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Cal Oland

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Sep 3, 2000, 4:55:53 PM9/3/00
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You Mr Chuck, have got to be *the* biggest jerk I have ever seen, Your constant
rants, pedantic warbling and juvenile whining are beyond anything else I have
ever seen.

If you keep this up, I'm going to report you to your ISP and your employer.

Get a life and grow up loser. I've never seen a group of adults collectively
act like the biggest brats I've ever seen.

Josh

Pat

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Sep 3, 2000, 5:36:56 PM9/3/00
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Those spam posts were not from Chuck. They are forgeries.

This is not Chuck, his ISP is Earthlink.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.13.138.120
X-Complaints-To: use...@teleline.es
X-Trace: telenews.teleline.es 968012328 216.13.138.120 (Sun, 03 Sep
2000 22:18:48 MET DST)
email to pat_dubois/at/hotmail/dot/com

c.lyman

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Sep 5, 2000, 5:32:33 AM9/5/00
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In article <20000905015133...@ng-fy1.aol.com>,
rdhd...@aol.com says...
> HOWEVER, as the *community* that the NG *should be*, we should ALL be willing
> to help ea other as the need arises. Therefore, those who have the expertise
> to do "header stuff" should be willing to help those who don't on occasion.
>
>
Well, that was basically how this all got started..one of the users
here was having forged posts posted in his name here and *some* people
here didn't know how to check the post to see if they were legit so they
accused him of sending them,not a good thing.

Forging someones name/address will get your account killed faster then
just about anything I know of.

RdhdNChrg

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Sep 5, 2000, 8:15:02 AM9/5/00
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>>
> Well, that was basically how this all got started..one of the users
>here was having forged posts posted in his name here and *some* people
>here didn't know how to check the post to see if they were legit so they
>accused him of sending them,not a good thing.
>
>Forging someones name/address will get your account killed faster then
>just about anything I know of

I understand -- I was watching. I was just referring to the fact that it had
diminished into a name callling contest -- with the usual AOL derogatories.
(Is that the word I want? Been up too many hrs)

Thanks tho -- it bears repeating that forging IDs is *not* a good thing, but it
does happen.

Chuck.K

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Sep 5, 2000, 2:00:32 PM9/5/00
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"c.lyman" wrote:
>
> Well, that was basically how this all got started..one of the users
> here was having forged posts posted in his name here and *some* people
> here didn't know how to check the post to see if they were legit so they
> accused him of sending them,not a good thing.
>
> Forging someones name/address will get your account killed faster then
> just about anything I know of.


I want to thank everyone from RTC who filed complaints with the ISP's of
the SPAMMER who targeted rtc using my e-mail address. Turns out it was
our old friend DENNIS HOY, returned again. And just as in all the other
times he's SPAMMED usenet, this time got him tossed off yet another
system. Unfortunately, there are plenty more for him to abuse, so he'll
almost certainly be back (and in the meantime, he'll continue to abuse
usenet and RTC through anonymous remailers like the COTSE system).
These asswipes are like the groundhog game we used to play as kids. You
swat one and another pops up! But you have to keep on swatting away.

Anyway, here is the letter I received from Starnet.

Subject: Network Abuse
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:30:12 -0500
From: Postmaster Kurek <Postm...@starnetinc.com>

Dear Sir:

This email is in reference to the NNTP postings that were found on
teleline.es news server. These attacks were logged @ 12:31 MET DST
(about
+2:00 GMT)

The abuser that sent out these emails has been banned now from our
network with help of the adminstrator of the news server. The MET DST
log from the Toronto dialup had to be converted to our logfiles to help
find the appropriate user. Once this was done it was easy to take the
person off-line.

The username was taken out of our system @ 9:03 AM CST on September
4th.
No more abuse should come from this system.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask in regards
to
this issue. Thank you for your time.

Regards,
-
Postmaster Kurek Postm...@starnetinc.com
StarNet Network Security Team
-


Chuck

to send mail, remove the nospam from : Chuck....@Bigfoot.com

OH NO, they've KILLED KENNY (those bastards)

chu...@-lynne-nissan-cotse.com

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Sep 5, 2000, 5:34:38 PM9/5/00
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Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> I want to thank everyone from RTC who filed complaints with the ISP's of
> the SPAMMER who targeted rtc using my e-mail address. Turns out it was
> our old friend DENNIS HOY, returned again. And just as in all the other
> times he's SPAMMED usenet, this time got him tossed off yet another
> system. Unfortunately, there are plenty more for him to abuse, so he'll
> almost certainly be back (and in the meantime, he'll continue to abuse
> usenet and RTC through anonymous remailers like the COTSE system).

Hey, Chuck. I read the following page:

http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm

and found the part about where you were demanding that COTSE deny access to
anyone trying to post under your name, chuck.k. Apparently, you OWN the handle
chuck.k--or so you think--and you consider it a FEDERAL OFFENSE for anyone else
to use chuck.k. That's why you actually CONTACTED THE FBI and not only told them
your tale of woe, but ASKED THEM TO KEEP YOU NOTIFIED of the details of their
"investigation".

I'm laughing so hard it HURTS.

Anyway, so what about COTSE and people posting things you don't like? Did you
find out about that silly little "free world" thing, where anyone can have the
name chuck.k? Man, I bet that was a BLOW to your PRIDE.

As far as abusing Usenet and RTC, you seem to own THAT particular behavior. Me,
I'm satisfied with abusing YOU.

Say, I haven't heard from your buddy Wess Maupin lately. You know,
plu...@cyberhighway.net--the Plumber himself. Funny thing--the moment his real
name came to light, he DISAPPEARED like a fucking COCKROACH RUNNING FROM THE
LIGHT. Because that's the only kind of defender you'll find, you and your TRASH.
Nothing but anonymous jerks who flee like crazy the moment their actual names are
released to the public. Because they know and understand the reality: that
defending you and your behavior is dangerous to their reputations.

So we're STILL WAITING for that lawsuit against COTSE. Where is it?


Chuck Rohlenbarf

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Sep 5, 2000, 7:26:04 PM9/5/00
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Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> farted and this slipped out
of his bum:
>
> I just got off the phone with the abuse techs at StarNet/MegaPop

sure you did. did you also call the FBI, ATF, INS, IRS, DOT, FTC, CIA,
DOG, CAT, PIG, KFC, CPU, VCR and CAR too?

> they've KILLED the account DENNIS HOY was using to FORGE my header
> information.

for some accurate information on who Dennis Hoy is, check out my .sig
file.

