Small Ship Cruise Line Announces Special Offers for Winter Caribbean Sailings
John Sisker
We received this from the trades and thought it would be of interest to this
newsgroup as well.
Happy sailing,
John Sisker, SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-3850 or toll free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency No. 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com
WARREN, R.I., Nov. 29
American Canadian Caribbean Line, Inc. (ACCL), a family-operated small ship
cruise line that caters to active mature travelers, announces savings of
$500 per person on four 11-night select winter 2008 Caribbean cruises with
an additional holiday savings offer for single travelers this December.
Passengers can make warm holiday memories traveling from Nassau to
Providenciales by small ship on the Beach Lover's Bahamas (December 22,
2007) 11-night cruise, popular with independent travelers. ACCL announces a
special singles occupancy savings offer only on this holiday trip so single
travelers can enjoy the same price as those who travel with others. ACCL
single guests especially enjoy the camaraderie that only a small
family-operated vessel can offer.
Four ACCL winter 2008 cruises are priced with a savings of $500 per person
(ranging from $2970 - $3795 per person, double occupancy). In addition to
the Beach Lover's Bahamas cruise, travelers can choose from three Caribbean
itineraries to explore some of the most unspoiled areas of this region as
follows:
The Bahamian Out Islands (March 14, 2008) 11-night cruise features visits to
Harbour Island's famous pink sand beaches and pastel-painted houses, Staniel
Cay known for "Thunderball Grotto" of Bond film fame, along with Warderick
Wells Cay, the most popular cay in the Exuma Cays Land and Sea Park,
offering four miles of trails leading to rare plants, caves and wells.
The beauty and serenity of unspoiled beaches can also be experienced on
ACCL's Yachtsman's Virgin Islands (January 12, 2008 and February 23, 2008)
11- night cruise featuring visits to St. Thomas, St. John, Tortola, and
Norman Island, said to be the "Treasure Island" of Robert Louis Stevenson's
novel. Visit the extraordinary grotto at Virgin Gorda or snorkel one of the
world's largest coral reefs at Anegada. One can also explore the amazing
underwater world via ACCL's exclusive glass-bottom launch.
The Lesser Antilles are featured in the Treasures of the Leeward Isles
(January 27, 2008 and February 9, 2008) cruise. Discover the beauty of the
British West Indies, French West Indies and Netherland Antilles on this 11-
night cruise offering quiet diversion and outstanding natural and historical
sites.
American Canadian Caribbean Line also offers a willing-to-share program,
which is very popular with single travelers. This allows an opportunity for
a guest to pay a double occupancy rate if they are open to the possibility
of sharing a cabin with another single who opts for the willing-to-share
program. Contact ACCL for details.
ACCL evolved from the family vacations of the late famed shipbuilder, Capt.
Luther H. Blount (1916-2006), who built many of the ferries and dinner boats
operating in U.S. cities today. ACCL's vessels are his unique design
allowing up to 100 guests to explore waterways where big boats simply cannot
access, earning Capt. Blount the respect in the industry as the originator
of small ship cruising.
The M/V Grande Mariner, which is servicing the itineraries this winter, is
an expedition-style small ship featuring a unique shallow-draft that allows
the vessel to land right up on the beach. The patented bow ramp offers
accessibility from ship to beach where often the gentle footsteps in the
sand are only those of ACCL's guests.
For 40 years, ACCL has captured the spirit of its original voyages with a
nostalgic and casual approach that features unique itineraries along the
coasts of the U.S., Canada and parts of the Caribbean and Central America.
"Small ship cruising, especially in the Caribbean, is an unforgettable
experience," states Nancy Blount, president of ACCL and daughter of Capt.
Blount. "It is exciting to discover isolated tropical inlets usually only
visited by private yachts."
ACCL Reservation Team Members are available to offer assistance Monday
through Friday, 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (EST) by calling 800.556.7450. ACCL's
full 2008 schedule is available online at http://www.accl-smallships.com.
American Canadian Caribbean Line, Inc. (ACCL) is a small ship cruise line
founded in 1966 by accomplished shipbuilder and designer Capt. Luther H.
Blount (1916-2006), now owned by his family. The company operates two U.S.
registered and U.S. crewed ships along the eastern seaboards of the U.S.,
Canada, Caribbean, and Central America. Each ship features patented designs
that enable them to access remote destinations larger ships cannot. ACCL is
located at 461 Water Street, Warren, RI 02885. Phone: (800) 556-7450. Web
site: http://www.accl-smallships.com.
Mike
work out of a document on the internet, post it as coming from one of
the mystical trades (whatever that is) and post it with your
advertisement. Not only do you plagiarize someone's work but you then
violate the charter of the ng by posting your advertisement. Then you
wonder why people complain and harass you. Play by the rules John and
give credit to other people's work.
James
"Mike" <mi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> See, this is what I was talking about John. You plucked someone else's
> work out of a document on the internet, post it as coming from one of the
> mystical trades (whatever that is) and post it with your advertisement.
