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Dick Goldhaber

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Nov 30, 2004, 2:15:00 PM11/30/04
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Jason Venner, the cruise director on the inaugural Trans-Atlantic crossing
of HAL's newest Vista Class ship said to assess the entire package and give
little mind to the occasional glitch. I'd really like to do that, but there
were far too many occasional glitches.

Like always having juice and coffee delivered anywhere from ten to thirty
five minutes early. Or like yesterday. We had our own arrangements to fly
home and therefore were among the last people to clear the ship. So we
asked for cabin delivery between 8 and 8:30 only to receive a knock on the
door at 6:40AM. By yesterday it had already become a joke between us as
to what time to request service so it would come when we were, first, awake,
and second, wearing pajamas.

Another "glitch" was cabin and dining room service. Our cabin steward
obviously had too many cabins to serve and thus ours was rarely made up
until after lunch, although he did a superb job, as did our waiter, Sang.
It has always been our experience that dining room waiters usually had from
12 - 14 people to serve, but Sang had 18. That meant that his assistant
spent most of his time running food from the kitchen, and little time for
the nuances like keeping a water glass filled.

Also, while TV is probably not important to many cruisers, and with the
knowledge that there are "dead spots" as one crosses the Atlantic which
interrupt service, there was no reason for us to lose ESPN on November 16th
and not get it back until we were in St. Maartin on the 26th. The same was
true for CNN which vanished for over a week.

Another minor annoyance was the crew's need to rearrange the chairs by the
Lido pool at 11PM and 5AM. They were directly above our carefully chosen
mid-ship location.

Moving right along, our TA sent us caviar and champagne as a "bon voyage"
gift and we found them both in the cabin when we boarded. I only mention
this as a reminder, but caviar is served with chopped eggs, parsley, and raw
ONION, and by 8PM, when we went to dinner, the cabin reeked in spite of the
fact that we wrapped the onion in the wrapping it came in and placed it in
the refrigerator.

There was our "special dinner" request. On the first night the table
captain stopped by and asked when we would like to have it, and when we
mentioned the possibility of the next night he advised us that there weren't
any onboard at the time but that they would try to get them over the next
days in our posts of call. After that we noticed that he avoided us.
Finally Danni found Michael, the 2nd Executive Chef at the Lido and asked
him, and he said that
the meat had been there all of the time, but that the kitchen didn't know
who they were for and our table captain never volunteered the information.
Danni told Michael how she makes them, except that somewhere in the
translation they forgot to blanch them and the first batch was inedible.
Give the kitchen an "E" for effort, they did get them right the second time.

And finally, the BIG glitch. We were told back in July that Westerdam was
offering dinner at The Pinnacle Grill on the first night at half price so we
booked and paid for dinner for two at 7:30. When we reached our cabin we
found a note from the restaurant manager asking us to contact him. When we
did we were told that because a bunch of passengers who had stayed aboard
from the previous lag had booked they were oversold and could not
accommodate us. His only offer of compensation for the inconvenience was
that we could use the $20 we paid four months earlier as a partial payment
for dinner any other night. That didn't seem right then and doesn't seem
right now, but because we wanted to dine at Pinnacle we gave in, but I am
still angry about it.

"Glitches" are minor annoyances, and they DO add up, but given that what I
have mentioned took place over a 17 day cruise, and I'll get to what we
liked about the cruise after I do my laundry since I cannot find the number
around here for room service. :)
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
videomav...@comcast.net


clint

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Nov 30, 2004, 4:24:51 PM11/30/04
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Other than that Mrs Lincoln, did you enjoy the play?
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Fred

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Nov 30, 2004, 6:01:18 PM11/30/04
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Dick the Dick..........I missed you and danny


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Dick Goldhaber

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Nov 30, 2004, 9:16:21 PM11/30/04
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We booked a US Airways flight from Philadelphia to Madrid using FF miles to
upgrade to Envoy class, and then a connecting flight to Barcelona.

US Airways promised that they would have a "dog walker" meet us at the
gateway in Madrid to "empty" Heidi, who last relieved herself in Philly two
hours before we were scheduled to leave. They also promised that they would
have a "people carrier" to assist us to our connecting flight.