> posting from StarNet (through a user ID of:
>
> IFT...@UNME.com

for those who haven't had a first hand experience witnessing chuckie
cheesy's lackadaisical investigative skills, here's an excellent
example. he's gone off half-cocked again, making accusations before he's
done any research.

apparently, UNME.COM is owned by:

FuturePace Technologies (UNME3-DOM)
1990 N. Alma School Rd. #347
Chandler, AZ 85224
US

if anyone doubts me, check it out for yourself:

http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=unme.com

history repeats itself. this is the exact same mistake he made when he
first began accusing Dennis Hoy of being the owner of 25-88.COM!

> Needless to say, he's one slimy SPAMMING bastard.

counterpoint: perhaps you were the one who spammed the newsgroup using
an account other than your earthlink account because you knew earthlink
would toss you if you spammed using their network. you noticed the
backlash against you and decided to play along with those who gave you
the benefit of the doubt and speculated that perhaps you were forged.
now you are trying to blame Dennis Hoy for the whole incident. how
convenient.

by the way, do you own Discount TV & Satellite? was the information in
the spam correct? if so, how did anyone find all that information
without your assistance? it sure as hell has your fingerprints all over
it. if someone were to go so far as to risk their account to forge you
and spam a group, why would they advertise for your company and take the
chance that it could benefit you?

> So, in addition to complaints to the abuse departments at:
>
> ab...@popsite.net
> postm...@popsite.net
> ab...@teleline.es
> postm...@teleline.es
> ab...@unme.com
> postm...@unme.com
>
> One can forward their annoyance DIRECTLY to Dennis at:
> IFT...@UNME.com
> and as always at his WEBSITE
> postm...@25-88.com , where Dennis HOY is the owner!

erroneous information. check my .sig for the truth.

i think i'll go back into lurk mode again and silently watch you suffer.
apparently many of the participants here already have you figured out
without my assistance. life isn't much fun without the assistance of
your lemmings, is it?

> Chuck
>
> to send mail, remove the nospam from : chuc...@earthlink.net


>
> OH NO, they've KILLED KENNY (those bastards)


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ค Do ya dig my big friggin' .sig? ค
ค ================================================================ ค
ค The Official Chuck Kohlenberg FAQ -- Updated on: June 24, 2000 ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Who is Dennis Hoy? Proof that Chuck Kohlenberg is a buffoon! ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/who_is_Dennis_Hoy/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Visit Dennis Hoy's site -- it's funny as hell! ค
http://www.rentajerk.com/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค A Canadian discovers a method to beat the slots! ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/man_beats_slots/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Paramount Roulette System -- presented to piss off Chuck! ค
http://www.25-88.com/2828/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค "Couldn't get it up huh, Chuck?" - Max Goldman, Grumpy Old Men ค
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Chuck.K

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Sep 5, 2000, 7:33:39 PM9/5/00
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chuckk@-lynne-nissan-cotse.com wrote:
>
> Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > I want to thank everyone from RTC who filed complaints with the ISP's of
> > the SPAMMER who targeted rtc using my e-mail address. Turns out it was
> > our old friend DENNIS HOY, returned again. And just as in all the other
> > times he's SPAMMED usenet, this time got him tossed off yet another
> > system. Unfortunately, there are plenty more for him to abuse, so he'll
> > almost certainly be back (and in the meantime, he'll continue to abuse
> > usenet and RTC through anonymous remailers like the COTSE system).
>
> Hey, Chuck. I read the following page:

As promised, good old DENNIS HOY has returned and just as I said he
would, he's hiding behind the friendly anonymous folks at COTSE!

If anyone wishes to voice the distaste for DENNIS HOY's continued
spamming of rtc (and other usenet groups), just send him an e-mail at
25-88.com. Since his new ISP has canceled his dialup, we no longer need
to complain to them, as DENNIS's account was terminated yesterday.

Chuck Rohlenbarf

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Sep 5, 2000, 7:42:39 PM9/5/00
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Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> got drunk and slurred:

>
> I want to thank everyone from RTC who filed complaints with the ISP's of
> the SPAMMER who targeted rtc using my e-mail address. Turns out it was
> our old friend DENNIS HOY, returned again.

erroneous information. see my .sig to find out who Dennis Hoy really is!

> And just as in all the other times he's SPAMMED usenet, this time got him
> tossed off yet another system.

Dennis Hoy owns http://www.rentajerk.com/ and the site is quite
successful. He has no need to spam, liarboy. In fact, i heard that his
site is listed as one of the top twenty picks in this month's "Shift"
magazine [the one with Spike Lee on the cover]. I really doubt he's got
time to play with a fool like you.

> Unfortunately, there are plenty more for him to abuse, so he'll
> almost certainly be back (and in the meantime, he'll continue to abuse
> usenet and RTC through anonymous remailers like the COTSE system).

heh. talk about conspiracy theories...

> These asswipes are like the groundhog game we used to play as kids. You
> swat one and another pops up! But you have to keep on swatting away.
>
> Anyway, here is the letter I received from Starnet.
>
> Subject: Network Abuse
> Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:30:12 -0500
> From: Postmaster Kurek <Postm...@starnetinc.com>
>
> Dear Sir:
>

> The MET DST log from the Toronto dialup

oh! so this is how you determined that it must be Dennis Hoy, right?
lmao! so starnet didn't actually give you Dennis Hoy's name, did they?
so if anyone does anything from Toronto, it's gotta be Dennis Hoy,
right? no wonder you're a failure in life -- you're too simple-minded!

> Chuck
>
> to send mail, remove the nospam from : chuc...@earthlink.net


>
> OH NO, they've KILLED KENNY (those bastards)

Chuck Rohlenbarf

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Sep 5, 2000, 8:09:49 PM9/5/00
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Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> made these noises with his
armpit:

>
> chuckk@-lynne-nissan-cotse.com wrote:
> >
> > Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I want to thank everyone from RTC who filed complaints with the ISP's of
> > > the SPAMMER who targeted rtc using my e-mail address. Turns out it was
> > > our old friend DENNIS HOY, returned again. And just as in all the other
> > > times he's SPAMMED usenet, this time got him tossed off yet another
> > > system. Unfortunately, there are plenty more for him to abuse, so he'll
> > > almost certainly be back (and in the meantime, he'll continue to abuse
> > > usenet and RTC through anonymous remailers like the COTSE system).
> >
> > Hey, Chuck. I read the following page:
>
> As promised, good old DENNIS HOY has returned and just as I said he
> would, he's hiding behind the friendly anonymous folks at COTSE!

wow! i am impressed. you now have the ability to positively identify
anonymous users from COTSE? maybe i should notify Stephen K. Gielda that
his service is useless.

of course, there's also the possibility that you're just taking wild
guesses. hmmm...if only you could serve COTSE with a real subpoena, as
opposed to a fantasy subpoena, you'd know for sure now, wouldn't you?
it's too bad you can't afford the twenty bucks to get your lawyer to
send out a subpoena to COTSE.