> Not only do you plagiarize someone's work but you then violate the charter
> of the ng by posting your advertisement. Then you wonder why people
> complain and harass you. Play by the rules John and give credit to other
> people's work.
>
>
> John Sisker wrote:
>> To Whom It May Concern:
>>
>> We received this from the trades and thought it would be of interest to
>> this newsgroup as well.
>>
>> Happy sailing,
>> John Sisker, SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
>> (714) 536-3850 or toll free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency No. 714.536.3850)
>> www.shiptoshorecruise.com
>>
>>
>>
allowed, by charter and Jean, to advertise in this newsgroup.
Bo...@theclown.com
says...
> See, this is what I was talking about John. You plucked someone else's
> work out of a document on the internet,
it's a fucking press release, idiot.
> post it as coming from one of
> the mystical trades (whatever that is)
It's a fucking press release.
> and post it with your
> advertisement.
Only Googleberg is allowed to do that here.
> Not only do you plagiarize someone's work
How does one plagiarize a press release?
> but you then
> violate the charter of the ng by posting your advertisement.
4 line 'sigs' are allowed by the charter.
See any of Googleberg's posts for clarification.
> Then you
> wonder why people complain and harass you. Play by the rules John and
> give credit to other people's work.
Chicken or egg?
John Sisker
I did not comment on this before, since 'another' seemed to do such a good
job for me. However, of late, this same type of misguided thinking has
indeed surfaced from a few others, so perhaps now a few comments are in
order.
First of all, and as pointed out to you, this is a press release, and while
indeed from the 'trades' the actual source of this press release was
actually pointed out in the body copy of the article - not once, but twice.
Likewise, at two different locations within the article itself, links were
provide to the American Canadian Caribbean Line, Inc. (ACCL) Website, which
is entirely acceptable by Charter because it is not just a link back to
myself.
And, speaking of links, a 4-line signature is indeed allowed, also by
Charter, including a link to my own agency Website. Just look at Goldenberg
and Leppla for example, they do that all the time - which is allowed. In
addition, a press release is not plagiarism, it is a press release for God's
sake. And just for future reference anything found online, unless expressly
copyrighted, rights affixed and/or reserved, can be used as information in a
post, e-mail, Website, etc., without formal attribution.
The bottom line is, no violations of any kind have occurred here; just your
incorrect speculations. I suggest you get your fact right next time, before
you start accusing others of such things.
John
"Mike" <mi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Kurt Ullman
"John Sisker" <jsi...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> And, speaking of links, a 4-line signature is indeed allowed, also by
> Charter, including a link to my own agency Website. Just look at Goldenberg
> and Leppla for example, they do that all the time - which is allowed. In
> addition, a press release is not plagiarism, it is a press release for God's
> sake. And just for future reference anything found online, unless expressly
> copyrighted, rights affixed and/or reserved, can be used as information in a
> post, e-mail, Website, etc., without formal attribution.
>
Not hardly. Under US copyright and the various copyright conventions
something is copyrighted and protected the second it created. Period. No
ifs and or buts. These are independent of any expression of copyright,
etc. You can use parts under Fair Use and there a couple of implied
consent for copy the whole thing (not the least of which is the form of
a press release. But as to the rest you are flat out incorrect.
is not necessary to have a notice of copyright (i.e.: © 1997 Jane Doe)
for material to be copyright protected in the U.S. Once something
tangible is produced, text, graphics, music, video, etc., it is
automatically copyrighted. Sound recordings and some other property use
other copyright symbols. Anyone can use the copyright symbol on her or
his original work.
The Internet and Copyright:
"The Internet has been characterized as the largest threat to copyright
since its inception. The Internet is awash in information, a lot of it
with varying degrees of copyright protection. Copyrighted works on the
Net include new s stories, software, novels, screenplays, graphics,
pictures, Usenet messages and even email. In fact, the frightening
reality is that almost everything on the Net is protected by copyright
law. That can pose problems for the hapless surfer." ("The Copyright Web
site" http://www.benedict.com/)
>
John Sisker
interpretation to this type of text book data, this was originally nothing
more than a press release to begin with, which now does put this in a
slightly different category. And for future reference, apparently based on
the internal limitations of a newsgroup, plus the actual intent and confines
of the material itself, there is apparently some degree of disagreement. I
think the key words here, besides press release, are "limitations" and
"intent." As an example, my entire Website is copyrighted, simply because
that is designed and meant for worldwide distribution.
Happy sailing,
John Sisker, SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY (sm)
Kurt Ullman
"John Sisker" <jsi...@sprynet.com> wrote:
> Thanks Kurt for the clarification. It has been noted. However, as a slight
> interpretation to this type of text book data, this was originally nothing
> more than a press release to begin with, which now does put this in a
> slightly different category. And for future reference, apparently based on
> the internal limitations of a newsgroup, plus the actual intent and confines
> of the material itself, there is apparently some degree of disagreement.
And I did, and continue, to wholeheartedly and legally agree with
your take that press releases are fair game.