US Airways failed both tests, miserably.

Our flight from Philly left an hour late, supposedly because there was an
unattended dog in the baggage area. No such animal existed, but our two
hour window in Madrid suddenly became one.

Nobody met us in Madrid and suddenly we were on our own to deal with
immigration, where the agent they chose to deal with us PAX who were NOT
from the EU did NOT speak English.

With less than an hour to find our connecting flight, and in the wrong
terminal, there was no way for us to make the connection. All Danni wanted
was for us to go home.

But God is good, and somehow we got to the correct terminal, and to the
correct flight which just happened to be delayed until we got there, and
thus the three of us, and our luggage, made it to the AC Diplomatic hotel,
HAL's choice for the pre-cruise stay.

Gwen Love

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Nov 30, 2004, 9:26:57 PM11/30/04
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"Dick Goldhaber" <video...@comcast.netnojunk> wrote in message
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> Jason Venner, the cruise director on the inaugural Trans-Atlantic crossing
> of HAL's newest Vista Class ship said to assess the entire package and
give
> little mind to the occasional glitch. I'd really like to do that, but
there
> were far too many occasional glitches........and on and on and on....

I see Golddick hasn't changed a bit.....he can't be happy unless he's
bitching about something


anon

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Dec 1, 2004, 5:01:10 AM12/1/04
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Dick Goldhaber wrote:
>
> Our flight from Philly left an hour late, supposedly because there was an
> unattended dog in the baggage area. No such animal existed, but our two
> hour window in Madrid suddenly became one.

How did you find out there was no such dog in the baggage area?
Was this reported as a hoax? I mean, after all, passengers don't really
have access to the area were baggage is stored. So, why would the
airline tell you there was a dog loose, if there wasn't? What do you
think the real reason was?

>
> Nobody met us in Madrid and suddenly we were on our own to deal with
> immigration, where the agent they chose to deal with us PAX who were NOT
> from the EU did NOT speak English.

I have never had issues with immigration in any European country.
Why should the agent (you mean the immigration official, correct?)
speak English? Most people from outside of the EU do not speak English.

>
> With less than an hour to find our connecting flight, and in the wrong
> terminal, there was no way for us to make the connection. All Danni wanted
> was for us to go home.

What would have happened had you missed the connection flight?
There are quite a few flights between Madrid and Barcelona, as well as
the high speed trains.

You seem to complain alot for normal occurences, like an hour delay on a
flight to Europe, or immigration inspectors that don't speak English.

Leo Tick

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Dec 1, 2004, 7:11:41 AM12/1/04
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Doesn't sound too bad but what Band was playing and how were they?

Fred

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Dec 1, 2004, 8:33:37 AM12/1/04
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He's a jew. What did you expect? You can say anything you want about danny,
she, if it's a she, can't hear. The dog has the most going for it. Free
everything and can hump a leg anytime.

The Chairman


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Fred

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>
> You seem to complain alot for normal occurences, like an hour delay on a
> flight to Europe, or immigration inspectors that don't speak English.

I have addressed this issue in another post. He is a jew and humps the dog
and danny, not necessarily in that order, when ever he desires.

The Chairman


Geert Wilders

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Dec 1, 2004, 8:44:32 AM12/1/04
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"anon" <an...@anon.anon> wrote in message
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You must be new here. Goldhaber complains about EVERYTHING!!!!!!!


Evelyn Ruut

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Dec 1, 2004, 9:15:41 AM12/1/04
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"Fred" <Fredd...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> I have addressed this issue in another post. He is a jew and humps the dog
> and danny, not necessarily in that order, when ever he desires.
>
> The Chairman
>
>
Is this the same Danni Goldhaber who was arrested for pandering and general
prostitution in Pennsauken on October 16th?


Dorothy Clarkson

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Dec 1, 2004, 9:08:34 AM12/1/04
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This sounds like much do do about nothing. I"m sure thousands of passengers
make connections every day in Madrid without a "walker". Your review of US
Airways and your ship review make you sound like people who go on a trip and
say lets find things to complain about.

Can't you just sit back and enjoy the trip?