> If anyone wishes to voice the distaste for DENNIS HOY's continued
> spamming of rtc (and other usenet groups), just send him an e-mail at
> 25-88.com. Since his new ISP has canceled his dialup, we no longer need
> to complain to them, as DENNIS's account was terminated yesterday.

still clucking away, huh? to find out who Dennis Hoy really is, check
out my .sig!

like i said before, your useless anti-Hoy rants are going nowhere. Hoy's
site:

http://www.rentajerk.com/

is listed as one of this month's top twenty picks in Shift magazine [the
one with Spike Lee on the cover] and you're still a usenet loser. i bet
you're pretty jealous, huh?


> Chuck
>
> to send mail, remove the nospam from : chuc...@earthlink.net


>
> OH NO, they've KILLED KENNY (those bastards)

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¤ Do ya dig my big friggin' .sig? ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ The Official Chuck Kohlenberg FAQ -- Updated on: June 24, 2000 ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Who is Dennis Hoy? Proof that Chuck Kohlenberg is a buffoon! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/who_is_Dennis_Hoy/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Visit Dennis Hoy's site -- it's funny as hell! ¤
¤ http://www.rentajerk.com/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ A Canadian discovers a method to beat the slots! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/man_beats_slots/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Paramount Roulette System -- presented to piss off Chuck! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/2828/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ "Couldn't get it up huh, Chuck?" - Max Goldman, Grumpy Old Men ¤
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Chuck.K

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Sep 5, 2000, 10:11:10 PM9/5/00
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DENNIS HOY, once again posing as Chuck Rohlenbarf wrote:
>
> Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> made these noises with his
> armpit:
> >

How many aliases do you plan on using here Dennis?

Chuck

to send mail, remove the nospam from : Chuck....@Bigfoot.com

c.lyman

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Sep 6, 2000, 3:16:51 AM9/6/00
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In article <39B5827E...@Nospam.com>, Chuck.KH...@Nospam.com
says...

> As promised, good old DENNIS HOY has returned and just as I said he
> would, he's hiding behind the friendly anonymous folks at COTSE!
>
>

Steve has closed COTSE's anonymous service forever..and BTW,it wasn't
anonymous,you could trace anyone using it very easily,that's way it was
called "Pseudo Anonymous".

BTW,abuser's ISP account's we're terminated (with co-operation) who used
that site for hateful purposes.

c.lyman

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Sep 6, 2000, 3:36:22 AM9/6/00
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> > > Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> wrote: <<=====
>
>
The next time you use a forged address from Earthlink.Net.. your
account at PSI.net will be notified. I suggest you learn how to post
messages on Usenet before it cost you your Toronto PSI account.

Chuck Rohlenbarf

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Sep 6, 2000, 1:10:15 PM9/6/00
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c.lyman wrote:
>
> > > > Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> wrote: <<=====
> >
> >
> The next time you use a forged address from Earthlink.Net.. your
> account at PSI.net will be notified.

*trying to suppress my laughter*

Mr. Lyman, please clarify yourself. how do you feel that i've forged any
addresses in the post you were responding to? do you understand what it
means to forge an address? are you saying that the address that i've
quoted is forged? in which case, it's invalid and doesn't mean anything
to anybody, right? if anything, in that case, i've probably done someone
a favour by munging their actual address from harvesters, right? or, are
you accusing me of an actual forge and posting under someone else's
alias and e-mail address. in which case, i suggest you carefully re-read
the headers of the post you were responding to.

> I suggest you learn how to post messages on Usenet before it cost
> you your Toronto PSI account.

*can't suppress my laughter any longer*

your suggestion has been taken in kind, Mr. Lyman, but there's no need
to resort to empty threats. all my accounts are disposable because i
don't rely on an ISP's e-mail address. there's close to two hundred
ISP's in the Greater Toronto Area and if i get booted from them all,
i'll just start the circuit again. it doesn't bother me.

you have to understand something, Mr. Lyman. although i am an old-school
user, i am not from the old-school of thought: i see no shame in losing
an account. i feel that if a business is willing to side with a
non-paying complainant and is willing to discipline or punish their own
customer, i am not interested in giving them my patronage in the first
place. so far, PSI.NET has been good to me -- i've been with them for
over two years without incident.

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ค Do ya dig my big friggin' .sig? ค
ค ================================================================ ค
ค The Official Chuck Kohlenberg FAQ -- Updated on: June 24, 2000 ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Who is Dennis Hoy? Proof that Chuck Kohlenberg is a buffoon! ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/who_is_Dennis_Hoy/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Visit Dennis Hoy's site -- it's funny as hell! ค
http://www.rentajerk.com/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค A Canadian discovers a method to beat the slots! ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/man_beats_slots/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Paramount Roulette System -- presented to piss off Chuck! ค
http://www.25-88.com/2828/
ค ================================================================ ค

ค "Couldn't get it up huh, Chuck?" - Max Goldman, Grumpy Old Men ค
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Wolfpack Fan

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Sep 6, 2000, 2:57:28 PM9/6/00
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Folks come on give us a break. Now I know Survivor didn't have much to
do with cruising, but I know this has absolutely nothing to do with
cruising. Can't you call each other names and carry on your flame
exchange in private email? I guess it just wouldn't be as much fun that
way, would it?

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

BRubin7878

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Sep 6, 2000, 3:31:08 PM9/6/00
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>Subject: Re: DENNIS HOY loses another account, was : Chuck is a psycho
>From: Wolfpack Fan wolfp...@my-deja.com
>Date: 9/6/00 2:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8p642c$6f4$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>

>
>Folks come on give us a break. Now I know Survivor didn't have much to
>do with cruising, but I know this has absolutely nothing to do with
>cruising. Can't you call each other names and carry on your flame
>exchange in private email? I guess it just wouldn't be as much fun that
>way, would it?

It is the price you pay when upchuck posts on your group. The jerk has more
stalkers tham Pam Anderson.

.
http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm
Chuck K. on the First Amendment;"I hope that from your end,protecting that
persons"freedom of speech" will be worth it to you. All I can hope is that it
costs you enough to make you think the next time..."

chu...@-lynne-nissan-cotse.com

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Sep 7, 2000, 12:08:30 AM9/7/00
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c.lyman <Net...@excite.com> wrote:

> This was NOT an empty threat,trust me. Just for the record,PSI will get a
> copy of your reply and so will Earthlink security,any further violations
> will be handled by PSI.
>
>
>
>
> In article <39B67A...@rollinginbarf.cum>,
> chuck.ro...@rollinginbarf.cum babbles incoherently...


