Travel to Canada via Cruise Ship
Ed Burke
leaving a US port and returning to US port for cruises to Canada. The trip
is on 08/01/09...are passports required for all passengers or is a birth
certificate along with a government issued picture ID required?
Thanks for your response...
maryd
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A search on the US Department of State's web site at:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html produced the
following:
CURRENTLY:
All U.S. citizens must show proof of identity and proof of U.S. citizenship
when entering the United States from Canada, Mexico, Bermuda and the
countries of the Caribbean by land or sea.
Acceptable documents include: U.S. Passport Book, U.S. Passport Card, or
other document approved by the Department of Homeland Security.
U.S. citizens who do not have a single document verifying identity and
citizenship must present both an identification and citizenship document;
for example, a driver's license and a copy of a birth certificate or
naturalization certificate.
LATER:
On June 1, 2009, the U.S. government will implement the full requirements of
the land and sea phase of WHTI. The proposed rules require most U.S.
citizens entering the United States at sea or land ports of entry to have a
passport, passport card, or other travel document approved by the Department
of Homeland Security.
CHILDREN: U.S. citizen children under the age of 16 will be able to present
the original or copy of their birth certificate, or other proof of U.S.
citizenship such as a naturalization certificate or citizenship card.
Groups of U.S. citizen children ages 16 through 18, when traveling with a
school or religious group, social organization, or sports team, will be able
to enter under adult supervision with originals or copies of their birth
certificates or other proof of citizenship. See the Department of Homeland
Security's GetYouHome.gov for more information on the changing travel
requirements.
U.S. PASSPORT AND WHTI COMPLIANT DOCUMENTS:
U.S. Passport: U.S. citizens may present a valid U.S. passport to enter or
re-enter the United States when traveling via air, land or sea from Canada,
Mexico, the Caribbean region, and Bermuda.
The U.S. Passport Card: The passport card is only valid for re-entry into
the United States at land border crossings and sea ports-of-entry from
Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean region, and Bermuda.
WHTI-Compliant Travel Documents for U.S. citizen travel via land or sea, as
of January 31, 2008:
Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI, or FAST)
State Issued Enhanced Driver's License (when available)
Enhanced Tribal Cards (when available)
U.S. Military Identification with Military Travel Orders
U.S. Merchant Mariner Document when traveling in conjunction with official
maritime business
Native American Tribal Photo Identification Card
Form I-872 American Indian Card
What this means is that you don't have to have a passport UNLESS you have to
fly into the US from Canada because you got injured, sick or kicked off the
cruise ship. Any air travel into the US requires a Passport now.
The cruise line may have more or the same restrictions and requirements as
the US Department of State has. You need to check with the cruise line to
determine if they have more documentation requirements. After all, they are
the ones that get fined if they don't have the proper documentation for
their passengers. You just get detained. If you show up for the cruise
without the documents the cruise line requires, you will not be able to
board. Most cruise lines now have an excellent web site to show exactly
what documents they require. If in doubt after checking their site, call
them. Remember however, that if you need to fly into the US, you WILL need
a passport or you could be detained for a long period of time.
JCarnaghie
> I advise getting a passport immediately so you aren't sorry.
>
of the U.S. (or any other "home country") to have
a valid passport.
Yes, they are expensive and they take some time to
get, but they can solve many problems that can not
be adequately addressed with other forms of
documentation.
Cheers,
John in LALALand (On the Left Coast)
Warren
> There is some confusion regarding the travel documents required for cruises
> leaving a US port and returning to US port for cruises to Canada.
Why not just get a passport?
Warren
Rick Valentini
I am sailing to Canada too and was told a passport is necessary. I read
recently that there is another "passport type" document issued by the
government that will be accepted but birth certificate and photo id are
no longer acceptable.
Ed Burke
me to post the question...anyway, my friend applied for the passport cards
today for herself and her kids...thanks to all who responded.
Eddie
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Bill
This is funny, in another thread here, we have posts like this:
> A survey last year in Texas showed that, outside of Mexico, only about
> 20% of Texans had ever left the US for leisure.
And yet folks like you keep asking why people don't just go out
and spend $100 for a passport, which most will have no other use
for.