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Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 1, 2004, 12:01:44 PM12/1/04
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On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:15:41 -0500, Evelyn Ruut wrote:

> Is this the same Danni Goldhaber who was arrested for pandering and general
> prostitution in Pennsauken on October 16th?

Would you care to expound on this?

Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 1, 2004, 12:02:43 PM12/1/04
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Goldie, this isn't a review, this is a bitch session.

MM

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Dick Goldhaber

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"anon" <an...@anon.anon> wrote in message
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> How did you find out there was no such dog in the baggage area?


> Was this reported as a hoax? I mean, after all, passengers don't really
> have access to the area were baggage is stored. So, why would the
> airline tell you there was a dog loose, if there wasn't? What do you
> think the real reason was?

The original reason that was given for the delay was that someone had
checked luggage through but was not on the flight and therefore the luggage
had to be found and removed. A few minutes later we were told that they
"luggage" was actually a kenneled dog, although that also appears to be
untrue.

> I have never had issues with immigration in any European country.
> Why should the agent (you mean the immigration official, correct?)
> speak English? Most people from outside of the EU do not speak English.

We had no "issues" with immigration. We were just trying to find out how to
get to our connecting flight.

> What would have happened had you missed the connection flight?
> There are quite a few flights between Madrid and Barcelona, as well as
> the high speed trains.

Given that we had three days to get to Barcelona I am sure that we would
have been able to get there.

Fred

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Dec 1, 2004, 1:47:21 PM12/1/04
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You Got It


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Fred

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Dec 1, 2004, 1:48:49 PM12/1/04
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Hey Dick.......Shut Up..........Just Shut The -uck Up


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Fred

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You don't know www.dickdoesdannygoldhaber.com do you Dottie?


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Fred

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Dec 1, 2004, 1:56:16 PM12/1/04
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Question for dick head.............Being jewish do you celebrate Christmas
twice?


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Danni

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> Doesn't sound too bad but what Band was playing and how were they?

The cruise was fabulous.

The band was the Nick Ross Orchestra and they were very good. Although they
didn't play as much Glenn Miller as I would have liked. Several shows in
the main showroom and then dance music in various different venues including
poolside.


Dick Goldhaber

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Dec 2, 2004, 1:35:53 PM12/2/04
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Golly Judy, in the first note that I can ever find from you you posted a
link to this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer, and now you resort to language
unbecoming for a lady.

Neither Danni nor I have ever claimed that Danni is deaf. I guess you must
have read that somewhere else and believed it to be true.


--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
videomav...@comcast.net


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> "Danni" <dann...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > The band was the Nick Ross Orchestra and they were very good. Although
> they
> > didn't play as much Glenn Miller as I would have liked. Several shows
in
> > the main showroom and then dance music in various different venues
> including
> > poolside.
> >

> Why do you give a flying fuck who the band was? You're deaf, remember?
Or
> did you make that up, too?
>
>


Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 2, 2004, 10:35:25 AM12/2/04
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:57:18 -0500, Judith B. Greenberger wrote:

>>> Is this the same Danni Goldhaber who was arrested for pandering and
> general
>>> prostitution in Pennsauken on October 16th?
>>
>> Would you care to expound on this?
>

> http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new_jersey/camden_county/10.18.04/cgi-bin/arrest/local/goldhaber.html

Just cut and paste the article. Search came up empty.

Danni

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"Chrissy Cruiser" <doubleb...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:47:02 -0500, Danni wrote:
>
>> The cruise was fabulous.
>
> I'm glad you enjoyed yourself. There is a nasty rumor floating around that
> you were picked up for pandering and prostitution recently. Care to
> comment?

Sure, that weekend I was in Chicago at a conference......a long way from
Pennsauken. I wasn't arrested in Chicago either. : )


Dick Goldhaber

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"Chrissy Cruiser" <doubleb...@mail.com> wrote in message
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and that came as a surprise to you? Were you also shocked that Ms.
Greenberger had never posted here before now?

Fred

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"Danny" <dann...@comcast.net> Still hot and dripping from dancing with her
Daddy wrote in message news:AP-dndBSNLm...@comcast.com...

