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SUN VISTA ... Sabotaged?

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Special Investigations

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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I heard yesterday that the sinking of the above vessel off
Penang, could have been as a result of the deliberate actions of
the crew.

Suggestions have been made that after the fire had been
deliberately started, the bilges were opened resulting in the
sinking of the vessel.

What doesn't add up was the fact that following a fire, a ship
does not usually sink. So why one would wonder did this happen to
Sun Vista.

Can anyone shed any light on this matter?

Special Investigations


Andie

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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Apparently, it capsized and then sank, stern first. Could it be possible
that the fire caused the ship to become unbalanced? I do agree though,
based on the Discovery channel documentaries, that most ships don't sink
just because of a fire onboard.

Ernest Jones

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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The only way she would sink is if she took on a vast tonnage of water!
More than you would think could have come from ships fire pumps! At the
time the ship was abandoned there was no sign of a list! Ineed were the
bilges opened?

Ernest Jones
Retired Music & Cruise Crazy Brit.
On Sunny Isles Beach
Life is an Opera


peter

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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I think you will find that many, if not most, ships that catch fire and are
burned out at sea, do indeed sink. Some alongside turn over as well, and
would obviously sink if the water was deep enough. Water from firefighting
can accumulate on upper decks and seriously affect stability, and of course
is cumulative, the more you fight the fire the worse the stability. Italian,
and for that matter French, passenger ships were always known for being a
bit short on the stability side, in other words you just had to be careful.
So no I doubt any stories of sabotage.

Richard and Owen Whitlock

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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Wasn't this the old Meridian ? Celebrity?

Go2judy

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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I was a passenger on the Golden Princess from San Francisco to Alaska, July
1997.
On the third morning enroute to Victoria there was a fire in the Engine
Room.
The ship was tilted and we were told that this was due to the water used to put
out the fire. We lost all power and electricity abord. We remained in our
stations ready to get into boats if necessary. Since we were along Washinton
coast- many vessels came to our aid, includding the US Coast Guard very
quickly..
We had to wait for engineers to arrive and ascertain the safety of the
ship. This took some time, but fortunaftely, the ship was safe enough and we
were towed to Vicortia.
I therefore believe that if enough water has flooded a particular compartment
of a ship, and the crew are unable to pump it out, the ship can capsize and
eventually sink.
The entire Princess Crew did all to help and ensure our safety. I never
felt that my life was in danger. After this experience, I feel safer,but I do
take the life boat drills very seriously.
I now always note that when traveling to Bermuda or the caribbean, there are
vessels very close by. ex. Norweigian Crown is near Celebrity Zenith going to
Bermuda..
Judy--GottaGo Cruises

CruiseAZ

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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You said:

<< What doesn't add up was the fact that following a fire, a ship
does not usually sink. So why one would wonder did this happen to
Sun Vista. >>

The Achille Lauro, another ex-Italian sank after she burned, as did the
Angelina Lauro and the Antilles, just to name three.


Kevin Griffin
The Cruise People Ltd, London
<http://members.aol.com/CruiseAZ/home.htm>
Isn't it High Time you were on the High Seas?

CruiseAZ

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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You said:

<< Suggestions have been made that after the fire had been
deliberately started, the bilges were opened resulting in the
sinking of the vessel. >>

The master of thsi ship was a Swede - do the Swedes strike you as swindlers?

Tom Gauldin

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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CruiseAZ <crui...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19990522114336...@ng-fa1.aol.com...

> You said:
>
> << Suggestions have been made that after the fire had been
> deliberately started, the bilges were opened resulting in the
> sinking of the vessel. >>
>
> The master of thsi ship was a Swede - do the Swedes strike you as
swindlers?
>
Perhaps you could suggest a nationality that DOES strike folks as
being swindlers. <grin>
(This could be fun).

Tom

Ray Goldenberg

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 14:08:04 -0400, "Tom Gauldin"
<scou...@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Perhaps you could suggest a nationality that DOES strike folks as
>being swindlers. <grin>
>(This could be fun).

Hi Tom,

Texan? <vbg>

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

Cal Ford

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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Ray Goldenberg wrote:
>
> <scou...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >Perhaps you could suggest a nationality that DOES strike folks as
> >being swindlers. <grin>
> >(This could be fun).
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Texan? <vbg>
>
> Best regards,
> Ray

Let us not forget Ray, "Texan" was once a Nationality but gave it up. I
guess they couldn't stand the thought of Oklahoma being a state and them
not...... ;-)

Cal Ford
Lido Deck Cruises


Cal Ford

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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Tom Gauldin wrote:
>
> >
> Perhaps you could suggest a nationality that DOES strike folks as
> being swindlers. <grin>
> (This could be fun).