Bill
Goomba
>> A survey last year in Texas showed that, outside of Mexico, only about
>> 20% of Texans had ever left the US for leisure.
>
> And yet folks like you keep asking why people don't just go out and
> spend $100 for a passport, which most will have no other use for.
>
> Bill
Yeah, but once they get a taste of travel, how many do it again and
again.....? How're gonna keep 'em down on the farm?
John Sisker
For the short answer, a passport is required.
For the long answer, here are the details, which was borrowed from the
information obtained from a booking we just made from Vancouver to Los
Angeles. Even the reservations agent I was talking to reminded us that a
passport was required.
Passport Requirements For Your Cruise
Because passport regulations are subject to change, we encourage you to
visit www.travel.state.gov for the latest requirements and overseas
information
before you sail.
What kind of travel documents, visa or passport do I need?
The following regulations are currently in effect.
CRUISING - FOR U.S. AND CANADIAN CITIZENS:
Hawaii Cruises
Inter-island Cruising. There's no need for a passport when you sail on any
NCL America inter-island cruise. So if your ship never sails beyond the
islands of Hawaii, all you need is a government-issued photo I.D. or a valid
driver's license with a photo.
Caribbean, Bahamas, Bermuda, Alaska, Mexican Riviera, Or Canada & New
England Cruises
All guests must provide key personal information in advance of sailing.
Guests may fill out the Online Check-In form.
For sailings that end by May 31, 2009, you need a valid passport, proof of
citizenship and a valid government-issued photo I.D. (driver's license with
a photo), or any other WHTI compliant document. Proof of Citizenship
examples include: an original or state certified copy of a U.S. or Canadian
birth certificate, an original certificate of U.S. naturalization, original
certificate of U.S. citizenship, or a U.S. Consular report of your birth
broad.
Note: If you miss your ship at its scheduled U.S. departure port and need to
travel outside the U.S. to meet your ship, or should you unexpectedly need
to depart the ship from a foreign port prior to the end of sailing, a
passport would be required to leave or re-enter the U.S. by air.
As of June 1st, 2009:
For sailings that depart from and return to the same U.S. port, you need a
valid passport, proof of citizenship and a valid government-issued photo
I.D. (driver's license with a photo), or any other WHTI compliant document.
Proof of Citizenship examples include: an original or state certified copy
of a U.S. or Canadian birth certificate, certificate of U.S. naturalization,
original certificate of U.S. citizenship, or a U.S. Consular report of your
birth abroad.
For open-jaw sailings (cruises that depart from one U.S. port and return to
a different U.S. port), you are required to carry a valid passport, U.S.
passport card or Enhanced Drivers License, as well as have in your
possession all relative visas that pertain to your travel itinerary.
Permanent residents of the U.S. are required to carry their valid ARC cards
for boarding AND passport from their country of citizenship, if available.
Note: If you miss your ship at its scheduled U.S. departure port and need to
travel outside the U.S. to meet your ship, or should you unexpectedly need
to depart the ship from a foreign port prior to the end of sailing, a
passport would be required to leave or re-enter the U.S. by air. To that
end, NCL strongly recommends all guests to obtain a passport for their
voyage on any NCL vessel.
Europe and South America Cruises
A valid passport is required and in some cases, a tourist visa is also
required.
AIR TRAVEL - FOR U.S. AND CANADIAN CITIZENS:
For all air travel into the U.S. from Canada or any other international
location, you'll need a valid passport.
AIR AND CRUISE TRAVEL - FOR ALL CITIZENS OTHER THAN U.S. OR CANADIAN:
All guests must carry a valid passport, and if necessary, a multiple entry
visa is required for entry into the United States (i.e. B-2 Visitors Visa),
or a visa waiver. Please be sure to check with the proper agencies and
authorities (such as your local immigration office) before you sail because
we can't board you without the proper documents. Travelers from the 34 Visa
Waiver Program (VWP) countries must have a machine-readable passport to
enter the U.S. without a visa. Also, effective January 12th, 2009, all VWP
travelers will be required to obtain an electronic travel authorization
prior to boarding a carrier to travel by air or sea to the U.S. under the
VWP.