>
> "Leo Tick" <ti...@cs.nyu.edu> wrote in message
> news:0yird.1$Va5....@typhoon.nyu.edu...
>> Doesn't sound too bad but what Band was playing and how were they?
>

> The cruise was fabulous and Daddy was great.


>
> The band was the Nick Ross Orchestra and they were very good. Although

> they didn't play as much Glenn Miller as I would have liked, but it got us
> horny. Several shows in the main showroom and then dance music in various
> different venues including poolside was all it took. The dog got an eye
> full that night. I am so glad Daddy was there to hear it all for me.
>

Chrissy Cruiser

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Gerald Newton

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"Karen Segboer" <karens...@cupcaked.com> wrote in message
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> "Dick Goldhaber" <video...@comcast.netnojunk> wrote:
>
> >Neither Danni nor I have ever claimed that Danni is deaf. I guess you
must
> >have read that somewhere else and believed it to be true.
>
> Then why the need for Heidi? I have always believed Danni was
> deaf/hearing impaired based on YOUR own postings to this newsgroup!
>
> Karen
>
Heidi is just a prop to elicit sympathy and to let them go to the head of
the lines. And also to serve as an additional sex partner for Dick.


Ray Froelich

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Dec 2, 2004, 11:14:21 PM12/2/04
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>From: "Gerald Newton" pis...@yahoo.com

>Heidi is just a prop to elicit sympathy and to let them go to the head of

>the lines. And also yada yada yada more FreddyP bull$hit

Here is yet another sick attempt from Fat FreddyP to discredit Dick and Danni.

But he does know how to pick an e-mail address.

Charles

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Dec 2, 2004, 8:21:11 PM12/2/04
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In article <41b1bcb5...@news.optonline.com>, Karen Segboer
<karens...@cupcaked.com> wrote:

> Then why the need for Heidi? I have always believed Danni was
> deaf/hearing impaired based on YOUR own postings to this newsgroup!

He said she was not deaf. He did not say she was not hearing impaired.
Also hearing impaired means just that, impaired. It might not mean 100%
loss. I think I recall him posting that she had a little hearing left.

--
Charles

Fred

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Dec 2, 2004, 7:25:23 PM12/2/04
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Dick Head got bitch slapped by another jew. I thought you guys got along and
were tight.

Freddy The Chairman


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Stephanie

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> You don't know www.dickdoesdannygoldhaber.com do you Dottie?

Is that anything like www.freddydoesHISdaughter.com ?

Danni

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"Karen Segboer" <karens...@cupcaked.com> wrote in message
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> Then why the need for Heidi? I have always believed Danni was
> deaf/hearing impaired based on YOUR own postings to this newsgroup!
>

Not that I need to justify anything, but I am hearing impaired. Thus the
need for Heidi.

Of course, the moron who questioned why I went to a concert obviously
believes that the deaf and hearing impaired sit around their homes twiddling
their thumbs, never watching TV or enjoying music of any kind.

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Dick Goldhaber

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Dec 2, 2004, 10:56:08 PM12/2/04
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Thank you, Charles. At least someone here has a clue about what I have been
saying all along.

--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
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Chrissy Cruiser

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>>>
> http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/new_jersey/camden_count
> y/10.18.04/cgi-bin/arrest/local/goldhaber.html
>>
>> Just cut and paste the article. Search came up empty.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:20:27 -0500, Dick Goldhaber wrote:

> and that came as a surprise to you?

I would neither be surprised if the article existed or it did not.

> Were you also shocked that Ms.
> Greenberger had never posted here before now?

What has that got to do with anything?

Fred

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"Danni" <dann...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Of course, the moron who questioned why I went to a concert obviously
> believes that the deaf and hearing impaired sit around their homes
> twiddling their thumbs, never watching TV or enjoying music of any kind.
>
You just sit on your fat flabby ass and make threats. Your mother must have
been a strong woman to put up with you two assholes. You two most likely are
the reason she is dead and not from diabetes as you claim.

I bet she knew your daddy was humping your leg and reading you bed time
storys. Poor woman had a stroke. You and daddy are going to rot in hell for
those porn movies the videomaven made of you and that poor dog.