Not too sure about "Suspicious Nationalities" but I would look sideways
at anyone that would pour Vinegar on otherwise perfectly good meat.....
;-)

Cal Ford
Lido Deck Cruises

Lover of "Santa Maria Tri-Tips"

TexGal

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May 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/22/99
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Ray Goldenberg wrote in message <3746fd40...@news.newsguy.com>...

>On Sat, 22 May 1999 14:08:04 -0400, "Tom Gauldin"
><scou...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>Perhaps you could suggest a nationality that DOES strike folks as
>>being swindlers. <grin>
>>(This could be fun).
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Texan? <vbg>
>
>Best regards,
>Ray
>LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
>800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
>http://www.lighthousetravel.com
>
>
HEY!! I resemble that remark!

Donna, a Texas lurker

Ray Goldenberg

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May 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/23/99
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 22:06:58 -0500, "TexGal" <tid...@pdq.net> wrote:

>Donna, a Texas lurker

Hi Donna,

Do not get upset. As most of my friends here on r.t.c know, I am a
Texan from by boots to my hat. Those that have spoke to me on the
phone or in person REALLY know it. <;+)

Bill Williford

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May 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/23/99
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That explains a lot Ray! hehehehe

r...@lighthousetravel.com (Ray Goldenberg) wrote:

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jzydek

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May 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/23/99
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So THAT'S where that "twaing" in your speech comes from!!!

I didn't want to say anything, but "ya didn't taaaakk right like us yankees
do, Reay!"

June

Ray Goldenberg > Do not get upset. As most of my friends here on r.t.c

Ray Goldenberg

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May 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/23/99
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 18:27:13 -0400, "jzydek" <jzy...@prodigy.net>
wrote:

>So THAT'S where that "twaing" in your speech comes from!!!
>
>I didn't want to say anything, but "ya didn't taaaakk right like us yankees
>do, Reay!"

On Sun, 23 May 1999 18:27:13 -0400, in rec.travel.cruises you wrote:

>So THAT'S where that "twaing" in your speech comes from!!!
>
>I didn't want to say anything, but "ya didn't taaaakk right like us yankees
>do, Reay!"

Hi June,

Yup! lol

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL

Ray Goldenberg

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May 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/23/99
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On Sun, 23 May 1999 22:12:24 GMT, oosikNO...@pobox.com (Bill
Williford) wrote:

>That explains a lot Ray! hehehehe

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the compliment! <;=)

setec...@gmail.com

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Feb 11, 2018, 12:26:43 PM2/11/18
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On Saturday, May 22, 1999 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Special Investigations wrote:
> I heard yesterday that the sinking of the above vessel off
> Penang, could have been as a result of the deliberate actions of
> the crew.
>
> Suggestions have been made that after the fire had been
> deliberately started, the bilges were opened resulting in the
> sinking of the vessel.
>
> What doesn't add up was the fact that following a fire, a ship
> does not usually sink. So why one would wonder did this happen to
> Sun Vista.
>
> Can anyone shed any light on this matter?
>
> Special Investigations

It sank due to the accumulation of water used to fight the fire.

The Captain

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Feb 12, 2018, 8:34:28 AM2/12/18
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The Captain

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Feb 12, 2018, 8:36:05 AM2/12/18
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On the afternoon of May 20, 1999 the Luxury Cruise Ship the Sun Vista was returning to Singapore after a typical cruise to Phuket, Thailand when a malfunction in the engine room switchboard started a small fire. Due to factors yet explained, the fire could not be contained and spread throughout the ship. A distress call was finally sent about 6:30 PM. Meanwhile, the passengers were instructed to go up on deck and prepare to abandon ship. All 472 passengers and 672 crew managed to leave the ship. The Sun Vista slowly sank deeper and deeper by the stern for seven hours. Finally at 1:22 AM May 21, 1999 she died and sank about 60 nautical miles south of Penang Island and 50 nautical miles west of Port Weld in the Strait of Malacca in 200 feet of water. A passing freighter finally rescued the passengers after spending five to eight hours in the lifeboats. There were no fatalities and only minor injuries.

http://www.sunvista.ukf.net/sunvista.htm

She now lays on her port side in the middle of a busy shipping lane in around 70m of water subjected to bad visibility and strong currents

The Captain

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Feb 12, 2018, 8:37:09 AM2/12/18
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