Happy sailing...
John Sisker - SHIP-TO-SHORE CRUISE AGENCY�
(714) 536-3850 or toll-free at (800) 724-6644 & (Agency ID: 714.536.3850)
www.shiptoshorecruise.com
Ray Goldenberg
<jsi...@sprynet.com> wrote:
>For the short answer, a passport is required.
Hi Everyone,
John has given incorrect information in his answer. As a matter of
clarification although it is recommended that an US citizen have a
passport, it is not required if the passenger is doing a round trip
from the same U.S. city such as the original poster stated from
Seattle returning to Seattle. Cruises leaving Seattle that return to
Seattle are considered "closed loop cruises". If a passenger were to
have to leave the cruise early and fly back to the US, then a passport
would be required but not if he just traveled to/from the same US city
by cruise ship. He would still be required to have the government
issued photo ID and certified copy of their birth certificate.
Here is a quote from the U.S. State Department's web site. I
capitalized the part regarding closed loop cruises.
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1082.html
All Americans traveling by air outside of the United States are
required to present a passport or other valid travel document to enter
the United States. This requirement will be extended to sea travel
(EXCEPT CLOSED-LOOP CRUISES)
Various cruise lines word this "closed-loop cruises:" exception in
various ways. Here is how NCL words it:
As of June 1st, 2009:
"For sailings that depart from and return to the same U.S. port, you
need a valid passport or proof of citizenship and a valid
government-issued photo I.D. (driver's license with a photo), or any
other WHTI compliant document. Proof of Citizenship examples include:
an original or state certified copy of a U.S. or Canadian birth
certificate, certificate of U.S. naturalization, original certificate
of U.S. citizenship, or a U.S. Consular report of your birth abroad.
For open-jaw sailings (cruises that depart from one U.S. port and
return to a different U.S. port), you are required to carry a valid
passport, U.S. passport card or Enhanced Drivers License, as well as
have in your possession all relative visas that pertain to your travel
itinerary. Permanent residents of the U.S. are required to carry their
valid ARC cards for boarding AND passport from their country of
citizenship, if available.
Note: If you miss your ship at its scheduled U.S. departure port and
need to travel outside the U.S. to meet your ship, or should you
unexpectedly need to depart the ship from a foreign port prior to the
end of sailing, a passport would be required to leave or re-enter the
U.S. by air. To that end, NCL strongly recommends all guests to obtain
a passport for their voyage on any NCL vessel."
Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com
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John Sisker
giving poor information on a technically is not always the best advice. On a
cruise we just booked from Vancouver to Los Angeles, including one-way air
to Vancouver, even the cruise line said a passport is required. While a
cruise from a U.S. Port back to the U.S. Port, even via Canada, does not
technically require a passport per se. However, proof of citizenship
(certified copy of birth certificate) and a valid government issued photo id
are still required. There are so many variables and things that could go
wrong; our advice to our clients is to anyway carry a passport anyway. Why
take changes on a simple technically. That would be like driving into Mexico
without the proper car insurance, hoping you don't have an accident.
Be wise and be safe.
Charles
<r...@lighthousetravel.com> wrote:
> John has given incorrect information in his answer.
Not a surprise. Sisker the pretend travel agent has made a habit of
giving out incorrect info. If he actually has any clients I feel sorry
for them. Probably he only sells to himself or relatives who feel sorry
for him.
Thank you for posting the correct info Ray. Congratulations on the new
grandchild.
--
Charles
John Sisker
nothing more.
D Ball
are okay. We got a hint of the fire scare you suffered--please let us
know how things turned out.
Diana Ball
Austin, TX
D Ball
Love it, Goomba! That's the spirit!
Diana Ball
Austin, TX <--- While Austin is full of travelers, 'tis true, there
are a lot of Texans who are content to stay on the farm.
Dillon Pyron
Beat me to the punchline.
How can one buy a ticket on Monday and leave for Australia the
following Sunday without a passport?
--
- dillon I am not invalid
The RMS Titanic sank on April 15th. US income taxes
are due on April 15th. Coincidence? I think not.