Your Pal Freddy
What else can I say to get you to visit me you slut.


Fred

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Dec 2, 2004, 7:21:55 PM12/2/04
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But the board of health is investigating your slut ass.

Come to me my little Danny.....I want you

Freddy


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Chrissy Cruiser

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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:35:53 -0500, Dick Goldhaber wrote:

> Golly Judy, in the first note that I can ever find from you you posted a
> link to this morning's Philadelphia Inquirer, and now you resort to language
> unbecoming for a lady.

Clean your own daughter's mouth first, Goldie, before you criticize anyone
else.

Fred

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Dec 2, 2004, 7:23:00 PM12/2/04
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That was great Judy............I just peed myself ....LOL

Freddy


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> "Danni" <dann...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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>>
>>
>> The band was the Nick Ross Orchestra and they were very good. Although
> they
>> didn't play as much Glenn Miller as I would have liked. Several shows in
>> the main showroom and then dance music in various different venues
> including
>> poolside.
>>

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Fred

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:27:55 AM12/3/04
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Karen, Am I missing something?

>>> Then why the need for Heidi? I have always believed Danny was


>>> deaf/hearing impaired based on YOUR own postings to this newsgroup!

The question was never answered. A sympatric response was given here.

>>Not that I need to justify anything, but I am hearing impaired. Thus the
>>need for Heidi.

Is this a play on words?

hear·ing-im·paired (hīrng-m-pārd)
adj.
1.. Having a diminished or defective sense of hearing, but not deaf;
hard of hearing.
2.. Completely incapable of hearing; deaf.

n. (used with a pl. verb)
Persons who are deficient in hearing or are deaf. Used with the: The
hearing-impaired are provided with special services at school.

So as they say, You be the Judge.

Keeping that in mind, I would believe that the use of the mutt/dog would
only benefit the owner/owners with those *special services*. Sort of like
having one of those blue tags on your rear view mirror, so on a
rainy/snowy/cold day you can park up front kind of special service. Say that
three times fast.

Fred


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> "Danni" <dann...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Karen Segboer" <karens...@cupcaked.com> wrote in message
>>news:41b1bcb5...@news.optonline.com...
>>> Then why the need for Heidi? I have always believed Danni was
>>> deaf/hearing impaired based on YOUR own postings to this newsgroup!
>>>
>>
>>Not that I need to justify anything, but I am hearing impaired. Thus the
>>need for Heidi.
>

> No, Danni, you certainly don't need to "justify" anything at all, but
> I'm wondering if anyone else was confused by the way your father
> always presented your condition, especially when discussing your
> service dog on your cruises.
>
> Thank you for at least being more unambiguous than he's been.
>
> Karen
>
>
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Fred

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"Ray Froelich" <rayfr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Ray Baby

Do a search on these two before you take sides asshole. I'll be the first to
back off if you can prove I am discrediting them. So go for it you fool.
This also goes for anyone else who proves me wrong. I will even kiss both
thier ass's at high noon if I'm wrong. What to hell, I'm so sure you can
even add in the dog.

The Chair has spoken yet again


Ray Froelich

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Dec 3, 2004, 3:25:09 PM12/3/04
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>From: "Fred" Fredd...@cox.net

>Ray Baby
>
>Do a search on these two before you take sides asshole. I'll be the first to
>back off if you can prove I am discrediting them. So go for it you fool.
>This also goes for anyone else who proves me wrong. I will even kiss both
>thier ass's at high noon if I'm wrong. What to hell, I'm so sure you can
>even add in the dog.
>
>The Chair has spoken yet again

Well, Fred, pucker up.

On your suggestion, I did a Google search of the father/daughter duo. All I
saw was a lot of rumor and innuendo; nothing of any substance. Most of the
posts were by one person who, it would appear, the Goldhabers sued. Since that
individual has ceased his attacks on them, one can assume that the Goldhabers
won.

Just for fun I did a background check on both of them. Two different addresses
and phone numbers and not even so much as a parking ticket for either of them.


As for your assertion that the daughter uses the dog for sympathy, sorry to
tell you that you are wrong there as well. Those programs don't just hand out
dogs to anyone. There are pretty stringent guidelines regarding who receives
one. Obviously, she met them.