> >Mr. Lyman, but there's no need
> > to resort to empty threats. all my accounts are disposable because i
> > don't rely on an ISP's e-mail address. there's close to two hundred
> > ISP's in the Greater Toronto Area and if i get booted from them all,
> > i'll just start the circuit again. it doesn't bother me.


Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?

Go ahead, waste your time. Not only isn't there a thing they CAN do, there isn't
anything they WANT to do.

Tell you what: give it your best shot. Then BE HONEST, come back and TELL US
what happened.

Just don't make the same mistake Chuck Kohlenberg made when he went crying to
COTSE:

http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm

My favorite was how he started making threatening phone calls when he didn't get
his way. Then, AFTER making the threats, he starts with his hang-up calls.

Chuck Kohlenberg is obviously NOT the brightest bulb in the pack.

Say, I wonder whatever happened to his good friend WES MAUPIN, aka
plu...@cyberhighway.net.


c.lyman

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Sep 7, 2000, 3:31:42 AM9/7/00
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In article <968299710.3...@webmail.cotse.com>, chuckk@-lynne-
nissan-cotse.com says...

> Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
> PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?
>
>
YES they do care and I got an immediate *personal* reply as usual from
PSI after I forwarded your *exact* remarks,now test them?

bob_b...@my-deja.com

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My mistake..I almost accused the wrong person,this brainless dweeb
man/child Dennis Hoy is a pure idiot,the little turd just wants to be
hugged by someone here. muhahaha

Has everyone else noticed the maturity level of this idiot DENNIS
HOY,what a mess.

me thinks we are dealing with the brain damaged here,
me thinks he picked up the throw-away brain instead of a throw-away
account when they were handing them out?

bb

c.lyman

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Sep 7, 2000, 4:15:27 AM9/7/00
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In article <yvHt5.25917$p5.9...@newsread03.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
Net...@excite.com says...

> In article <968299710.3...@webmail.cotse.com>, chuckk@-lynne-
> nissan-cotse.com says...
> > Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
> > PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?
> >
>
>

We've been doing alittle checking on this Dennis Hoy @ PSI.net and it
seems he has a habit of STALKING people ONLINE and then harassing them,he
likes to forge names from REAL ISPs and set up free accounts then post
harnessing messages,he's left a slime trail a mile long.

If Chuck K wants to pursue this guy,drop me a note and I'll give you the
name of someone to contact at PSI,just make sure you gather all suspected
messages he's posted in the last month or so with full headers. I'll
contact Steve at Cotse and have him confirm the postings were made from
PSI..that's all they need if you want to dump this scumbag.

Dennis Hoy (if that's your real name) your an fool for doing this and
it will backfire right in your face little dumb boy...you stupid idiot.

H. S. HATCH JR.

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Sep 7, 2000, 6:25:54 AM9/7/00
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GREETINGS

The post from Bob Benbow had the word "muhahaha" in it.

I received a nasty e mail from c liman that used the same
word--muhahaha.

Makes me think that benbo and liman are one in the same and all part of
chuck k's little pack of fools who are parading around here on RTC.

Wish you clowns would go elsewhere.

HAPPY RAILS TO YOU


CRICK

chu...@-tryit-cotse.com

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c.lyman <Net...@excite.com> wrote:


You're sounding A LOT like Chuck here. "I got an immediate *personal* reply from
them". Isn't that the bluster that Chuck keeps trying to use? "I spoke
personally with the FBI agents, and they assured me that this is now a FEDERAL
matter." Yeah, sure.

If anyone wants to check out the similarities between Chuck and c.lyman, just go
to:

http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm

Besides, what about my post didn't you like? I simply pointed out the REALITIES
of life. Go ahead--if you don't like what I post, tough. If you can't take the
heat, stay out of the kitchen.

And when you get NO response from PSI or Earthlink, don't come crying back here.


chu...@-justtryit-cotse.com

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Sep 7, 2000, 9:22:35 AM9/7/00
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c.lyman <Net...@excite.com> wrote:

> In article <yvHt5.25917$p5.9...@newsread03.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> Net...@excite.com says...
> > In article <968299710.3...@webmail.cotse.com>, chuckk@-lynne-
> > nissan-cotse.com says...
> > > Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
> > > PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?
> > >
> >
> >
>
> We've been doing alittle checking on this Dennis Hoy @ PSI.net and it
> seems he has a habit of STALKING people ONLINE and then harassing them,he
> likes to forge names from REAL ISPs and set up free accounts then post
> harnessing messages,he's left a slime trail a mile long.
>
> If Chuck K wants to pursue this guy,drop me a note and I'll give you the
> name of someone to contact at PSI,just make sure you gather all suspected
> messages he's posted in the last month or so with full headers. I'll
> contact Steve at Cotse and have him confirm the postings were made from
> PSI..that's all they need if you want to dump this scumbag.

Chuck, if you're going to use free email and ISP accounts to try to hide behind,
the least you can do is try NOT TO SOUND LIKE YOURSELF so much.

Jesus. Anyone who reads

http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm

can see the similarities, plain and simple, between Chuck Kohlenberg and this
c.lyman who has a free email account to post behind.

Funny thing--when Chuck can't figure out how to post a message without his IP
address going public, he just switches to one of the many free ISPs that are
available, just so he can try to be someone else.

Except, he CAN'T. Any more then (sic) a leopard can change his spots.

Say, Chuck: where's that LAWSUIT against COTSE?

So, Chuck, do us all a favor: put your money where your big MOUTH is and show us
all here in r.t.c. the results of your "personal" communications with these ISPs
you claim to be talking with.

But, what with your extensive communication with the FBI on a daily basis, it's a
wonder you have the chance to take a dump, let alone talk with some piddly little
ISP.

But hey, if that's what you enjoy doing for a living...well, go ahead and let the
whole world know.

The BIG question, though, is since you do nothing but sit in your dark room with
your pants around your ankle, one hand on the keyboard, why do you even bother
with the pants at all?

How's WES MAUPIN, aka plu...@cyberhighway.net?


Skip

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Sep 7, 2000, 10:55:53 AM9/7/00
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On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:57:28 GMT, Wolfpack Fan <wolfp...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>Folks come on give us a break. Now I know Survivor didn't have much to
>do with cruising, but I know this has absolutely nothing to do with
>cruising. Can't you call each other names and carry on your flame
>exchange in private email? I guess it just wouldn't be as much fun that
>way, would it?

The objective of trolls is to get others to respond. The more anti-troll
the response, the more the trolls enjoy it because it validates their
need to respond to the "attack". Trolls try to rationalize their
actions by claiming their actions are legitimate attempts to expose
the actions of others, their negative personality traits and to punish
them for their offenses. Challenge the trolls and you are
assigned by them as having taken sides with the target and are
equally subject to attacks.