Ray Goldenberg
Hi Diana,
We very much enjoyed our trips to London and river cruise in Holland
and Belgium. I think the entire group was blown away by the beauty
and history of the region. I know I was and the wonderful food was
not to be missed. Can you say Belgium waffles with strawberries and
chocolate? <:+) The Tulips at the Keukenhof Gardens were spectacular
this year.
http://www.keukenhof.nl/index/en/
The AMA Waterways River Cruise was 2nd to none.
http://www.amawaterways.com/itinerary.asp?iticode=AA09
I did not hear one complaint from the group. It is always fun to be
with a group with no complaints. <g> London could have cooperated with
better weather but London is always London, a great place rain or
shine.
We did have to evacuate some relatives due to the fire but they all
are safe and back in their homes now. The fire did not get any closer
than about 6-miles to our home but unfortunately we have friends who
were not so fortunate and did lose their homes. We are doing all we
can to assist them.
D Ball
> On Sun, 10 May 2009 20:01:08 -0700 (PDT), D Ball
>
> >Ray, welcome back! I hope your travels were good, but more, I hope you
> >are okay. We got a hint of the fire scare you suffered--please let us
> >know how things turned out.
>
> >Diana Ball
> >Austin, TX
>
> Hi Diana,
>
> We very much enjoyed our trips to London and river cruise in Holland
> and Belgium. I think the entire group was blown away by the beauty
> and history of the region. I know I was and the wonderful food was
> not to be missed. Can you say Belgium waffles with strawberries and
> chocolate? <:+) The Tulips at the Keukenhof Gardens were spectacular
> The AMA Waterways River Cruise was 2nd to none.http://www.amawaterways.com/itinerary.asp?iticode=AA09
> I did not hear one complaint from the group. It is always fun to be
> with a group with no complaints. <g> London could have cooperated with
> better weather but London is always London, a great place rain or
> shine.
> We did have to evacuate some relatives due to the fire but they all
> are safe and back in their homes now. The fire did not get any closer
> than about 6-miles to our home but unfortunately we have friends who
> were not so fortunate and did lose their homes. We are doing all we
> can to assist them.
>
> Best regards,
> Ray
> LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
> 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905http://www.lighthousetravel.com
> --
Ray,
I am glad you and your relatives escaped damage, but am so sorry for
your friends' losses. That is tragic. I think natural disaster is one
of those things we never think will happen to us.
I hope you'll put together some form of trip report! The European
river cruises sound wonderful to me--it would be interesting to read
about AMA Waterways. I love the Netherlands, but have never made it
over at the height of tulip season--lucky you!
Diana
Susette
> On Sun, 10 May 2009 20:01:08 -0700 (PDT), D Ball
>
> >Ray, welcome back! I hope your travels were good, but more, I hope you
> >are okay. We got a hint of the fire scare you suffered--please let us
> >know how things turned out.
>
> >Diana Ball
> >Austin, TX
>
> Hi Diana,
>
> We very much enjoyed our trips to London and river cruise in Holland
> and Belgium. �I think the entire group was blown away by the beauty
> and history of the region. �I know I was and the wonderful food was
> not to be missed. �Can you say Belgium waffles with strawberries and
> chocolate? <:+) �The Tulips at the Keukenhof Gardens were spectacular
> The AMA Waterways River Cruise was 2nd to none.http://www.amawaterways.com/itinerary.asp?iticode=AA09
> I did not hear one complaint from the group. �It is always fun to be
> with a group with no complaints. <g> London could have cooperated with
> better weather but London is always London, a great place rain or
> shine.
> We did have to evacuate some relatives due to the fire but they all
> are safe and back in their homes now. �The fire did not get any closer
> than about 6-miles to our home but unfortunately we have friends who
> were not so fortunate and did lose their homes. �We are doing all we
> can to assist them.
>
> Best regards,
> Ray
> LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
> 800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905http://www.lighthousetravel.com
> --
Very sorry to hear about your friends...
I have a client in NC that was touch and go with the Fires down there
it came 1/4 mile to his home he kept sprinkling his house he said
the smoke made it so you could not see at all.
I have been hearing alot of GREAT things from AMA waterways glad to
hear you confirm that