RsH
wrote:
A clarification is in order, since this is a Usenet group, and I, not
located in the U.S., couldn't give a fig for the U.S. interpretation
of Copyright Law, which, incidentally, goes far beyond the Bern
Convention on Copyright.
For example, extending copyright back to 1923 is ONLY applicable in
the U.S. and goes against the International treaties covering
copyright. However, as stated, press releases are fair game, since
they are intended to be widely disseminated.
In Canada copyright only goes back 50 years [with consideration of the
life of the author as well so it could be longer] but NOT back 85
years, so be careful when spouting U.S. copyright law in a Usenet
Group, which is truly international in scope, and NOT subject to U.S.
copyright law except to U.S. posters.
That having been said, retention of this message in violation of
Canadian Privacy Laws will be prosecuted <grin>, and I suspect that
there is not one in 1000 in the U.S. who knows what Canadian Privacy
Laws cover [or Canadian Copyright Law, etcetera].
Kurt Ullman
RsH <r...@idirect.com> wrote:
>
>
> A clarification is in order, since this is a Usenet group, and I, not
> located in the U.S., couldn't give a fig for the U.S. interpretation
> of Copyright Law, which, incidentally, goes far beyond the Bern
> Convention on Copyright.
But most of what we are talking about within the confines of Usenet
groups, etc. stems from the Bern Convention. While you make some good
point overall, don't how they fit in with the specifics.
>
> That having been said, retention of this message in violation of
> Canadian Privacy Laws will be prosecuted <grin>, and I suspect that
> there is not one in 1000 in the U.S. who knows what Canadian Privacy
> Laws cover [or Canadian Copyright Law, etcetera].
Of course since I am not in Canada(g).
Phil
>
> And, speaking of links, a 4-line signature is indeed allowed, also by
> Charter, including a link to my own agency Website. .
>
> John
>
John:
You are wrong, again!
The Charter does not say anything about "a 4-line signature is indeed
allowed, also by the charter,"
It is the Big 8 of the usenet that allows for a 4 line sig file. No
where in the charter does it say this. If you are going to post the
rules and where you got them then please post them correctly, not the
way you see them.
Phil
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John Sisker
nitpicking; chercher du poli aux oeufs, meaning to look for hair on
eggshells. Get back to me only when you have something of value to say.
John
Phil
You just don't get it do you? You love to nitpick and change topics in
threads and yet when people turn the table on you and catch you red
handed you try and come up with some smart ass remark to try and dig you
self out. Just admit that you made a mistake and move on.
You are telling people where the information is and your wrong. If your
going to Quote the Charter for this newsgroup then quote it correctly
that is all that is being asked.This only adds to a credibility problem
you are having by once again giving out the wrong information.
Don't try and make it up as you go as you have proved you are not very
good at it.
North of 60
Actually, John, "chercher du poli aux oeufs" means "looking for the
polish (or shine) on eggs".
So not only can you not read a charter, you can't read french, either.
North of 60
John Sisker
you are keeper of the Charter, right? So you should know. For what it is
worth, it is not the Charter itself that says anything about "a 4-line
signature is indeed allowed," but apparently the Big 8 of the Usenet
instead. In either case, it is allowed, right? Therefore, somewhere the
Charter must referrer to the Big 8 for this apparent tie-in, or how would
one know? Yet, what I was simply pointing out before was, this seems to be
rather a trivial point to go to all this name-calling on just to prove such
a minor point. I certainly have better things to do. I would have thought
that you did as well.
Happy sailing Phil,
John Sisker
which does mean hair. Whether it's poil (hair) or poli (polish), it seems
that Phil is still looking for the hair or polish on eggs.
Happy sailing,
John Sisker, SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY®
(714) 536-3850 or toll free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency No. 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com
>> John
Tom K
"John Sisker" <jsi...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
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> Have it your way Phil. Indeed, I was incorrect, you are right. After all,
> you are keeper of the Charter, right? So you should know. For what it is
> worth, it is not the Charter itself that says anything about "a 4-line
> signature is indeed allowed," but apparently the Big 8 of the Usenet
> instead. In either case, it is allowed, right? Therefore, somewhere the
> Charter must referrer to the Big 8 for this apparent tie-in, or how would
> one know? Yet, what I was simply pointing out before was, this seems to be
> rather a trivial point to go to all this name-calling on just to prove
> such a minor point. I certainly have better things to do. I would have
> thought that you did as well.
Careful Phil, he may retract you as an "allowable" prospective client, like
he did with Charles and Me.
Not that I'd ever consider booking with him...
--Tom
Phil
Like I am worried.
As I am from Canada I would only use a US TA if it were for a group
cruise. I don't think John will be doing any group cruises for RTC any
time soon. So I am pretty safe.
James
"Phil" <webm...@seacruisechat.con> wrote in message
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James
"Phil" <webm...@seacruisechat.con> wrote in message
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'Phil the Keeper' is a canuck. Who would've guessed?
Phil
Not you.