUISING and NEVER want to do that again.. and here
I am...3 cruises a year later.... When I think back on the Chandris Cruise
Line "Brittanis" There are some great memories! we had some real fun on
there! Conga Lines through the ship Fun dance games where you change
partners, Masquerade party where you made costumes from things that they
gave you, and some were VERY creative! IT was so much fun, and the Food!
BEST I EVER have had yet on a cruise! the Prawns to die for... Everything
was wonderful.... Remember the Dining room being all the way down on the
ship... WE went to Bermuda on her and had alot of fun although it was a old
looking ship even then in 84!

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Dec 21, 2000, 3:00:14 AM12/21/00
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 06:17:48 -0800, Ray Goldenberg
<r...@lighthousetravel.com> wrote:

>
>As I reported a few months ago, the Britanis sunk 50 miles from Cape
>Town. She was launched in 1932 by the Matson Line. She was built in
>the US by Bethlehem Shipbuilders. Our good friend from the Liners
>List, Ian Shiffman was on the scene when she sunk. He has photos
>which can be viewed at:
>http://home.worldonline.co.za/~snai/brit-sinking.html

How incredibly sad I felt looking at those photos. The first cruise
my wife and I ever took was in the early 90's on the Britanis. She
certainly wasn't the biggest or fanciest ship, but there was something
elegant about her. She is gone, but the memories she gave us will
live on.

Dan

Raoul Fiebig

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Dec 21, 2000, 7:04:41 AM12/21/00
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:08:42 -0800, John Szeto <webm...@cruisereview.net>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Thanks for the link dramatic pictures.
>
>By any chance, do you know the size of the ship in tonnage?
>

Hi John!

According to Arnold Kludas, her tonnage was:

1932: 18,017 GRT (old system)
1957: 18,655 GRT (old system)
1986: 15,412 GRT (old system)
1993: 24,346 GT (new system)

Hope this helps!


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Kenneth Crudup

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Dec 21, 2000, 9:39:57 AM12/21/00
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In article <20001221070441...@ng-fg1.aol.com>,
losxl...@aol.com.de (Raoul Fiebig) says:

>According to Arnold Kludas, her tonnage was:

>1932: 18,017 GRT (old system)
>1957: 18,655 GRT (old system)
>1986: 15,412 GRT (old system)
>1993: 24,346 GT (new system)

I can understand a jump in numbers between '86 and '93 'cause there
was a systems change. How do you explain the big changes from '57
to '86, though?

-Kenny

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Terry Steinford

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Dec 21, 2000, 2:20:53 PM12/21/00
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Change in flag. Some countries are famous for lower tonnage. I have seen
10 to 20% differences with no physical change to the ship.

: >According to Arnold Kludas, her tonnage was:

Raoul Fiebig

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Dec 21, 2000, 5:18:29 PM12/21/00
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Hi Terry!

Yes, that's the reason. There was a change of flag from Greece to Panama in the
early 80s.

The "SeaWind Crown" is another good example:

1961: 23,306 GRT (old system)
1988: 16,063 GRT (old system)
1993: 23,145 GT (new system)

She has sailed under Panama flag since - 1988.

Dan Birchall

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Dec 23, 2000, 4:34:31 AM12/23/00
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Ray Goldenberg <r...@lighthousetravel.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> As I reported a few months ago, the Britanis sunk 50 miles from Cape
> Town... Our good friend from the Liners List, Ian Shiffman was on
> the scene when she sunk. He has photos which can be viewed at:
> http://home.worldonline.co.za/~snai/brit-sinking.html

Whooo-ee. That's one big artificial reef they're "installing" for
the fishies.

It's gotta be scary to be _on_ a ship listing that much.

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