The current ones and their target of choice have spilled over from
another newsgroup. The target, who does give lots of good info,
tends to be pugnacious when challenged and will not back down.
He also feels duty bound to overwhelm and deal with anyone he
feels has violated Usenet etiquette or his own rules of conduct.

As you can see, this person makes a perfect target for the troll.
The nastier the war gets, the more people join in and take sides.
The flame war is on and this is what the trolls live for. The troll
can read the posts and say, "Ah, look what I've accomplished.
They are all posting because of me."

With the structure of Usenet trolls are inevitable. The best way to
deal with them is to ignore them and not give them the attention they
seek. With no attention they tend to leave to try to stir up things
elsewhere.

Skip

chu...@-chucktroll-cotse.com

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Sep 7, 2000, 1:42:33 PM9/7/00
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skipf...@yahoo.com wrote:

> The objective of trolls is to get others to respond. The more anti-troll
> the response, the more the trolls enjoy it because it validates their
> need to respond to the "attack". Trolls try to rationalize their
> actions by claiming their actions are legitimate attempts to expose
> the actions of others, their negative personality traits and to punish
> them for their offenses. Challenge the trolls and you are
> assigned by them as having taken sides with the target and are
> equally subject to attacks.

Hey, look. You've just described Chuck Kohlenberg:

* He rationalizes his actions by claiming they are legitimate attempts to expose
the actions of others ("he's a spammer, he must be rooted out and killed, and
it's my personal responsibility to do so")

* his goal is to punish them for their offenses

* if you challenge Chuck then he equates you with the spammer or troller in
question--in other words, in Chuck's world things are black and white.

> As you can see, this person makes a perfect target for the troll.

Wait a minute--Chuck Kohlenberg *is* the troll.


Chuck Rohlenbarf

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Sep 7, 2000, 1:59:52 PM9/7/00
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c.lyman wrote:
>
> This was NOT an empty threat,trust me. Just for the record,PSI will get a
> copy of your reply and so will Earthlink security,any further violations
> will be handled by PSI.

heh. please specify how i violated PSI's TOS agreement, Mr. Lyman.
better yet. i am going to call PSI right after i finish answering a
couple of your posts. i am going to ask them what i am doing wrong.


> In article <39B67A...@rollinginbarf.cum>,
> chuck.ro...@rollinginbarf.cum babbles incoherently...

> >Mr. Lyman, but there's no need
> > to resort to empty threats. all my accounts are disposable because i
> > don't rely on an ISP's e-mail address. there's close to two hundred
> > ISP's in the Greater Toronto Area and if i get booted from them all,
> > i'll just start the circuit again. it doesn't bother me.


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¤ Do ya dig my big friggin' .sig? ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ The Official Chuck Kohlenberg FAQ -- Updated on: June 24, 2000 ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Who is Dennis Hoy? Proof that Chuck Kohlenberg is a buffoon! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/who_is_Dennis_Hoy/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Visit Dennis Hoy's site -- it's funny as hell! ¤
¤ http://www.rentajerk.com/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ A Canadian discovers a method to beat the slots! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/man_beats_slots/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Paramount Roulette System -- presented to piss off Chuck! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/2828/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
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¤ ================================================================ ¤
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Chuck Rohlenbarf

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c.lyman wrote:
>
> In article <yvHt5.25917$p5.9...@newsread03.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
> Net...@excite.com says...
> > In article <968299710.3...@webmail.cotse.com>, chuckk@-lynne-
> > nissan-cotse.com says...
> > > Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
> > > PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?
> > >
> >
> >
>
> We've been doing alittle checking on this Dennis Hoy @ PSI.net and it
> seems he has a habit of STALKING people ONLINE and then harassing them,he
> likes to forge names from REAL ISPs and set up free accounts then post
> harnessing messages,he's left a slime trail a mile long.

are you claiming that a PSI network admin specifically told you that
Dennis Hoy "has a habit of STALKING people ONLINE and then harassing
them, he likes to forge names from REAL ISPs and set up free accounts
then post harnessing messages?" interesting. i am going to follow up on
this one. if PSI denies making those comments, i wonder happens then?

> If Chuck K wants to pursue this guy,drop me a note and I'll give you the
> name of someone to contact at PSI,just make sure you gather all suspected
> messages he's posted in the last month or so with full headers. I'll
> contact Steve at Cotse and have him confirm the postings were made from
> PSI..that's all they need if you want to dump this scumbag.

this sounds very appealing and reasonable. subpoena Stephen K. Gielda of
COTSE for all the logfiles from the "chuckk@*-cotse.com" poster. those
logs will exonerate both Dennis Hoy and myself from having made those
offensive postings. i implore you to notify Gielda as soon as you can
that you want those logs held because they turn over every seven days if
a request for a hold is not received.

on my end, i'll co-operate with PSI and notify them that if my logfiles
are requested, they won't need a subpoena to release them to any law
enforcement agency. if need be, i'll give written permission to release
my logfiles without a subpoena.

is there anything else i can do to assist you in your mission, Mr.
Lyman?

> Dennis Hoy (if that's your real name)

if you believe chuck kohlenberg, then my name is Dennis Hoy. if you
don't believe him, i can tell you that my real name is not Dennis Hoy.
on the other hand, if you are undecided and are willing to research who
Dennis Hoy really is, you can start by taking a look at my .sig file.

while you're at it, you can also take a look at chuck kohlenberg's
dubious history on usenet. in fact, there's a posting on his FAQ which
originated from this particular group a while back. in that article he
brags about how he's harassing a female travel agent, who "spammed" the
newsgroup, late at night over the telephone. i'll make it easier to
access for those who want immediate access to it. here's the link:

http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/harass_002.txt

> your an fool for doing this and it will backfire right in
> your face little dumb boy...you stupid idiot.

damn! things were going so well for you a minute ago until you wrote
this.

you keep accusing me of doing dastardly deeds. please specify what it is
i am doing which makes me a fool. are you saying that i am a fool for
daring to speak out against chuck kohlenberg? are you insinuating that i
am foolish for daring to speak out against you?

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¤ Do ya dig my big friggin' .sig? ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ The Official Chuck Kohlenberg FAQ -- Updated on: June 24, 2000 ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Who is Dennis Hoy? Proof that Chuck Kohlenberg is a buffoon! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/who_is_Dennis_Hoy/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Visit Dennis Hoy's site -- it's funny as hell! ¤
¤ http://www.rentajerk.com/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ A Canadian discovers a method to beat the slots! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/man_beats_slots/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ Paramount Roulette System -- presented to piss off Chuck! ¤
¤ http://www.25-88.com/2828/ ¤
¤ ================================================================ ¤
¤ "Couldn't get it up huh, Chuck?" - Max Goldman, Grumpy Old Men ¤

Chuck.K

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chuckk@-lynne-nissan-cotse.com wrote:

> Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
> PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?
>

Dennis has deteriorated into a classic NET KOOK! First, he asks a
question. Then, with ANOTHER ALIAS, he responds to it.