I also did a Google search on you. You have attacked at least two of the TAs
who post here; getting somewhat personal on more than one occasion. You have
attacked several of the women who post here; getting quite nasty on more than
one occasion. You've made more than a few comments that could be considered
politically incorrect.

So, let's see. Who should I believe? A father and daughter who have nothing
to indicate even the slightest bit of impropriety? Or you, who have done
nothing but repeat unsubstantiated rumor?

Like I said, Fred, pucker up. Looks like you have quite a bit of butt kissing
to do.

Gerald Newton

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Dec 3, 2004, 4:30:10 PM12/3/04
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Ray Froelich wrote:

>
> As for your assertion that the daughter uses the dog for sympathy, sorry to
> tell you that you are wrong there as well.

Dear asshole Ray:

You are not as fuckin' smart as you think you are. Fred NEVER asserted
that the daughter uses the dog for sympathy. I did. And I sure as hell
am not Fred, FreddyP, or anything close.

Get your act together before you try telling people what to do.

Ray Froelich

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Dec 3, 2004, 5:27:40 PM12/3/04
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>From: Gerald Newton pis...@yahoo.com

>Dear <snip> Ray:

>You are not as <snip> smart as you think you are. Fred NEVER asserted

>that the daughter uses the dog for sympathy. I did. And I sure as hell
>am not Fred, FreddyP, or anything close.

>Get your act together before you try telling people what to do.

Gerald:

Fine. Then YOU were wrong. YOUR allegation that the girl uses the dog for
sympathy was erroneous.

Do you feel vindicated? Is your status as an idiot secure?

Fred

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Dec 3, 2004, 6:46:55 PM12/3/04
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"Ray Froelich" <rayfr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I have a pretty good rap sheet, wouldn't you say? You had better go back to
the google school of research. You missed the one where Dick Head admitted
he sleeps with her. You missed the one where the slut admits that that is
the only way she knows when to get up.

Well Ray Baby, I guess your a bigger asshole than Dick Head is or your one
in the same.

We will reconvene later I am sure
I have spoken yet again


Fred

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Dec 3, 2004, 6:47:51 PM12/3/04
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"Gerald Newton" <pis...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Please........There can only be one of me on RTC


Fred

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"Ray Froelich" <rayfr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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As I stated before......One in the same.....An asshole is an asshole and
will always be an asshole.

Give it a rest Ray Baby


Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:30:20 PM12/3/04
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Well, lookee here, Goldie and/or Danni TROLLING under a fake name. How do I
know this for sure? Here is "Stephanie's" IP and posting info:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.44.149.145
X-Complaints-To: ab...@comcast.net

Now here is Goldie Goldhaber's et al IP and posting info:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.44.149.145
X-Complaints-To: ab...@comcast.net

BUSTED YOU HYPOCRITICAL PIECE OF CRAP.

Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:35:36 PM12/3/04
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 01:43:25 GMT, Karen Segboer wrote:

>>Not that I need to justify anything, but I am hearing impaired. Thus the
>>need for Heidi.
>

> No, Danni, you certainly don't need to "justify" anything at all, but
> I'm wondering if anyone else was confused by the way your father
> always presented your condition, especially when discussing your
> service dog on your cruises.
>
> Thank you for at least being more unambiguous than he's been.
>
> Karen

It appears that Goldie is a liar. Imagine that. He's lied about his
daughter's incapacity or maybe they are both liars looking for some kind of
sympathy patch.

Or, better yet, has anyone ever seen a picture of both of them? Is there
any evidence that a Dick and Danni Goldhaber even exist?

Taken into account that I caught the Goldies' damn dead to rights TROLLING
under a false name (Stephanie), what other surprises can we expect?

Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:36:32 PM12/3/04
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 22:56:08 -0500, Dick Goldhaber wrote:

> Thank you, Charles. At least someone here has a clue about what I have been
> saying all along.

Shut up, Stephanie, just shut up.

Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:37:26 PM12/3/04
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On 03 Dec 2004 04:14:21 GMT, Ray Froelich wrote:

> Here is yet another sick attempt from Fat FreddyP to discredit Dick and Danni.

No need to try anymore. "Stephanie" Goldhaber has done them in.

Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:39:28 PM12/3/04
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On 03 Dec 2004 20:25:09 GMT, Ray Froelich wrote:

> Just for fun I did a background check on both of them. Two different addresses
> and phone numbers and not even so much as a parking ticket for either of them.

You did? Under what authority did you do this? How did you legally obtain
their SSN's?

While you're at it, do mine and post the results otherwise your just
another liar or a felon, take your pick.

Ray Froelich

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Dec 3, 2004, 7:40:59 PM12/3/04
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>From: "Fred" Fredd...@cox.net

>I have a pretty good rap sheet, wouldn't you say? You had better go back to
>the google school of research. You missed the one where Dick Head admitted
>he sleeps with her. You missed the one where the slut admits that that is
>the only way she knows when to get up.
>
>Well Ray Baby, I guess your a bigger asshole than Dick Head is or your one
>in the same.
>
>We will reconvene later I am sure
>I have spoken yet again

Fred:

I believe it is you who have the reading comprehension problem. Or, just the
need to "spank the monkey" while you fantasize about things that just aren't
true.

If you are so convinced that these posts exist, post the links to them. No cut
and paste now. Links to the original posts. Nothing less will do.

Fred

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Dec 3, 2004, 8:08:48 PM12/3/04
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Thanks..............LOL

"Chrissy Cruiser" <doubleb...@mail.com> wrote in message

news:8s25ns5zvq4t.1p...@40tude.net...

Fred

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Dec 3, 2004, 8:24:24 PM12/3/04
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"Ray Froelich" <rayfr...@aol.com> wrote in message
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You got a lot of balls calling me Fred. Did you forget how to spell Fat
FreddyP or FreddyP Bullshit. I do not have to prove anything. You say I am
discrediting them. Show your evidence. It is you who are going blind from
jerking off and you who fantasize on being the one who chases me out of
town. Well Ray Baby.....Shut the Fuck Up Show Your Cards or Fold.

I hate it when I'm right


Ray Froelich

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Dec 3, 2004, 9:27:39 PM12/3/04
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>From: Chrissy Cruiser doubleb...@mail.com

>You did? Under what authority did you do this? How did you legally obtain
>their SSN's?
>
>While you're at it, do mine and post the results otherwise your just
>another liar or a felon, take your pick.

It was easy, CC. Any of the people search websites will give you access. All
you need is the name and State and the ability to pay for it. Social Security
numbers are optional.

Merry Christmas

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Dec 4, 2004, 2:49:26 AM12/4/04
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Chrissy Cruiser wrote:

You don't need their SSN to find conviction information, I doubt if any
of the search companies could find their parking tickets, but I may be
wrong. Knowing their approximate age, address, etc, you can find their
birthdates and other things. Try www.intelius.com. For $8.95, I gave
them just a name and found family member names, ages, birthdates, phone
numbers, and a report on the average income/home value for their
neighborhood. I did this because some law firm in Texas sued me for
property taxes because I once used to live in a large area not too far
from the location of the property, as the person who actually bought the
property. However, the information they used in the suit didn't use the
middle name, just the initial. The last name had one missing character
than how my name is spelt. I called the attorney and had fix the suit.
However, I email the information I had to every partner in the firm, and
told them how poor their research was. I may send them a demand letter
for the $8.95. :)

Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 4, 2004, 11:07:15 AM12/4/04
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>>While you're at it, do mine and post the results otherwise your just
>>another liar or a felon, take your pick.

On 04 Dec 2004 02:27:39 GMT, Ray Froelich wrote:

> It was easy, CC. Any of the people search websites will give you access. All
> you need is the name and State and the ability to pay for it. Social Security
> numbers are optional.

Without a SSN, you have no verifier and the info that you get from these
pay-for sites are notoriously inaccurate.