Classic! Watta Marroon!

How many aliases are you going to USE, Dennis?

Chuck

to send mail, remove the nospam from : Chuck....@Bigfoot.com

Chuck Rohlenbarf

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HOLY SHIT!!!

[for the record, this is probably the first time i've ever posted
profanity to usenet and definitely the first time i've ever typed
something out in full caps...so please forgive me...]

Hatch, if you hadn't posted your article, i wouldn't have even paid any
attention whatsoever to that benbow guy. but riding on your observation,
i decided to take a closer look and this is what i found:


<!-- c.lyman's headers -->
From: c.lyman <Net...@excite.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises


Subject: Re: DENNIS HOY loses another account, was : Chuck is a psycho

X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.30
Lines: 23
Message-ID: <z8It5.25947$p5.9...@newsread03.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 08:15:27 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.25.45.57
X-Complaints-To: ab...@earthlink.net
X-Trace: newsread03.prod.itd.earthlink.net 968314527 63.25.45.57 (Thu,
07 Sep 2000 01:15:27 PDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 01:15:27 PDT
Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
<!-- c.lyman's headers -->


<!-- bob_benbow's headers -->
From: bob_b...@my-deja.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises


Subject: Re: DENNIS HOY loses another account, was : Chuck is a psycho

Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000 07:41:33 GMT
Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy.
Lines: 16
Message-ID: <8p7gra$qla$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.25.45.57
X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Sep 07 07:41:33 2000 GMT
X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.75 [en] (Win98; U)
X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x54.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 63.25.45.57
X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDbob_benbow
<!-- bob_benbow's headers -->


now compare the "NNTP-Posting-Host:" line of the two sets of headers.
same IP address. therefore, c.lyman and bob_benbow are definitely the
same person posting under two different aliases.

to go a bit further, i checked where that IP lead to and here's the
information:

Name: 1Cust57.tnt2.kennewick.wa.da.uu.net
Address: 63.25.45.57

based on this new information, it's confirmed that chuck kohlenberg is
either using sock puppets to generate support for himself or his allies
need to rely on sock puppets in order to appear as though they have
supporters. that's sad.

this is one set of articles that will definitely be added to the chuckie
cheesy FAQ.

excellent observation, Hatch! i owe ya one!

now i am going to attempt to graciously bow out of this newsgroup as i
am sure my presence here is as equally annoying as chuck kohlenberg and
his sock puppets.

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ค Do ya dig my big friggin' .sig? ค
ค ================================================================ ค
ค The Official Chuck Kohlenberg FAQ -- Updated on: June 24, 2000 ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Who is Dennis Hoy? Proof that Chuck Kohlenberg is a buffoon! ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/who_is_Dennis_Hoy/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Visit Dennis Hoy's site -- it's funny as hell! ค
http://www.rentajerk.com/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค A Canadian discovers a method to beat the slots! ค
http://www.25-88.com/chuckie_cheesy/man_beats_slots/
ค ================================================================ ค
ค Paramount Roulette System -- presented to piss off Chuck! ค
http://www.25-88.com/2828/
ค ================================================================ ค

ค "Couldn't get it up huh, Chuck?" - Max Goldman, Grumpy Old Men ค
ค ================================================================ ค
ค "Have many cocks have you swallowed today, Cock Kohlenberg?" ค
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Jim Bucholz

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"Chuck.K" wrote:
>
> chuckk@-lynne-nissan-cotse.com wrote:
>
> > Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
> > PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?
> >
>
> Dennis has deteriorated into a classic NET KOOK! First, he asks a
> question. Then, with ANOTHER ALIAS, he responds to it.
>
> Classic! Watta Marroon!
>
> How many aliases are you going to USE, Dennis?
>
> Chuck


Would you morons kindly take this spat to e-mail where it belongs? We
don't care.

--

Jim Bucholz
jbuc...@home.com

Chuck.K

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Sep 7, 2000, 5:43:34 PM9/7/00
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Juliana L Holm wrote:
>
> Chuck Rohlenbarf <chuck.ro...@rollinginbarf.cum> wrote:
>
> Chuck, will you please stop changing your return address name, I can't seem to keep you in my killfile
>
> Julie

Sorry Julie.

Dennis Hoy (his REAL name), as a certified NET KOOK, uses numerous, ever
changing aliases and throwaway accounts to respond to his current MAJOR
alias (in this iteration, Rollenbarf). Otherwise, he'd have no one
responding to his off topic flame wars.

On other newsgroups, he's also used Ainsley Cooper (a dreadlocked
rastafarian) as the MAJOR alias, still other (more famous) were Joe
McCall and James Hathaway (2 VERY well known roulette SPAMMERS).

All traced back to HOY (of 25-88.com fame).



Chuck

to send mail, remove the nospam from : Chuck....@Bigfoot.com

chu...@-notme-cotse.com

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Sep 7, 2000, 7:04:56 PM9/7/00
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Chuck Kohlenberg <chuc...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> chuckk@-lynne-nissan-cotse.com wrote:
>
> > Hey, C-More. Trust me, you can't do a thing about anything. You want to give
> > PSI and Earthlink a copy of some message? You think they care?
> >
>
>
>
> Dennis has deteriorated into a classic NET KOOK! First, he asks a
> question. Then, with ANOTHER ALIAS, he responds to it.
>
> Classic! Watta Marroon!
>
> How many aliases are you going to USE, Dennis?
>
>
>
> Chuck
>

> to send mail: chuc...@earthlink.net


So, Chuck. Just how much MONEY do you want to put on the line here? I am
neither Dennis Hoy NOR am I Chuck Rohlenbarf, whoever that is.

Of course, you're such a pussy, you'd NEVER bet on something like this. Because
your history is such that you KNOW the chance of you being COMPLETELY WRONG is
very, VERY good. In this case, it's 100%. And you know it.

Of course, for all the people here know, I'm you--responding to myself.


c`lyman

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Sep 7, 2000, 11:40:11 PM9/7/00
to
In article <968332955.3...@webmail.cotse.com>, chuckk@-
justtryit-cotse.com says...

> Chuck, if you're going to use free email and ISP accounts to try to hide behind,
> the least you can do is try NOT TO SOUND LIKE YOURSELF so much.
>
> Jesus. Anyone who reads
>
>

You don't have a clue who your dealing with do you..I am NOT Chuck K,all
you need to do is read my address and header. Every post your making as
of yesterday, is being traced from known addresses and I'll guarantee
you'll pay a price for stalking people. As a side note..I have full co-
operation from Cotse concerning your past so-called anonymous posting and
Steve is helping in every way,you abused his system and your partly
responsible for his shutting down that service,you are such a brainless
joke.

As a side note..your personal information along with your REAL name will
be passed along to all Toronto ISP's along with explanation about your
net behavior,when requested, we will also forward to them examples of
your behavior along with the "throw-away" accounts message you posted of
which PSI has received.

Your childish stalking days are about to end..from what I've read,your
such a pathetic person,very lonely and you seem to be looking for
attention...nobody really cares.

I will no longer respond to you personally or publicly,period!

c`lyman

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Sep 8, 2000, 12:01:05 AM9/8/00
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In article <39B80C26...@Bigfoot.com>, Chuck.KH...@Bigfoot.com
says...

> Dennis Hoy (his REAL name), as a certified NET KOOK,
>

He is a pathetic sole isn't he,he haunts newsgroups he has no interest
in hoping someone will respond to his plea's for attention,I almost died
laughing when I went back and started reading his posting history,I'd be
willing to bet he has been under or still is under mental treatment,most
people of this type are or should be...you can tell he's desperate,he
goes to such length's to get this attention.


My partner feels sorry for the poor sole...I laughed. We'll just sit back
and watch him hang himself. hehe


chu...@-stalk?-cotse.com

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Sep 8, 2000, 4:08:59 AM9/8/00
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c`lyman <Net...@excite.com> wrote:

> You don't have a clue who your dealing with do you..I am NOT Chuck K,all
> you need to do is read my address and header. Every post your making as
> of yesterday, is being traced from known addresses and I'll guarantee
> you'll pay a price for stalking people.

Gee, weren't you c.lyman just a little while ago? Now you're c'lyman.

Anyway, Chuck, you're sounding more and more like yourself every day. There
can't possibly be TWO of you "reading headers" and "tracing posts" and trying to
get people to "pay a price" for some invented indiscretion.

Speaking of invented indiscretions, just what "stalking" are you talking about
here? Get a fucking clue: if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

> As a side note..I have full co-
> operation from Cotse

Really, Chuck? The same way you did with

http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm

?????

Man, the lights on, but NOBODY'S at home.


> and
> Steve is helping in every way,

Really? Helping with WHAT?

Go ahead, dickless wonder. Tell the world (a) what I've done to deserve any
attention from Steve, and (b) just how you're "working with Steve" (your buddy)
to do anything.

Just what problem are you trying to solve?

Get a fucking clue. Quit trying to solve the world's problems, and quit trying
to get an ego fix. Jesus.

Say, have you ever BEEN to COTSE? Ever read his policies? I thought not.

> you abused his system and your partly
> responsible for his shutting down that service

Just like good old Chuck Kohlenberg. Gee, let's see now: that service is shut
down? Hmmmm. Really. Then how is this posting getting out?

Figures. Just like back in May, when you made all sorts of accusations about
COTSE, you've never even bothered to go there. You've never BEEN there. You
don't know what it is and what it isn't, what it offers and what it doesn't.

Read it again:

http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm

I particularly liked the part about how you "own" the handle "chuck.k" and how it
was COTSE's responsibility to hand over any information about anyone else using
that type of handle. Never mind that the actual originating email address was
anon...@cotse.com! Nosir, not in Chuck's world. You were so mad, you couldn't
even READ straight--you thought things were being posted as coming from
chu...@cotse.com, and by God nobody else was allowed to use chuck.k in ANY form,
so you were DOUBLY mad.

So before you go off on another monomaniacal ego rant, why don't you bother to
just GO THERE and FIND OUT what COTSE is and what it does?

Of course, you never go to Las Vegas and bother to find out anything about THAT
either, but THAT doesn't STOP you from posting your ego rants to
alt.vacation.las-vegas. (Speaking of ego rants, some of the funnier ones were
where you, the used car salesman, ranted against travel agents; it was as if the
only way you could justify your self worth was to take some group, ANY group, and
try to make them sound WORSE than your used car sales sleaze.)

> As a side note..your personal information along with your REAL name will
> be passed along to all Toronto ISP's along with explanation about your
> net behavior,when requested, we will also forward to them examples of
> your behavior along with the "throw-away" accounts message you posted of
> which PSI has received.

That's nice. I'm not in Toronto. Never been there. Will you do Madrid a favor
and pass along the same information? You never know; they might need your savior
services, too.

Man, you're a piece of work. I think I'll hang around here just to show the
newsgroup how FULL of HOT AIR you really are.

> Your childish stalking days are about to end..

What stalking? I've never stalked anyone in my life.

If you're talking about newsgroup posting....you need to GET A LIFE.

> I will no longer respond to you personally or publicly,period!

Yeah, right. Sure, Chuckie boy. You don't have it in you. Never did, never
will. You can't stay away. Remember, it's your "DUTY" to do whatever YOU want
to "CLEANSE" the world of forces YOU think it should be cleansed of.

An interesting way for a Jewish man to live his life, don't you think?

Say, Chuck: how's your buddy Wes Maupin, aka plu...@cyberhighway.net?


chu...@-notafish-cotse.com

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c`lyman <Net...@excite.com> wrote:

> He is a pathetic sole isn't he

You're calling someone "a pathetic piece of fish"??? What is that, some kind of
new ethnic slur?


> My partner feels sorry for the poor sole...I laughed. We'll just sit back
> and watch him hang himself. hehe

Your partner. OK.

As for hanging anyone...it's OK, we'll let you hang yourself. You've publicly
blustered your way into this; now, when you can't produce, we'll see if you fly
high and long after being deflated so badly.

(Just waiting for you to tell the world WHAT "stalking" behavior you're "working
with Steve over at COTSE" about. Man, you ARE Chuck Kohlenberg; anyone who reads
http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm can see that!)


law...@netscape.net

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Sep 8, 2000, 5:41:02 AM9/8/00
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I regret even entering this mess but you know things are screwed
up when WEBTV types enter with something stupid to add. This thread was
exposing a net abuser/harrasser(dennis hoy) and this WEBTV fool butts in
without a clue, he doesn't even know who the harrasser is,things are
going to hell in a hand basket. Drop this friggen thread,it's attracting
flies!

muhahahahahahahaha!!!!!! <G>!


In article <6606-39...@storefull-111.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
cri...@webtv.net says...