Chrissy Cruiser

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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 07:49:26 GMT, Merry Christmas wrote:

> The last name had one missing character
> than how my name is spelt. I called the attorney and had fix the suit.
> However, I email the information I had to every partner in the firm, and
> told them how poor their research was. I may send them a demand letter
> for the $8.95. :)

Hope you get it back, Santa.

michelle

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Dec 4, 2004, 1:49:55 PM12/4/04
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"Chrissy Cruiser" <doubleb...@mail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 01:43:25 GMT, Karen Segboer wrote:
>
>>
> Or, better yet, has anyone ever seen a picture of both of them? Is there
> any evidence that a Dick and Danni Goldhaber even exist?
>
I've seen a picture of the father on some kind of website connected with
alt.vacations.las-vegas. But then, just because there was a picture there
doesn't mean that it was actually him. BTW, he had some dumb looking Van
Dyke beard in the photo and he didn't have a big nose.


Gerald Newton

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Dec 4, 2004, 1:59:28 PM12/4/04
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Ray Froelich wrote:
>>From: Gerald Newton pis...@yahoo.com
>
>
>>Dear <snip> Ray:
>
>
>>You are not as <snip> smart as you think you are. Fred NEVER asserted
>>that the daughter uses the dog for sympathy. I did. And I sure as hell
>>am not Fred, FreddyP, or anything close.
>
>
>>Get your act together before you try telling people what to do.
>
>
> Gerald:
>
> Fine. Then YOU were wrong. YOUR allegation that the girl uses the dog for
> sympathy was erroneous.
>

It's not an allegation. The big two legged bitch uses the small four
legged bitch for sympathy. Period. End of story.

BTW- Who appointed you Net Cop? Or is that just part of your Nazi
heritage showing through?

Message has been deleted

Fred

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Dec 4, 2004, 9:14:32 PM12/4/04
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"michelle" <wild...@netsolutions.net> wrote in message
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Then it was not Dick Head. All jews have big noses.


Dick Goldhaber

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Dec 4, 2004, 10:31:13 PM12/4/04
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Good grief, Michelle, while my daughter is hearing impaired, my reputation
is in the hands of a stupid blind woman who never posted until yesterday and
who can't determine that I don't have any kind of "dumb looking" facial hair
at all.

Stick your pig snout shiksa nose a little further up Michelle McDonald's
well worked ass as you seem to really enjoy the smell and taste.
--
DG in Cherry Hill, NJ
videomav...@comcast.net


"michelle" <wild...@netsolutions.net> wrote in message
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>

Fred

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Dec 5, 2004, 7:04:48 AM12/5/04
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Now I know where the slut gets it from. I am sure it wasn't Debbie, or was
it?

BTW dick head.........did you tell the slut not to come and visit me?

Fat Freddy

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Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 5, 2004, 8:54:00 AM12/5/04
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On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 22:31:13 -0500, Dick Goldhaber wrote:

> Good grief, Michelle, while my daughter is hearing impaired, my reputation
> is in the hands of a stupid blind woman who never posted until yesterday and
> who can't determine that I don't have any kind of "dumb looking" facial hair
> at all.
>
> Stick your pig snout shiksa nose a little further up Michelle McDonald's
> well worked ass as you seem to really enjoy the smell and taste.

The filth doesn't fall to far from the tree, does it "Stephanie"?

Chrissy Cruiser

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Dec 5, 2004, 8:59:42 AM12/5/04
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On 4 Dec 2004 22:04:30 -0000, Stephanie wrote:

>> Or, better yet, has anyone ever seen a picture of both of them? Is
> there
>> any evidence that a Dick and Danni Goldhaber even exist?
>>
>> I've seen a picture of the father on some kind of website connected
>> with
>> alt.vacations.las-vegas. But then, just because there was a picture
>> there
>> doesn't mean that it was actually him. BTW, he had some dumb
>> looking Van
>> Dyke beard in the photo and he didn't have a big nose.
>

> http://www.urbanphotos.net/images/avlv/dg.jpg

Hm. This is the guy who fakes posts under the Comcast ISP as "Stephanie"?

michelle

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"Chrissy Cruiser" <doubleb...@mail.com> wrote in message
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Yes, that's the photo I was talking about. Maybe it's just a shadow, I don't
know, but it looks like a scruffy little beard to me. Or it could be a
stain from where he was rubbing his face on the dog's ass.


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