> GREETINGS
>
> The post from Bob Benbow had the word "muhahaha" in
it.
>
> I received a nasty e mail from c liman that used the same
>
word--muhahaha.
>
> Makes me think that benbo and liman are one in the
same and all part of
> chuck k's little pack of fools who are parading
around here on RTC.
>
> Wish you clowns would go elsewhere.
>
>
HAPPY RAILS TO YOU
>
>
> CRICK

Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

CANDY...@webtv.net

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Sep 8, 2000, 6:11:47 AM9/8/00
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Could someone explain to me what the heck is going on? I know I am new
to this group, I have been reading these posts ( and others) over the
last few weeks and all I know for sure is, there are some people who are
not well liked. Not at all. I don't know who to believe or why this is
going on. If anyone can fill me in as to who to stay clear of, that
would be helpful. Though it is entertaining at times, it is a little
weird too. Sometimes even shocking...
Now Chuck, Dennis & John and who ever else is out there making waves,
don't start on me!
All I want to do is Cruise!!! Thanks, Candice

CANDY...@webtv.net

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Sep 8, 2000, 6:45:49 AM9/8/00
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What are you saying. You capitalized webtv. Is there something foolish
about owning a web tv? I don't think that was called for. .Some people
like to sit back or their couch or comfortable chair and see what is
going on the internet...Some people have web tv and a computer. Some
people don't need a computer. Some people can't afford a computer, but
does that make any of those people fools or make people with just
computers better? I would really like to know.
Oh,
by George I think I got it..
If you own a webtv that you bought at K-mart while you were shopping
for your flip flops and baseball cap, then you can surf the net and
search for that Carnival Cruise.

robert browne

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Sep 8, 2000, 7:31:48 AM9/8/00
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Whoever these people are, they need to go someplace else. They show up now
and then and pollute this group (and I assume some others) with their utter
nonsense.
The only thing we can do is ignore them until they go away.
Bob

law...@netscape.net

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Sep 8, 2000, 7:46:25 AM9/8/00
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TROLL ALERT! He won't be here when I get back,aloha!

Forward all his OT posts to ab...@psi.net with full headers. Explain to
them that he is TROLLING this newsgroup and is disrupting it with
OT/harrassing posts, He has never posted a on-topic message here.
Actually,you can forward all his posts from here,they will get the
message when they are flooded with complaints.

In article <968400539.3...@webmail.cotse.com>,

BRubin7878

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Sep 8, 2000, 9:33:14 AM9/8/00
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>Subject: Re: DENNIS HOY loses another account, was : Chuck is a psycho
>From: CANDY...@webtv.net
>Date: 9/8/00 6:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <24659-39...@storefull-266.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

To get a clue read the link in my sig. It will tell why upchuck has stalkers
all over usenet. He is a jerk and posters enjoy seeing him suffer.

.
http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm
Chuck K. on the First Amendment;"I hope that from your end,protecting that
persons"freedom of speech" will be worth it to you. All I can hope is that it
costs you enough to make you think the next time..."

BRubin7878

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Sep 8, 2000, 9:39:21 AM9/8/00
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>Subject: Re: WEBTV Fool?
>From: CANDY...@webtv.net
>Date: 9/8/00 6:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <24659-39...@storefull-266.iap.bryant.webtv.net>
>

Welcome to upchuck's world. On planet upchuck, upchuck decides who is a fool.
Upchuck says any person using Web TV or AOL is a fool. Why? Because upchuck
says so. Just think if he calls you names a few more times you may be tempted
to join the moron's stalkers.

lyman

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Sep 8, 2000, 11:38:50 AM9/8/00
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In article <20000908093314...@ng-ca1.aol.com>,
brubi...@aol.comnospam says...

> To get a clue read the link in my sig. It will tell why upchuck has stalkers
> all over usenet. He is a jerk and posters enjoy seeing him suffer.
>
> .
> http://www.cotse.com/chuckk.htm
>
>

hmmm,anyone whose read's that site will certainly be on Chuckk's side(no
he's not perfect) and not on the spineless harrasser's side,but then look
where the guy above is from.. AOL,it figures..if it's not webtv then it's
AOL,they must have opened the books again and are giving away free
accounts to HS dropouts.

Plunk!!

Jim

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Sep 8, 2000, 11:40:09 AM9/8/00
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Very true. Unfortunately it isn't only 'Chuck' that has a habit of jumping
on people because of what equipment they use to view the web, where they
shop, what cruiseline they enjoy, what their occupation is, or even what
website they think is best. The nit-picking is just the way some of the
world is. I much prefer trying to be friendly and helpful and for those that
wish to continue these foolish and wasteful attitudes, I will no longer play
with you. You just aren't worth the antacids. Ever wonder why good folks
like GeorgeinNY, Tim, and many more no longer bother to post here?
Jim

BRubin7878 wrote in message
<20000908093921...@ng-ca1.aol.com>...

BRubin7878

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Sep 8, 2000, 11:58:00 AM9/8/00
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>Subject: Re: DENNIS HOY loses another account, was : Chuck is a psycho
>From: lyman,c Net...@excite.com
>Date: 9/8/00 11:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <eK7u5.27834$K4.12...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

Its plonk not plunk,moron. Hi upchuck.

ink4...@webtv.net

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Sep 8, 2000, 11:13:40 PM9/8/00
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zippy:
yep, picture in picture w/webtv is neat,
one eye is on tv portion, the other is surfing.
I sit at a pc all day at work, I have no need for Access, Excel and
Powerpoint
at home. And I detest MS Outlook.
The only thing I like about it is the animated dog, he's cute.
So I like webtv, because all I want it for is personal mail and surf
capability. From my recliner. Can't do that at work!
$1500.00 pc...$185.00 webtv plus. Hmm.
Joey<------42 days till Paradise


Diversity is the key to information.
Information is knowledge.

lyman

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Sep 10, 2000, 12:41:02 PM9/10/00
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In article <20000908093921...@ng-ca1.aol.com>,
brubi...@aol.comnospam says...

> Welcome to upchuck's world. On planet upchuck, upchuck decides who is a fool.
> Upchuck says any person using Web TV or AOL is a fool. Why? Because upchuck
> says so. Just think if he calls you names a few more times you may be tempted
> to join the moron's stalkers.
>
>
>
I can't believe how purposely ignorant this AOLER
is,(brubi...@aol.comnospam )he hasn't got the capability to learn the
bare basics of how to ID someone via their headers,a classic california
AOL airhead. heheh

PLUNK!!

BRubin7878

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Sep 10, 2000, 2:23:06 PM9/10/00
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>Subject: Re: WEBTV Fool?
>From: lyman,c Net...@excite.com
>Date: 9/10/00 12:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <yQOu5.1214$zC.6...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

First of all the term is plonk not plunk. Second of all upchuck,can you say
earth link? I knew that you could.

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